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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:39 AM Dec 2016

Chris Hayes to hold Town Hall with Bernie Sanders in Wisconsin

Last edited Sat Dec 10, 2016, 07:20 PM - Edit history (2)

All In w/Chris Hayes
@allinwithchris

Special programming note: @chrislhayes hosts a town hall with @BernieSanders in Kenosha, Wisconsin on Monday! #inners



Monday Dec 12 at 8PM



Bernie Sanders heading to Kenosha Monday
Kenosha News
DANIEL GAITAN

The progressive leader and former Democratic presidential candidate is expected to talk about trade policy, automotive plant closings, the election and President-elect Donald Trump at UAW Local 72, 3615 Washington Road.

State. Rep. Tod Ohnstad, D-Kenosha, helped organize the event, which will take place at 2 or 3 p.m. and air Monday night on MSNBC. It will include a panel discussion with retired auto workers, union representatives and mechanics. Audience members will have the opportunity to ask Sanders questions.



Bernie Sanders to appear in Kenosha
The Times Journal

Sanders, who sought the Democratic Party nomination for president this year, will be at United Auto Workers Local 72, 3615 Washington Ave., at about 2 p.m. Monday for a town hall meeting with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes. The program will air at 7 p.m. Monday.

Sanders also visited Kenosha during the presidential primary campaign, making a March 30 speech at Carthage College. He won the Wisconsin primary over eventual Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton with about 57 percent of the vote.



Registration required for Sanders Kenosha event
DANIEL GAITAN
Kenosha News

The former Democratic presidential candidate is expected to talk about trade policy, automotive plant closings, the election and President-elect Donald Trump at UAW Local 72, 3615 Washington Road.

Doors open at noon — the taping begins at 2 p.m. sharp.

People hoping to attend must RSVP by 5 p.m. Saturday at chrishayestownhall@gmail.com. Space is limited. The program will air at 7 p.m. on MSNBC that night.

The event will include a panel discussion with retired auto workers, union representatives and mechanics. Audience members will also have the opportunity to ask Sanders questions.

