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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy did Jill Stein wait till one day before the Monday deadline
to announce that she needed about 30,000 volunteers to sign and get notarized affidavits for the Pennsylvania recount?
So she only got about 100 precincts covered -- out of 9600.
That's the recount we're going to get in PA, folks. And she's just now mentioning it on her website -- that the recount in PA will be limited (though much more limited than she's openly admitting.)
The new language on her website today:
*We are supporting a voter-initiated recount in PA, in election districts where at least three voters in each precinct file affidavits with their County Board of Elections within the specified time frame.
JHan
(10,173 posts)clueless is her middle name.
- I should really behave.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)in PA with her "support" of the voter-initiated campaign, so she's hoping to end up with a big chunk of the funds raised for her "voter integrity" efforts -- which has always been part of the Green Party's work.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Pretty poor "money making" move, that.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Nice work if you can get it.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Likely to be in the red if any PA recount takes hold.
Oddly enough, you all are missing the main benefit, access to 130,000 new small donors.
That's what Dems really should have prevented her getting.
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)volunteers for the all important affidavits.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)And that she shelled out $3.5M to Wisconsin today?
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/elections/index.ssf/2016/11/6_things_to_know_about_pennsyl.html
Will you be disappointed when she files in MI tomorrow?
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)From the article: "Under this provision, the petitioner must make legitimate claims of fraud or illegality that would definitely change the outcome, said Lawrence Tabas, the Republican Party's election law specialist."
How will Stein prove "legitimate claims of fraud or illegality" to the judge?
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...on exactly what she said she would.
PA's system was designed to prevent a recount. I'm not going to fault Stein if their design works.
Yes, she doesn't have the resources or contacts to get 30,000 PA voters to send notarized affidavits in less than a week. Do you fault her for that, or do you fault the party who has those resources (and more) and yet said, "fuck it, we'll take a pass on election integrity"?
Or are you just angry that the Green Party has finally managed to be somewhat relevant? If so, I strongly argue that you have the Dems (once again) to blame for that. They left the door wide open, she just walked through.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)and then limiting the number of precincts EVEN MORE by waiting till the last minute to ask for volunteers for the affidavits. She should have been collecting affidavits from the very beginning, at the same time as she was collecting money.
A lot of people gave money hoping that these recounts could flip the election. With the PA being so limited, this is even more unlikely to happen. It won't matter if WI and MI flip if PA doesn't.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)It was designed to be impossible.
Her backup, attainable strategy to file a lawsuit and target crucial precincts seems pretty strong to me.
Damn, were you this tough on the Dems's Election Day ground game?
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)prepare for James Comey's two letter bombs launched into the final eleven days.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)PA apparently, by law, has to give Trump a chance to protest the hearing before it can occur.
The law. What a PITA.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Let's keep our brains intact and give this a chance.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)My sentiments exactly. I don't see how one can feel otherwise and still claim to support little d democracy.
Though it's touching so many here are concerned whether others will get their money's worth.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)For recounts in the various states for which she was soliciting recount money. It's called making it up as you go along.