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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome guy is saying a public prayer at the Army Navy game.
Is that legal????
Fuck that shit...
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,926 posts)And even if legal, this sort of public praying shouldn't be happening.
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others ... When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray ... in secret." Matthew 6: 5-6.
mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)Let us pray with chik fil a....
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)The military says prayers at a lot of events.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Is it always a christian prayer?
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I'm sure rabbis and Iman do to but there are so few of them in the military.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)However, I never attended an army navy game so not sure if this unique to just this annual game.
Kingofalldems
(38,503 posts)His name is Trump.
BigDemVoter
(4,158 posts)I certainly haven't.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Navy had some jets. I though the navy had ships.
Why didn't they have an air craft carrier?
ret5hd
(20,557 posts)Just sayin'.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I also imagine the logistics of an aircraft carrier flyover would be very difficult.
stopbush
(24,398 posts)an "in your face!" expression of the position of unwarranted privilege that sorry belief system is afforded in this country.
11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)caused you to suffer unnecessary angst.
stopbush
(24,398 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Go ahead.
stopbush
(24,398 posts)Stupidities get harder to hold onto the longer they're recognized as stupidities
rug
(82,333 posts)If you indeed believe the world can no longer afford religious belief, assuming you're not simply posturing on the internet, you are assuming the duty to step up. Calling religious beliefs, anonymously, "stupidities" doesn't really do it.
11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)You've got several billions of people to convince. Get to work.
stopbush
(24,398 posts)People want to post their religious shit here, I'm going to push back, here.
You have a right to believe whatever religious bullshit you want. I have every right to call it bullshit. I have no problem with your right to believe bullshit, but it is bullshit.
11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)people of faith is going to straighten things out, I say, "Go for it!"
Merry Christmas.
onenote
(42,821 posts)Hell, Trump's probably less of a Christian, both in practice and in his beliefs, than Clinton.
stopbush
(24,398 posts)Hillary is a better person than Trump. Has nothing to do with religion.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)If on our airwaves then it is a violation of the first amendment.
onenote
(42,821 posts)I don't think you can find any support for that in any case law.
I guess the televised funerals of JFK and RFK were unconstitutional then.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Because, according to you, people whose beliefs are different than yours don't have First Amendment rights?
Hint: Your First Amendment rights are not violated by someone else exercising theirs, even if you find their thoughts or beliefs offensive. We are granted no right, express or implied, to never be offended.
brooklynite
(94,922 posts)Is the game occurring on Government property?
pstokely
(10,533 posts)nt
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Who cares?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish... whatever. Saying kind words hoping for good things and protection from harm just does not offend me. Now, I may not join in, but well wishes are welcome in Drahthaardogs world, no matter what form they take.
UTUSN
(70,779 posts)jalan48
(13,908 posts)All that money for weapons contractors. Yee Haw!
Brother Buzz
(36,490 posts)Army has a ton of them, too, but Navy was the home team so I would would assume they would choose one
pangaia
(24,324 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Jump to page 13.
What's peculiar about the Army-Navy game is that it's considered a military activity. Attendance of cadets is mandatory, subject to requests to be excused. Therefore, the practice invokes not only the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause but, believe it or not, the War Powers Clause.
Consequently, when a matter provided for by Congress in the exercise of its war power and implemented by the Army appears reasonably relevant and necessary to furtherance of our national defense it should be treated as presumptively valid and any doubt as to its constitutionality should be resolved ... in favor of deference to the militarys exercise of discretion. Katcoff v. Marsh, 755 F.2d 223 (2d Cir. 1985).
So, make attendance voluntary and it's once again a football game on government property, in which government-led prayer violates the Establishment Clause, and is no longer the frontline of defense against terrorism.