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Chris Hayes to hold Town Hall with Bernie Sanders in Wisconsin (Original Post) portlander23 Dec 2016 OP
I'm very interested in what these folks have to say. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #1
I'm interesting in knowing why Sanders is in Wisconsin instead of Washington. George II Dec 2016 #54
Sanders is the new Outreach Chair for the Democrats. You'll see & hear of him being all over the think Dec 2016 #58
Thankfully, Bernie is demonstrating the leadership we need in this country. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #86
"Leadership" by being in Wisconsin hawking his book instead of legislating in Washington? George II Dec 2016 #104
Outreach is part of his job. Embrace it. Division is counterproductive. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #112
"Outreach" is inappropriate when the Senate is in session. George II Dec 2016 #121
That attitude is why Republicans control a record number of statehouses and executive mansions. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #140
Not by sitting legislators when the houses are in session. After tomorrow (or later today maybe)... George II Dec 2016 #142
LOL. Sure. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #144
He is in Washington. Today he joined striking low-wage Federal workers, along with Keith Ellison. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #68
Bernie is the man... showing why we should have nominated him in the first place! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #87
Agreed! But he was such a long shot... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #92
To me, Bernie is the ANTI-tRump. He spoke to the GOOD in people... and that's why his progressive message resonated with so many. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #100
We should have nominated the candidate the the people chose - and we did. George II Dec 2016 #105
The Senate WAS in session today (December 12) and will reconvene tomorrow at 8:30 AM George II Dec 2016 #131
That's nice. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #138
............well... uh.......... pangaia Dec 2016 #80
I am interested why Russ Feingold lost, and why they keep electing Scott Walker still_one Dec 2016 #2
Shush now. Don't bring reality to this discussion. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #4
A town hall? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #3
Selling a book and something about making the Dems care about people because apparently we dont. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #5
Selling a book.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #6
Can't blame him for trying to make a buck elmac Dec 2016 #12
... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #13
How do you know? I have not seen his taxes. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #41
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #64
+ whatever SMC22307 Dec 2016 #69
+1 mountain grammy Dec 2016 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #21
He and Jane have their own thing going ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #37
Hillary sells books and fights for the little people, no? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #70
Link? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #82
Upthread. Bernie, Keith Ellison and Danny Glover. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #85
BS is on a book tour, not in the Senate. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #122
No. Like any woman... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #141
Yes, and Sanders made a big flourish about "marching" with Verizon union workers.... George II Dec 2016 #123
Yes, you thought correctly! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #89
It's called multitasking. NWCorona Dec 2016 #107
Multitasking? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #124
Yes. You can "hawk" a book and still do progressive work for the people. NWCorona Dec 2016 #125
Interesting... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #126
That is definitely possible but I'm not the press and I have no desire to harm Hillary NWCorona Dec 2016 #127
Glad you will fight along side. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #128
Yes I agree. NWCorona Dec 2016 #129
I may have been able to come up with an answer before trump sheshe2 Dec 2016 #130
Thanks sheshe2 Dec 2016 #133
Don't use a double standard against women... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #132
It is a double standard. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #134
What? The non-existent media narrative you invented as an example? TCJ70 Dec 2016 #135
Soon I hope!... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #88
Why is he not in the Senate doing his job? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #7
I believe Congress will be in recess next week. nt No Vested Interest Dec 2016 #17
According to the Senate calendar, they aren't supposed to adjourn until December 16: George II Dec 2016 #65
Thank you George! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #72
Perhaps you haven't heard that Sanders is the Outreach Chair. think Dec 2016 #101
Some here so aren't trying to hear that! I think it's a perfect position NWCorona Dec 2016 #108
You might as well save your breath Amaril Dec 2016 #114
Correct, Bernie's working his ass off, not only for his constituents, but for ALL Americans!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #22
According to the Senate website, they're in session all of this week and next week! George II Dec 2016 #66
Ha! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #83
Did you miss the news yesterday? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #71
Yuuuuuuge! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #84
Medicare not being able to negotiate prices with pharmaceutical companies is huge. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #93
Correct. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #96
The battle begins in January. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #97
January???? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Dec 2016 #115
Now that is real leadership! Go Bernie is right! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #91
Have you ever listened to Mozart? pangaia Dec 2016 #81
Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders duo will lead liberals in the Senate. elleng Dec 2016 #8
Hmmmm sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9
Dec. 6-Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) proposed an amendment Tuesday to lower the cost of prescription elleng Dec 2016 #10
K sheshe2 Dec 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #28
It's only a big tent when it comes to non-progressives. alarimer Dec 2016 #35
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #34
So this is his excuse for failing to deliver after R B Garr Dec 2016 #16
Yup................. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #19
Really? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #42
Typical Sanders - proposed an AMENDMENT to a bill. "you lead, I'll follow".... George II Dec 2016 #63
selling books? ascribing monetary motivations to stuff like that is what certainot Dec 2016 #14
Hmmmm sheshe2 Dec 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #24
so liberals and dems let a few hundred think tank-scripted certainot Dec 2016 #48
Good point. Al Gore's crusade against climate change being a prime example. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #75
Even if he was you would still find something to criticize him on JonLP24 Dec 2016 #102
Wait.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #25
Where he gave the same answer to every question. LisaM Dec 2016 #40
Thom Hartmann's show is a quasi-national radio show/podcast, whereas WDEV is the local... George II Dec 2016 #62
THANKS for the info ... I want to be sure to see this Raine Dec 2016 #20
Holding town halls in "Trump Country" is something we should do more of. democrank Dec 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #29
I agree. demmiblue Dec 2016 #30
That depends on what is said... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #45
Agree. Doesn't seem to be a whole lot of listening going on... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #79
The never Bernie crowd are just bent out of shape because he still has a vooce NWCorona Dec 2016 #111
Yep. He's formed alliances with Ellison, Warren, et al... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #113
But those people out in the sticks are icky!!! QC Dec 2016 #117
Nice.. vi5 Dec 2016 #31
hillary is stuck sfwriter Dec 2016 #33
We'll see.... vi5 Dec 2016 #38
She is not in office...she does not owe anyone a blessed thing. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #43
"Owe"? No, you are correct. vi5 Dec 2016 #47
I think she should retire and enjoy her family ...at 69...she has earned it. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #50
The Senate is in session this week. What is he doing a thousand miles away in a state... George II Dec 2016 #36
He hasn't missed any votes. He's also the new Outreach Chair Arazi Dec 2016 #139
Outstanding? Selling books? You do realize he's charging admission (with a "free book" thrown in)... George II Dec 2016 #143
Question to you Mr./Mrs./Miss/Ms. "Portlander"..... George II Dec 2016 #39
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #51
Interesting question... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #57
Color me shocked. George II Dec 2016 #59
I know, I am shocked as well, George. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #60
Thanks for the heads up. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #44
Pity I can not alert most the folks here for dembotoz Dec 2016 #46
Sen. Sanders is not a Democrat by his own choice. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #55
More than a bit disgusted dembotoz Dec 2016 #106
Bernie could be a Democrat but he chooses not to...and what does that say to voters? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #116
Well you said this upthread... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #136
All that matter is the letter after the name alarimer Dec 2016 #137
Skinner disagrees, Janey. QC Dec 2016 #118
It is not a matter of agreement. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #119
My name is not Janey Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #120
Well, of course he has a right to promote his book NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #49
1000 sheshe2 Dec 2016 #56
Bernie for 2020! Joe941 Dec 2016 #52
And the carping against Sanders continues. alarimer Dec 2016 #53
There's apparently 60 responses to this portlander23 Dec 2016 #61
You're not missing much .... All the Bernie hater drama junkies yak yak yakking SSDD SalviaBlue Dec 2016 #67
Yes, this town hall thing is a good idea mountain grammy Dec 2016 #73
"I hope they can do these all over the country, with all kinds of people." SMC22307 Dec 2016 #94
And it's allowed. But criticise the corporate Dems who handed this election to Marr Dec 2016 #98
Senate Democrats made Sander the Chair of Outreach. What are people complaining about? RAFisher Dec 2016 #74
This isn't to sell Bernie, he just draws the crowds. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #76
Sanders is the Outreach Chair for the Democrats in the Senate. He'll be doing things like this all think Dec 2016 #103
and that's what we need. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #109
Indeed. I'm glad Sanders is out working hard to get organizations and individuals involved. think Dec 2016 #110
Anybody know Rep. Ohnstad? HassleCat Dec 2016 #78
Not familiar with him at all. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #95
 

