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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:55 AM Dec 2016

Anybody who isn't outraged by the Russian manipulation of our election is deplorable

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deserving strong condemnation.
"the deplorable conditions in which most prisoners are held"
synonyms: disgraceful, shameful, dishonorable, unworthy, inexcusable, unpardonable, unforgivable; More
shockingly bad in quality.
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Anybody who isn't outraged by the Russian manipulation of our election is deplorable (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 OP
It's beyond that... Raster Dec 2016 #1
This was a criminal theft of our election. NightWatcher Dec 2016 #2
They are interfering in European elections too. They interfered on the Brexit vote. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #3
I hadn't heard that they interfered in the Brexit vote. hedda_foil Dec 2016 #6
Voila DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #7
Merciful beaucoup hedda_foil Dec 2016 #8
Trump and Putin are making French the language of freedom. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #9
From the link video: yallerdawg Dec 2016 #11
"They knew he was corrupt when they voted for him so I don't think anyone is bothered" Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #17
Same hackers in Turkey email wiki info dumps, and malware removed from Ukraines vote machines. Sunlei Dec 2016 #13
That won't happen here TrishaJ Dec 2016 #4
I'm very open to the possibility but the stories I've read still only say they are highly convinced think Dec 2016 #5
How come??? jaxind Dec 2016 #10
many reasons, , pangaia Dec 2016 #15
Republicans were never outraged or even slightly concerned. Not even now. why is that Rs? Sunlei Dec 2016 #12
So, what do we try to do about it? pangaia Dec 2016 #14
So why did Obama and his admin sit on this too? ananda Dec 2016 #16
I have no idea. I will say the evidence has to be unimpeachable. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #18
Obama's style seems to be very un-confrontational. LisaL Dec 2016 #19
And why is that? ananda Dec 2016 #21
Maybe because even though he knew the machines were hacked libtodeath Dec 2016 #20
Well... ananda Dec 2016 #22

Raster

(20,998 posts)
1. It's beyond that...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:01 AM
Dec 2016
sedition
: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

treason
1
: the betrayal of a trust : treachery
2
: the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. This was a criminal theft of our election.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:07 AM
Dec 2016

This no less than an act of war, but we aren't going to do anything about it.

Permanent damage will be inflicted upon our country by trump and the pukes during this illegal occupation.

A real country would fight back, arrest those who've assaulted the highest office in the land, and prevent trump from taking power.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. They are interfering in European elections too. They interfered on the Brexit vote.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:11 AM
Dec 2016

Trump and the GOP has opened the Gates Of Hell.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
11. From the link video:
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:48 PM
Dec 2016

Hillary mentioned this Russian interference for Trump in the debates!

No political consequences were triggered or criminal proceedings were initiated, as far as we knew.

And over 60,000,000 still voted for him!

 
17. "They knew he was corrupt when they voted for him so I don't think anyone is bothered"
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:53 PM
Dec 2016

Classic republican logic. Straight from the mouth of Ryan. It'll take confirmation by the non-"crooked media" (breitbart, dredge, fox, their facebook feeds) to get these people to see the light of day.

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
4. That won't happen here
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:12 AM
Dec 2016

until the public is destitute enough to organize and storm the Capitol. This is where the "2nd Amendment Solution" comes in. Think French and Russian revolutions and recent events in the Baltic States where leaders eventually get run out by a raging mob.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
5. I'm very open to the possibility but the stories I've read still only say they are highly convinced
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 AM
Dec 2016

that the Russians were involved and this is coming from anonymous sources. That's not a slam dunk and that's not good enough in something as serious as the accusations are.



American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html




Before one takes a firm stand shouldn't people want to see some actual evidence from actual persons willing to come forward and present it? I hope that's not too much to ask.....

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
10. How come???
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:47 PM
Dec 2016

How come everything with us has to be a slam dunk before it's taken as legitimate, but with them, it only has to have a sniff of doubt, and we become villified as guilty??? Look at Comey's statement before the election...Trump comes out and says "it's worse than Watergate" and "oh boy, you won't believe what they're finding in Hillary's emails" and their side then finds Hillary guilty! No proof needed on their part, but for us, it always has to be a slam dunk!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. many reasons, ,
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:27 PM
Dec 2016

1- Self-willed ignorant stupidity..
2-Self-willed ignorant stupidity..
3-Self-willed ignorant stupidity..
4-Self-willed ignorant stupidity..


5- MEDIA
6- MEDIA
7- MEDIA
8- MEDIA

9-- Fill in the blank
10-Fill in the blank
11-Fill in the blank
12-Fill in the blank

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. So, what do we try to do about it?
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:25 PM
Dec 2016
The South Koreans just sure as hell did something !!



We all spend a lot of time here doing.. well, ya'll know what.
Crying, bitching, commissuraaating....etc etc etc...
And that is fine.

BUT.. we gotta fight back... Me TOO !!!!

NOW !!!!!!!


SO I suggest---

Get out and contact your reps and tell them to fight against this coup d'etat and every single nominee il duce puts up for his cabinet.

Call the White House
Call Attorneys General
Write letters to editors.
Contact broadcast media.
Join groups fighting the coup.
Contribute $$ if you can.
Post on social media.
Join protests, marches, strikes, boycotts.
any other type of civil disobedience. .
PROTEST any way possible...

Anything else you might think of...

THE SOUTH KOREANS JUST DID IT!!!!!!!!!!

BRAVO 대한민국 !!!



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. I have no idea. I will say the evidence has to be unimpeachable.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:53 PM
Dec 2016

When the Soviets placed missiles in Cuba we had reconnaissance photos we shared with the world. I hope we have such evidence in this instance.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
21. And why is that?
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:36 PM
Dec 2016

Is it because deep down he lines up more with
Republican corporatism and Democratic ideals?

I have always thought this about him, from the
very beginning; and he has very seldom proven
me wrong.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
22. Well...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:38 PM
Dec 2016

That appears to be true for all of them.

But it gives the media a chance to minimize or go silent
on the Reep complicity in order to shift blame and focus
to Obama and his admin.

The sad thing is that we have nothing in place for
dealing with consitutional crimes and treason when
ideologists are in charge.

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