Hillary & Democrats Lost Because We Have Too Many Racist, Bigoted, POS In The Country.

[TheMastersNemesis]

Educated or not we have too many Americans who have the mentality and disposition of GOP three green teeth hill billies who voted for Trump. Unless you are crazy and demented by rage you would vote for Hillary and democrats. The problem is these miserable excuses for the human species want every one else to be a miserable as they are. You can even have a college degree and be even quite bright yet think like a hill billie. Just think of all the college Republicans. they should not be allowed to procreate. If voted for Trump you are a racist. Forget all those damned excuses.

No way was Trump anywhere near qualified for anything like the presidency. The fault is in the voters and dumb ignorant electorate. So we have now picked the worst person in the world for the presidency.

[Horse with no Name]

1. But the majority voted for Clinton

by a fucking landslide.
That is the ONLY mandate of this election.
The GOP has learned how to masterfully cut and cull votes in "just the right places" so that they can win with a minority of votes.
I think that until we are able to undo that....we will never win another election and I don't think enough attention is being paid to that.

[TheMastersNemesis]

12. Sadly You Are Right About That. The Vote Should Have Been Too Lopsided To Shave.

[HassleCat]

2. All rightee then

We may as well give up. The people you describe would never vote for us or what we represent.

[PoliticAverse]

3. You know Obama got more votes than Clinton, right? n/t

[brush]

4. That's not so. With votes still being couted in Cali, Clinton is very near to Obama's 2012 tally

[PoliticAverse]

10. But still several million behind his 2008 tally. n/t

[bigtree]

5. voting restrictions cut off much of the counter vote to all of that

...before any ballot was even cast.

[aikoaiko]

6. In part, but there aren't any more of them than during Obama's, WJC's, Carter's, or JFK's time.

Arguably, the percentage of racists is much smaller now than before.

[world wide wally]

7. Let's not underrate Comey and the Russians roles too much

But I do agree with you about the voters

[Dems to Win]

8. Fire the Voters!

Democratic leaders near-unanimously assured us that Hillary was the strongest possible nominee for 2016.

She lost to Donald Trump.

Maybe we need new leaders in the Democratic Party.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/rust-belt-democrats-saw-trump-wave-coming

These Rust Belt Democrats Saw the Trump Wave Coming
And they tried to warn the Clinton campaign.

[Dems to Win]

9. Write "They're All Racists!" on a blanket and cry yourself to sleep in it

"three green teeth hill billies"????

Democrats DESERVE to lose with attitudes like that.

Democrats won't win until they understand how bad trade deals and uncontrolled immigration hurt native born blue collar workers. They can see it, they can feel it. They have the right to VOTE, no matter what names you call them.


I made this post on another board on Sept 30, after the first debate:

The Democrats seem surprised that the 2016 election has now turned into a referendum on NAFTA, after they nominated the wife of the man who signed NAFTA's implementing legislation. I'm surprised that they are surprised.

If we elect a demagogue in 2016 it will be in large part as a backlash against NAFTA. It will be quite a direct belated rejection of the Clinton Administration, who invested so much political capital into passing NAFTA.

The worst moment for Hillary in the debate, and the best issue for Trump, was her curt dismissal of the manufacturing job losses and devastation of factory towns across the USA as "That's your opinion."

They don't call it the Rust Belt because manufacturing is booming.

NAFTA also hurt Mexican corn farmers, and sent a wave of undocumented immigrants to America. Decades later, they are still here, and their children have grown up to be Dreamers.

When one out of 20 workers in the US are exploitable, hardworking, very low wage illegal immigrants, it depresses wages for the entire working class.

Working class Americans feel a double hit from NAFTA: so many manufacturing jobs have been shipped south to Mexico, and the remaining hard jobs in the US are filled with low paid undocumented immigrants instead of native born Americans making a living wage, as it was 30 years ago.

Say what you will about Trump: he's at least noticed these people and their hardships. More than we can say about the Clinton Democrats.

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Don't believe me? How about a union leader and Democratic activist in Ohio:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/rust-belt-democrats-saw-trump-wave-coming

These Rust Belt Democrats Saw the Trump Wave Coming
And they tried to warn the Clinton campaign.

PEMA LEVYNOV. 11, 2016 3:32 PM


Like labor unions everywhere, the local Plumbers & Pipefitters union in Ohio's Mahoning Valley—a historically Democratic bastion due to the influence of labor—endorsed Hillary Clinton for president in September 2015 and urged its members to vote for her. But unlike in years past, when Roland "Butch" Taylor briefed about 200 members on the union's support of Clinton and the prospective benefits of a Clinton presidency in May, the meeting didn't go well. "I got a lot of boos," he recalls. "I got a lot of chatter back. And out of the group, only one person came up and asked me for a T-shirt."

snip...

Like Betras, Taylor doesn't believe his peers and neighbors who supported Trump are racist. But he understands how Trump's talk about immigration appealed to people in the Rust Belt. A few years ago, his union was working on a billion-dollar natural gas processing plant, and the workers noticed that the bulk of the work was being done by Spanish-speaking laborers who arrived each morning on buses. "It brought a lot of resentment to the area because they'd never seen it before," Taylor says. "People see that and then they go tell everybody else, and social media, the way it is, it just runs wild." He believes Trump benefited when the community saw immigrants "taking jobs that Americans think they should be doing."

[Kathy M]

11. Thank You for post and article ........

Post and article well worth reading . Article Describes my county almost to a T which went for Trump ... County has voted democratic for the last 40 plus years prior to 2016 .