think

(11,641 posts)
58. Sanders is the new Outreach Chair for the Democrats. You'll see & hear of him being all over the
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:25 PM
Dec 2016

country in the years to come....

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
140. That attitude is why Republicans control a record number of statehouses and executive mansions.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 12:44 PM
Dec 2016

Outreach should be 365-24/7.

George II

(67,782 posts)
142. Not by sitting legislators when the houses are in session. After tomorrow (or later today maybe)...
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 01:04 PM
Dec 2016

....there will be a recess for two or three weeks.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
92. Agreed! But he was such a long shot...
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:01 AM
Dec 2016

it's pretty amazing he did as well as he did. And poor Martin O'Malley -- a good guy who barely registered. It'll be interesting to see what the future holds for him.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
100. To me, Bernie is the ANTI-tRump. He spoke to the GOOD in people... and that's why his progressive message resonated with so many.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:46 AM
Dec 2016

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
4. Shush now. Don't bring reality to this discussion.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:57 AM
Dec 2016

(And someone is going to respond with "coattails!", but his lost was larger than Hillary's in the state.)

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
12. Can't blame him for trying to make a buck
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:57 AM
Dec 2016

he doesn't take bankster money like some politicians.

Response to elmac (Reply #12)

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
70. Hillary sells books and fights for the little people, no?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:45 AM
Dec 2016

Today Bernie and Keith Ellison joined striking low-wage federal workers in their protest. United we stand... can't wait to see what more is in store from those two! And Elizabeth Warren, of course.

George II

(67,782 posts)
123. Yes, and Sanders made a big flourish about "marching" with Verizon union workers....
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:16 PM
Dec 2016

...in NY earlier this year. Meanwhile, Clinton did something about it and the two unions involved in the labor dispute with Verizon endorsed Clinton.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
124. Multitasking?
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:45 PM
Dec 2016

He is 'said' to be our most 'progressive' Senator. A man for the working class. We have a Pres elect about to destroy every value we have ever known or loved. He will destroy human rights, women's rights, voting rights, every imaginable minority rights. Here you tell me BS is multi tasking. Our environment and economy is at risk and you call hawking his book multitasking.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
125. Yes. You can "hawk" a book and still do progressive work for the people.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:24 PM
Dec 2016

