More Clear Every Day Election Was Stolen. Statistical Impossibility To Win Where Clinton Led.

[TheMastersNemesis]

Even if you are not a mathematician or statistician it is clear that the GOP stole the election. They had four years to prepare the landscape. No matter how you look at the results you can only come up with that conclusion. So we have coup and not an election.

[saltpoint]

1. Unwilling to let the GOP off the hook

for election tampering, but would need hard evidence to assert theft.

[HassleCat]

2. Yes, actually evidence would be good.

I believe they cheated, but it's just a feeling.

[DetlefK]

5. If you add up many small factors, conclusive evidence becomes next to impossible:

- partisan gerrymandering in favor of the GOP
- oppressing the black and poor vote via doing away with polling-places and via voter-ID
- Comey
- fake news bashing Clinton, e.g. you will find plenty news on RT praising Trump and the only news about Clinton are trashing her and calling her corrupt
- shenanigans with vote-counting
- The obsession of the media that there must be some kind of Clinton-scandal, something, anything, no matter the actual evidence.

Individually, each of those has a negligible effect. Even if you can prove one of those, it still wouldn't change the outcome at large. But if you add up enough of these "irregularities", you can flip an election.

[Bear Creek]

15. Count the ballots by hand

[world wide wally]

3. Sadly, we have to admit that the Comey stunt was pure genius.

None of us saw this coming.

[etherealtruth]

4. It sure was ... SMH

[aikoaiko]

7. Yes, but there were people who said Huma needed to rid herself of The Weiner

Because he would drag her down professionally.

[world wide wally]

9. She did

[aikoaiko]

10. arguably too late.

if she dumped him in 2011, there might not have been anything transferred between Human and The Weiner's laptops.

[world wide wally]

12. It was all bullshit anyway...20/20 hindsight on our part

Comey is the only one that knew it was coming

[elias7]

13. Not genius. Evil. And against codes of conduct.

It is not genius to break the rules, rather it is the Republican way because they have no moral or ethical standards.

[jmg257]

6. Can you be a bit more specific?

[hueymahl]

8. I have heard several folks make this assertion, but have not seen any evidence to back it up

Best I have seen (and it was pretty easy to refute) was the claim that exit polls did not match up with results. One of the problems there was that it was not really an exit poll the were referencing. It was a survey of early voters and absentee voters, which have huge issues with reliability (at least as compared to true exit polling).

So, respectfully, do you have any real evidence to support this claim?

[ksoze]

11. Just because they don't believe in facts, doesn't mean we shouldn't

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and there are no facts of election fraud. Plus its counterproductive.

[Sunriser13]

14. Just 'cause you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

I sincerely wish we could find enough evidence solid enough to force the powers that be to redo the whole damn thing, with international poll watchers, if they'd do it, in addition to the American ones, watching at every single polling place in the country.

I do sincerely believe that everything in the spectrum was done, legal and otherwise, to win this election at all cost.

The perpetrators of this fraud must be exposed, held up as examples of the widespread corruption of our system, and prosecuted to the fullest. Then we need to repair the existing system to ensure nothing like this can ever happen again.



This is the United States of America. We are supposed to be better than this.

[mythology]

16. Which you somehow neglected to cite