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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:28 AM Dec 2016

Is Donald Trump a "useful idiot" of Vladimir Putin or willing accomplice?


15 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Useful idiot
6 (40%)
Willing accomplice
9 (60%)
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Is Donald Trump a "useful idiot" of Vladimir Putin or willing accomplice? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 OP
Useful idiot. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #1
Willing accomplice. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #2
Yes. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #3
While Trump thinks this is a mutual arrangement, Putin is playing him as the Useful Idiot! TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #4
Owes big money to commies. Sell out US, no problem!! dmosh42 Dec 2016 #5
Sell out to save his skin is the real answer rurallib Dec 2016 #12
Useful idiot Arneoker Dec 2016 #6
Very useful idiot ...tRump is playing tic tac toe etherealtruth Dec 2016 #7
I believe Russia owns trump Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #8
Need a both button.... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #9
Dammit. I didn't want to reveal this term until I wrote my story. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #10
Both Bradical79 Dec 2016 #11

Arneoker

(375 posts)
6. Useful idiot
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:01 PM
Dec 2016

Saying he is an accomplice is a serious charge, and that needs damn good proof. And in the end I am not sure it matters that much. He will damage this country and the world to further the Kremlin's interests, that is what we have good reason to expect.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
7. Very useful idiot ...tRump is playing tic tac toe
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:10 PM
Dec 2016

.... while the rest of the world is playing multi-level chess

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
10. Dammit. I didn't want to reveal this term until I wrote my story.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:26 PM
Dec 2016

But, here it is: He is a useful idiot savant. It's a term I came up with to describe the sell-outs in my community. A useful idiot savant is someone who is astute enough to know he's being used, or exploited; intellectually aware that he will profit by playing along; and devious enough to know that he can claim plausible deniability if the whole thing falls apart. In other words, he's a premeditated useful idiot.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
11. Both
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:30 PM
Dec 2016

I think Putin could be playing himself in this situation too though. Sure, Trump helps some short term goals of Putin, but Trump has also shown no loyalty to anyone, and he's going to be in charge of the most powerful military in the world. Putin is a moron too in a lot of ways.

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