I've paid attention to the Senate calendar and I don't see that Bernie has missed anything.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
126. Interesting...
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:33 PM
Dec 2016

If it was Hill, a woman she would be destroyed in the press. My heart cries out for the double standards.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
127. That is definitely possible but I'm not the press and I have no desire to harm Hillary
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:43 PM
Dec 2016

I do agree with you that there is a double standard when it comes to women. It's not right and I will fight right along side you on that.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
130. I may have been able to come up with an answer before trump
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:14 AM
Dec 2016

Now, it is okay to demean women, sexually assault them as well so our pres elect tells us so. PRES ELECT SAYS YES TO VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN! TAKE A TIC TAC THEN GRAB THEIR P**SY. I can do this, I am a star.


VAWA is coming up to be renewed. Pretty sure we will be left behind.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
135. What? The non-existent media narrative you invented as an example?
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 07:20 PM
Dec 2016

Sure. OK.

I don't disagree that there is a double standard, but what bearing does that have on Sanders doing the outreach he's been tasked to do?

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
114. You might as well save your breath
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:47 AM
Dec 2016

That fact has been pointed out several times in this thread already, but there are posters here who refuse to hear anything except their own negative, caustic narrative when it comes to Sanders.

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #7)

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
71. Did you miss the news yesterday?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:07 AM
Dec 2016
Senate Republicans Block Sanders-Backed 'Trump Proposal' on Rx Drugs

Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked a Bernie Sanders-backed amendment aimed at lowering prescription drug prices and allowing for the import of low-cost medicines from other countries.

Sanders (I-Vt.) sought to attach the proposal to the controversial 21st Century Cures Act, which is ostensibly geared toward fueling medical innovation. Both Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) have decried the legislation, poised to pass the Senate on Wednesday, as a Big Pharma giveaway.

....

"During his run for the White House, Trump called for requiring Medicare to negotiate with drug companies to lower prices. In a speech in New Hampshire last Feb. 7, Trump criticized current U.S. law that forbids Medicare from negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies. Trump said: "We are not allowed to negotiate drug prices. Can you believe it? We pay about $300 billion more than we are supposed to, than if we negotiated the price. So there’s $300 billion on day one we solve."

Trump's campaign platform also advocated making it legal to reimport cheaper drugs from other countries."


....

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/12/07/senate-republicans-block-sanders-backed-trump-proposal-rx-drugs


I love how he throws it back in Trump's face. Go Bernie and Elizabeth!

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
96. Correct.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:30 AM
Dec 2016

So is the importance of SS ACA MEDICARE AND MEDICAID.

Where is he? 20 million people will lose ACA. That is affordable health care if you did not know. It is healthcare for us poor peeps. SS, that is us between living and dying under a bridge.

Are you on any of these programs? I am on two.

Where is Bernie?

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
97. The battle begins in January.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:44 AM
Dec 2016

New president, new congress.

If you were paying attention, you'd know Bernie is a fierce advocate of the social safety net. Better keep an eye on the woodchucks, however -- they're the ones who can't be trusted.

And as pointed out to you elsewhere in this thread, Bernie's been supporting low-wage federal workers along with Keith Ellison, and fighting Rethuglicans and greedy pharmaceutical companies with your senator, Elizabeth Warren. Next week, in keeping with his Democratic leadership role, it's on to Wisconsin for voter outreach.

*That's* where Bernie is.

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #99)

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
81. Have you ever listened to Mozart?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:33 AM
Dec 2016

Try K-526 , his last great violin/piano sonata..

You might feel better.



elleng

(130,900 posts)
8. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders duo will lead liberals in the Senate.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:18 AM
Dec 2016

from The Boston Globe

Bernie Sanders did not like to open the phone lines to political critics when he hosted his Friday radio show on WDEV, a shoebox station...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/11/11/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-duo-will-lead-liberals-senate/vjyyHGz38b5ct4w1FIFp4N/story.html

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
9. Hmmmm
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:32 AM
Dec 2016

If that is so....should BS not be in the Senate to lead it. He is on a book tour. Warren is in the Senate. My senior Senator from MA is doing her job.

elleng

(130,900 posts)
10. Dec. 6-Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) proposed an amendment Tuesday to lower the cost of prescription
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:46 AM
Dec 2016

drugs by letting Medicare negotiate drug prices and allowing for the importation from other countries of low-cost prescription drugs – both proposals advocated by President-elect Donald Trump.

