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dhol82

(9,353 posts)
3. Saw some of the pix from the site
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:53 PM
Dec 2016

The electrical wiring was awful! Bare wires out in the open.
No sprinklers, bad egress. Windows welded shut. Just a god-awful situation.

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renegade000

(2,301 posts)
5. That's assuming an even-distribution of the deceased.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:57 PM
Dec 2016

Unfortunately, the death toll is likely to rise, but I would guess (and certainly hope) that it's not going to be >100. Reading about previous fires in crowded facilities, the dead usually are concentrated in groups near the exits where the mass of people gets jammed . Given that those are also the ingress points, that 35% probably covered much of the high fatality areas...

At least that's what I hope...

RandySF

(58,823 posts)
6. Well, FD is finding bodies in every room.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:59 PM
Dec 2016

Not only was there a party, but the owner and/or manager were illegal renting out living space.

RandySF

(58,823 posts)
13. Oakland PD just now.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:20 PM
Dec 2016

"We don't know how many people were in the building. We don't know how many people got out of the building."

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. No one official has said any such thing.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 08:13 AM
Dec 2016

No doubt the count will climb, but no official has speculated about the final toll.

RandySF

(58,823 posts)
11. Looks like fire was on 2nd floor
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:15 PM
Dec 2016

Stairs made of wooden pallets. No emergency exits. Windows welded shut. Lots of paint.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
14. Your thread title implies that KTVU is reporting that the death toll
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:21 PM
Dec 2016

is expected to rise above 100. That's not the case as far as I can find***. It comes across as very misleading. This was a terrible tragedy. There is no reason to sensationalize it further like this.

***If they are claiming that any official has said this, please post a link

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. Yeah, their website says that "as many as 100 attended the party."
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:15 PM
Dec 2016

Nothing about over 100 expected to be found dead.

Good lord, 33 is bad enough, and many still missing.

Tragic.

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