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other voters--even Republican voters. Rachel Maddow reported on an exclusive early release of some of the new poll tonight.
Up is Down and Down is UP
Poll: 59% of Trump voters say Trump should not release his tax returns
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Timothy McBride @mcbridetd 3h3 hours ago
4. Incredibly, 40% of Trump voters think Trump won popular vote (though of course Clinton did)
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Timothy McBride @mcbridetd 3h3 hours ago
3. Unemployment fell in half under Obama, but yet 67% of Trump voters think unemployment went up!@ppppolls @maddow
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Timothy McBride @mcbridetd 3h3 hours ago
2. Stock market rose 11,666 points under Obama, but 39% of Trump voters think Dow is DOWN under @POTUS
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ofus @ofus 3h3 hours ago
Trump voters don't live in our reality. They have their own facts. via @ppppolls on @maddow
https://twitter.com/ofus/status/807048892474916872
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Big Daddy @Big_Daddy1965 3h3 hours ago
@ppppolls wow @maddow shows 2/3s of the USA wants you to release your tax returns @realDonaldTrump except your supporters
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzMz1G3UsAAkE2P.
Timothy McBride
@mcbridetd
5. 50% of all voters approved of Obama, yet only FIVE PERCENT of Trump voters approve of @POTUS
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8:30 PM - 8 Dec 2016
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Timothy McBride @mcbridetd 3h3 hours ago
6. Most incredibly (maybe) 29% of Trump voters don't think California's vote should be included in popular vote
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/806992599647133699
Dennis Shea @DennisG_Shea 3h3 hours ago
@mcbridetd @ppppolls @maddow well 3 million illegal votes you know
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Timothy McBride @mcbridetd 3h3 hours ago
@DennisG_Shea 60% of Trump voters think millions of illegals voted
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world wide wally
(21,742 posts)It is not nice to call them stupid
SHRED
(28,136 posts)LonePirate
(13,419 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)world wide wally
(21,742 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)jobs, food, and shelter.. health care.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)spooky3
(34,447 posts)Reach them. I wonder what percent listen to RW hate radio.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)At least they might believe that.
spooky3
(34,447 posts)The evidence suggests that BIG lies are very effective with these people. Promise that you'll being their jobs back, that you'll get them or their kids free tuition (with the current Republican Congress--yeah, that's doable), that you'll deport all those nasty immigrants, etc. They'll vote for you!
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)I like it
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Are some of them salvageable? Probably. Is it worth the time to try to figure out which ones, or is our time better spent on the people who didn't vote this election who usually are reliably D?
Hmm, that's a tough one.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)What a useless sack of shit he was.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)false equivalency assholes that believe both parties are the same.
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)THIS is the real enemy - The Stupid.
You can't reason with them, you can't educate them, you can't counter the bullshit with facts - because they have their own "facts".
These are people who think the earth is 6,000 years old, because the Bible says so. These are people who believe Alex Jones is telling them the truth that the gov't is trying to hide from them. These are people who respond to those emails from the Ethiopian prince whose uncle left millions in a US bank account, and actually send them him their banking information. These are people who think ALL welfare recipients are black, and they spend their welfare checks on big-screen TVs and crack.
These are people who know that Trump outsources jobs to low-wage countries, and still believe he's on the side of the working man. These are people who heard the pussy-grabber tape, and still insist that Trump is a good Christian who was "chosen by god" to lead them.
You can't fight The Stupid. You can't convince them that Democrats are the "party of the people" because those latte-lovin' liberals are always giving their hard-earned tax dollars to lazy moochers, and funding drive-through abortion clinics.
The Stupid aren't ashamed of their stupidity. They wear it as a badge of honour - and it's an accolade they don't want taken away from them.
They will literally believe anything, as long as the person telling the tale is as stupid as they are.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)The popularity of the GOP front-runner can be explained by the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Many commentators have argued that Donald Trumps dominance in the GOP presidential race can be largely explained by ignorance; his candidacy, after all, is most popular among Republican voters without college degrees. Their expertise about current affairs is too fractured and full of holes to spot that only 9 percent of Trumps statements are true or mostly true, according to PolitiFact, whereas 57 percent are false or mostly falsethe remainder being pants on fire untruths. Trump himself has memorably declared: I love the poorly educated.
But as a psychologist who has studied human behaviorincluding voter behaviorfor decades, I think there is something deeper going on. The problem isnt that voters are too uninformed. It is that they dont know just how uninformed they are.
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Again, the key to the Dunning-Kruger Effect is not that unknowledgeable voters are uninformed; it is that they are often misinformedtheir heads filled with false data, facts and theories that can lead to misguided conclusions held with tenacious confidence and extreme partisanship, perhaps some that make them nod in agreement with Trump at his rallies.
Trump himself also exemplifies this exact pattern, showing how the Dunning-Kruger Effect can lead to what seems an indomitable sense of certainty. All it takes is not knowing the point at which the proper application of a sensible idea turns into malpractice.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904
Initech
(100,068 posts)malaise
(268,980 posts)No one can be that disconnected from reality without a reason