Republicans blocked the Sanders amendment.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-republicans-block-trump-proposal-to-lower-prescription-drug-prices

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alarimer

(16,245 posts)
35. It's only a big tent when it comes to non-progressives.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:10 AM
Dec 2016

DINOs, Blue Dogs, moderates, centrists. You know, the "sensible" ones. The ones who don't advocate free stuff.

Do I really need this?

Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #23)

Response to Post removed (Reply #32)

R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
16. So this is his excuse for failing to deliver after
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:38 AM
Dec 2016

months of his grandstanding and over promising?

Now it's .....but, but, but.. Republicans.

Uh yeah, Republicans.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
42. Really?
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:21 AM
Dec 2016

Not only are we not getting such an amendment, we will be lucky to keep any health care under Trump...Bernie had to have known that amendment was going nowhere.

George II

(67,782 posts)
63. Typical Sanders - proposed an AMENDMENT to a bill. "you lead, I'll follow"....
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:12 PM
Dec 2016

...why doesn't he write and introduce a stand-alone bill?

Response to certainot (Reply #14)

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
48. so liberals and dems let a few hundred think tank-scripted
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:04 PM
Dec 2016

blowhards on a 1000 coordinated radio stations call their sisters whores their brothers thieves and their reps traitors all day while hammering away on their tenth made-by-slave-labor computing device in 2 years about how their reps lost track of some of their unicorns.

really? we have this orange asshole in the white house because hillary and bill wanted more than civil servant money hanging out with SS the rest of their lives because a pack of dittoheads think they're running child sex slaves and tried to make some money talking to billionaires?

if you didn't vote because of hillary's private email server and now feel guilty about it at least do something useful to keep this guy out of the white house, and if that doesn't work out at least do something useful about getting the house and senate in 2 years. like maybe complain about how your university is renting its football mascot to the local limbaugh station so it can attract advertisers to pay for them to defund public education so they can privatize it and raise tuition?

and if you're a troll good luck with that medical bill after you inevitably shoot yourself in the foot while practicing your quick draw listening to your best buddy sean hannity

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
75. Good point. Al Gore's crusade against climate change being a prime example.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:17 AM
Dec 2016

Republicans were merciless.

Billy Bragg and Michael Moore live in big houses. Al Gore, too!

Bernie sells books.

And on and on...

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
18. Wait....
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:37 AM
Dec 2016
Bernie Sanders did not like to open the phone lines to political critics when he hosted his Friday radio show on WDEV, a shoebox station...


No open phone lines???? Why? I don't understand that. Why did BS not like to open the phones to political critics?????

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #18)

George II

(67,782 posts)
62. Thom Hartmann's show is a quasi-national radio show/podcast, whereas WDEV is the local...
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:10 PM
Dec 2016

....Vermont radio station listened to primarily by his constituency.

I wonder why he is/was afraid of questions from his constituents?

democrank

(11,094 posts)
27. Holding town halls in "Trump Country" is something we should do more of.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:18 AM
Dec 2016

I give Chris Hayes and Bernie Sanders a lot of credit for this. I'm going to listen and learn.

Response to democrank (Reply #27)

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
30. I agree.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:27 AM
Dec 2016

Bernie is good at listening, as well as finding common ground (AEB his speech at Liberty University).

I will also watch when I find it on YouTube/MSNBC website (unless I can find someone live streaming it... no cable here).

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
79. Agree. Doesn't seem to be a whole lot of listening going on...
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:25 AM
Dec 2016

but there's a never-ending litany as to why such-and-such group voted the way it did. Krugman is especially guilty of it. Perhaps he spent too much time in leafy Princeton and not enough in Appalachia or the dead/dying Rust Belt.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
111. The never Bernie crowd are just bent out of shape because he still has a vooce
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:57 AM
Dec 2016

A stronger voice for the left actually.

They can't believe that they are the ones who've been pushed into obscurity.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
113. Yep. He's formed alliances with Ellison, Warren, et al...
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:34 AM
Dec 2016

but shouldn't be listened to because of the letter next to his name. Only on the internet.

