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I trust the CIA to be looking out for America's interests more than I trust the KGB Freethinker65 Dec 2016 #1
How is sending America's tax dollars to ISIS helping our interests? davidn3600 Dec 2016 #8
If what you say is indeed occurring, my answer is - Realpolitik Freethinker65 Dec 2016 #10
+1 RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #2
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That was Cheney and his Office of Special Plans that lied about Iraq. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #4
It's not just the CIA pointing out the Russian influence... JHan Dec 2016 #5
Oh, the cyber. Big with the cyber. AngryAmish Dec 2016 #21
#lol Just for you. e. e. trumpings on the cyber.. JHan Dec 2016 #23
Diarrhea. He had nothing to say. AngryAmish Dec 2016 #25
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Overseas, things can be murky. Domestically, I trust they put the country first. LonePirate Dec 2016 #7
Murky to us, perhaps but not to those "overseas".. pangaia Dec 2016 #16
Seriously, are you basing this on what gabbard of all people is saying? etherealtruth Dec 2016 #9
So if Assad goes....what happens next in that power vacuum? Who takes over? davidn3600 Dec 2016 #14
With Trump in the White House, Assad safer than he's been in years. Bucky Dec 2016 #17
No fears of Assad losing now ... Trump and the Russians have this all settled etherealtruth Dec 2016 #22
1000 sheshe2 Dec 2016 #19
Really questioning the cia because of a Trumpster mouthpiece... pbmus Dec 2016 #11
Yes, because they are giving us some hope dumbcat Dec 2016 #12
I no longer know who to trust malaise Dec 2016 #13
There's been plenty of evidence on your TV for the past four months Bucky Dec 2016 #15
remember, this is the US of A. pangaia Dec 2016 #20
Nope. I don't believe the CIA anymore than I believe the NSA. look at their history. nt m-lekktor Dec 2016 #18
NSA and FBI counterintelligence would have actual information about what was done FarCenter Dec 2016 #26
I believe both can be true. bluedigger Dec 2016 #24
I trust Obama RazBerryBeret Dec 2016 #27
I'm sad that we have to question the allegiance of those who should be defending us. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #28
the cia can't talk about it zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #29
yes because everything else in the world leads to that conclusion Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #30

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
1. I trust the CIA to be looking out for America's interests more than I trust the KGB
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 07:51 PM
Dec 2016

or whoever is advising the president elect. Not saying I approve of all of their methods, or would blindly believe everything they produce as evidence, but still...

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
8. How is sending America's tax dollars to ISIS helping our interests?
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:00 PM
Dec 2016

Didn't we play this same game with Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan in the 80s?

How'd that turn out?

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JHan

(10,173 posts)
5. It's not just the CIA pointing out the Russian influence...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 07:57 PM
Dec 2016

Several independent cyber security firms noted it as well.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. Murky to us, perhaps but not to those "overseas"..
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:09 PM
Dec 2016

by which I assume you mean across the Atlantic, Pacific, or Caribbean. :&gt )

I spend a good deal of time 'overseas'. Trust me, we are much murkier than the people I hang with are.



etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
9. Seriously, are you basing this on what gabbard of all people is saying?
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:02 PM
Dec 2016

she was on NPR this morning talking bout how the russians and Assad were better for the Syrian people than the rebels

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/10/505079126/hawaii-congresswoman-tulsi-gabbard-introduces-bill-to-halt-u-s-arms-supplies-to


SIMON: Let me follow up on this, Representative Gabbard. Are you really holding the Syrian rebels more responsible for the death and destruction in Aleppo, for example, than the Assad regime?

GABBARD: I'm simply being a realist about the situation - and that the people in Syria would be in a far worse situation if al-Qaida took charge and took over Syria than they were before this effort to overthrow this regime began.

SIMON: I mean, the Assad regime has used chemical weapons and has committed what a lot of people consider to be war crimes against its own people. You really think the Syrian rebels would be worse?

GABBARD: My statement stands. If those who are calling for the removal of this regime are, in essence, accepting
 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
14. So if Assad goes....what happens next in that power vacuum? Who takes over?
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:08 PM
Dec 2016

Can you be certain it will turn out better for the Syrian people?

Because that policy hasn't worked anywhere else.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
22. No fears of Assad losing now ... Trump and the Russians have this all settled
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:14 PM
Dec 2016

sometimes you just have to leave it up to the people ... Assad is an horrendous "leader" that has gassed, bombed, and killed by many means his own people ... you are saying it is best to help and support keeping this in power? Well Putin has decided on the Syrian's people behalf that this is what they will have (Gabbard appears to agree)

dumbcat

(2,160 posts)
12. Yes, because they are giving us some hope
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:06 PM
Dec 2016

Something that has been in short supply around here.

malaise

(295,377 posts)
13. I no longer know who to trust
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:07 PM
Dec 2016

Phillip Agree came to Jamaica decades ago and told us some truths about his agency.

I know what was done here as well.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
15. There's been plenty of evidence on your TV for the past four months
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:09 PM
Dec 2016

It's not like Russia hasn't finagled to get other anti-Nato rightwing despots elected in other western countries.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
20. remember, this is the US of A.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:12 PM
Dec 2016

Most people here, (not the person you replied to) don't know shit.
They have never been anywhere...


 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
26. NSA and FBI counterintelligence would have actual information about what was done
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:03 PM
Dec 2016

CIA is pieced together political speculation.

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
27. I trust Obama
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:08 PM
Dec 2016

if he called for an investigation, he must feel there is credible evidence. He's not a dumb attention seeker like the Don and wouldn't make this one of his last acts as POTUS.

 

zippythepinhead

(374 posts)
29. the cia can't talk about it
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:11 PM
Dec 2016

because it's "classified". Obama should declassify it. Then the american people [what's left of them] can decide.
















































 
30. yes because everything else in the world leads to that conclusion
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:16 PM
Dec 2016

Liberals have known Russia was colluding with the Trump campaign since October. Since that Trump tower server was in communication with a Putin-owned bank.

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