QC

(26,371 posts)
117. But those people out in the sticks are icky!!!
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:17 PM
Dec 2016

You can't get a good chai soy latté anywhere out there!

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
31. Nice..
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:49 AM
Dec 2016

It will also be interesting to see what Secretary of State Clinton does with her time now that she is not running for office. I think that will be the true test of her commitment to the American people, or it will prove the naysayers right.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
33. hillary is stuck
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:31 AM
Dec 2016

She really can't act out or appear in public very much while Trump is in transition out of respect for the democratic process. I'm certain we have not heard the last of her. Once Trump is in, I expect her to resume a leadership role of some sort.

There is really no point in her life that she wasn't leading on some issue.


For now, Sanders is doing what he can to promote his position, but he was only a Clinton surrogate in the campaign. He has the freedom to speak out by remaining apart from the party.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
43. She is not in office...she does not owe anyone a blessed thing.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:23 AM
Dec 2016

She should continue the foundation's work which has made a huge difference in Africa.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
47. "Owe"? No, you are correct.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:03 PM
Dec 2016

But she could have continued the foundation's work for Africa without running for President if that was where her priorities and passions were. That would be and would have been a noble effort that would have done some great work for a lot of people.

She ran for President presumably because she wanted certain things for this country. Again, a noble endeavor.

If that was indeed the case, then one can only assume she will take the opportunity to participate in one of the multitude of other ways that she can serve the country to accomplish many of the goals that she said she wanted to accomplish as President.

Which I have no doubt that she will do.

George II

(67,782 posts)
36. The Senate is in session this week. What is he doing a thousand miles away in a state...
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:19 AM
Dec 2016

....that he doesn't even represent?

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
139. He hasn't missed any votes. He's also the new Outreach Chair
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 12:43 PM
Dec 2016

He's been outstanding in this post election season

George II

(67,782 posts)
143. Outstanding? Selling books? You do realize he's charging admission (with a "free book" thrown in)...
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 01:06 PM
Dec 2016

for most of his "outreach" sessions, don't you?

Admission for one is $34 with a "free" book, $40 for two with one "free" book.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Question to you Mr./Mrs./Miss/Ms. "Portlander".....
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:33 AM
Dec 2016

.....Why do you post these articles and "news" items as OPs yet never EVER post in your own threads ever again?

I've seen about a dozen of these the last couple of days - an OP with numerous, sometimes hundreds, of responses but not a single one from you?

Why is that?

Response to George II (Reply #39)

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
44. Thanks for the heads up.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:25 AM
Dec 2016

But I will not be watching. I have no interest in anything Sen. Sanders says unless and until he becomes a Democrat. I have even less interest in Chris Hayes...the media helped elect Trump, they are dead to me. I do hope that Sen. Sanders will refrain from bashing the Democratic party and go after Trump and the GOP instead.

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
106. More than a bit disgusted
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:45 AM
Dec 2016

As a local dem official I can tell u clearly in my area Bernie provided a better path to victory than Hrc ever did..
Not a political comment just a objective measure of turnout and excitement.

Bernie had a flame
Hrc was a wet match

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
116. Bernie could be a Democrat but he chooses not to...and what does that say to voters?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 06:53 PM
Dec 2016

Sorry, I have no respect for his actions of late.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
136. Well you said this upthread...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 07:33 PM
Dec 2016
dembotoz (10,539 posts)

46. Pity I can not alert most the folks here for
Bashing a fellow dem
Shame on u all


Yet here you are bashing Hillary. Hmmm

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
137. All that matter is the letter after the name
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 07:50 PM
Dec 2016

Nothing else, I guess.

They make me not want to be a part of their club anymore, it's just hateful bitterness. Hillary did not have a message that resonated well enough with people and that is the bottom line. But there's a lot of "La, la, I can't hear you" going on.

As it is, without major changes and without people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, the Democratic Party will never win another national election.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
119. It is not a matter of agreement.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:20 AM
Dec 2016

One either joins the party or one doesn't. He is not
a Democrat.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
120. My name is not Janey
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:25 AM
Dec 2016

by the way...also, I don't consider that Bernie aligns himself with Democrats these days...seems pretty critical of our party to me...but I still don't like him.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
49. Well, of course he has a right to promote his book
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:40 PM
Dec 2016

but he does not have a right to say he's working hard in the Senate for "the people." This "town hall" is only a part of an extensive book tour. Ask any author who has done one; a book tour takes quite a bit of time and energy. You can either go on a book tour or work hard in the Senate; doing both is almost impossible.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
53. And the carping against Sanders continues.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:53 PM
Dec 2016

To no good purpose.

Maybe try to engage with the substance, rather than bitching that he "isn't on the team." Well, I'm pretty sure I don't want to be on a team with you all either, if that's all you care about. I swear the D after someone's name is like the star on the star-bellied sneetches: only a marker of who is in, versus who is out.

It sounds like these are the folks we need to hear from: union members, auto workers and the like. I hope they can do these all over the country, with all kinds of people.

 

portlander23

(2,078 posts)
61. There's apparently 60 responses to this
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 07:14 PM
Dec 2016

And I can see about 20 because I've blocked people who don't have anything constructive to say. Bernie campaigned for Clinton, even after a rigged primary, and people still hate him. It's irrational.

That said, make no doubt that Sanders, Warren, and progressives have every intent of taking over the party. Maybe that's why people are mad?

In any case, people should be happy someone is going out to the voters, many of whom we lost, and making the case against Trump.

SalviaBlue

(2,916 posts)
67. You're not missing much .... All the Bernie hater drama junkies yak yak yakking SSDD
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:34 PM
Dec 2016

Thanks for the heads up re Bernie townhall

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
73. Yes, this town hall thing is a good idea
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:13 AM
Dec 2016

we need to get back grassroots, to talking to people. We'll never reach the trumpers, but I believe we can reach the apathetic who aren't voting. We get that block and Republicans will lose bigly!

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
94. "I hope they can do these all over the country, with all kinds of people."
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:17 AM
Dec 2016

Yes. More listening, please.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
98. And it's allowed. But criticise the corporate Dems who handed this election to
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 02:55 AM
Dec 2016

a reality TV show host through sheer arrogance and incompetence; people who happily risked everyone else's futures for a shot at advancing their careers, ignoring the polls that clearly said their corporate candidate could not win, putting everything on black and just rolling the dice... and then just retiring into Wall Street wealth when they failed, and you may have a problem.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
74. Senate Democrats made Sander the Chair of Outreach. What are people complaining about?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:17 AM
Dec 2016

Isn't this outreach?

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
76. This isn't to sell Bernie, he just draws the crowds.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:20 AM
Dec 2016

This is to remind the people that they are the power, that we have the answers, that we are a better choice. We had a great, progressive platform and never had the chance to sell it.

I say you go Bernie. Progressive ideas can win when people hear them.

Dear fellow Democrats on this thread. Bernie Sanders is not your enemy. Those of us who supported him are not your enemies. We all got on board and worked our asses off and we lost. We all lost together.

Now, let's take it back together. The best slogan our candidate had: stronger together.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
103. Sanders is the Outreach Chair for the Democrats in the Senate. He'll be doing things like this all
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:08 AM
Dec 2016

over the country working to get organizations and individuals more involved with the Democratic party at the local level.


And I accept this responsibility as outreach chair with a lot of trepidation, but also with excitement. I’m going to be going around the country to try to do everything that I can to create a party which represents working people and not just the 1 percent.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/democracy-now-special-bernie-sanders-trumps-victory-need-rebuild-democratic-party

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
109. and that's what we need.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:51 AM
Dec 2016

Bernie appealed to previously apathetic people. Should they be apathetic? Of course not, but the reality is people have bought the "they're all the same" and "nothing ever changes" even with evidence right before their eyes. Let's open their eyes and get them involved. There will be no greater contrast than now between the Republican agenda and ours, and we have to continue to reach out! Bernie Sanders is the best one to do it at this moment in time.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
110. Indeed. I'm glad Sanders is out working hard to get organizations and individuals involved.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:55 AM
Dec 2016

The party will benefit greatly from these outreach efforts.

And as you say Bernie is the best one to be doing thing this. I look forward to his efforts!

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
78. Anybody know Rep. Ohnstad?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:25 AM
Dec 2016

I went to grade school in Altoona with a Tod Ohnstad, and he is my age, so it could be the same guy. His mom was known for her talent at whistling. Musical whistling, not whistling for the dogs or anything like that.

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