Glenn Carle, retired CIA officer, says Trump is on a collision path with the CIA.

[pnwmom]

I hope they take him down.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/11/intelligence-agencies-cia-donald-trump-russia

“There is not just smoke here. There is a blazing 10-alarm fire, the sirens are wailing, the Russians provided the lighter fluid, and Trump is standing half-burnt and holding a match,” said Glenn Carle, a retired CIA officer and interrogator.

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Carle, the retired CIA officer, said Trump’s temperament had played into Russia’s hands and put the president-elect on a collision course with the CIA.

He said: “Look, in my professional assessment as an intelligence officer, Trump has a reflexive, defensive, monumentally narcissistic personality, for whom the facts and national interest are irrelevant, and the only thing that counts is whatever gives personal advantage and directs attention to himself.

“He is about the juiciest intelligence target an intelligence office could imagine. He groans with vulnerabilities. He will only work with individuals or entities that agree with him and build him up, and he is a shockingly easy intelligence ‘target’ to manipulate.”

Were Trump an intelligence officer himself, Carle said, “he would be removed and possibly charged with having accepted the clandestine support of a hostile power to the harm of the United States”.

[MANative]

1. If I were a betting woman, I'd lay my money on the CIA in any fight. n/t

[TeamPooka]

6. Just ask Jack Kennedy. nt

[LS_Editor]

20. Yup.

[AwakeAtLast]

23. +1000! n/t

[Loki]

39. God forbid, but I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Trump has no idea what is coming.

[Mr. Evil]

49. I wonder if the CIA has any leftover MKUltra

'angry lone nuts' out there. This is definitely one time it would be justified.

[AgadorSparticus]

42. +1000!!!!

[bitterross]

53. My first thought too!

Messing with the CIA in the 50s/60s was terminal and they've had a lot of time since then to learn far better ways than the "Lone Gunman" to deal with people like Trump.

[bdamomma]

25. oh for sure

I wouldn't mess with the CIA.

[lagomorph777]

45. They are very experienced at regime change.

[mnhtnbb]

50. Precisely.

Cheeto Fucktrumpet better watch his six. 24/7.

[Duppers]

51. Kaboom.

I know CIA. You got it right.

[canetoad]

2. Let's hope

It's head-on, at 150 kmh.

[Nay]

3. They need to step up and do their duty, and I don't want to hear any shit

about how fucking scared they are of Trump. Your country hangs in the balance, guys and gals, and if you need to throw yourselves on the hand grenade, you have to do it. I don't want to hear 10 years from now that gee, you could have done this or that, but you would have lost your retirement bennies.

[flamingdem]

4. +1000

[jmowreader]

19. The CIA doesn't get scared easily

The CIA is exceptionally good at what it does; if there's some shit to be dug up on you, they WILL find it and they'll bring it to light. Donald Trump is correct to be quaking in his boots.

[Nay]

22. I agree that the CIA is very good at what it does, and that it generally consists

of people who are truly patriotic. But my original comment was made because we really need them to stand up and do what's right, since in the past few years we've been treated to a bunch of cowardly govt officials who are scared of their own shadows. Or complicit.

I am waiting anxiously for the CIA to use its vast powers to save us and, frankly, itself.

[FarCenter]

5. Unredacting The Interrogator by Glenn Carle

Before it could be published, Carle’s book was redacted by the CIA’s Publications Review Board, which cut some forty percent of the text. While the PRB insists that its redactions cover only “disclosures which could be harmful to the national interest,” embarrassment about Agency operations and mistakes — not to mention their possible criminality — may have played a role in the redactions. Among the changes the PRB insisted on was that Pacha Wazir’s name be kept secret, and that Carle disguise the locations where the prisoner was initially and ultimately held. Ironically, this information can be readily derived from examining documents concerning the CIA’s now-banned extraordinary-rendition program, among them reports prepared by the Council of Europe and human rights groups, data collected in various criminal investigations in Europe, and pleadings and documents submitted in habeas corpus litigation involving Pacha Wazir.

http://harpers.org/blog/2011/07/unredacting-the-interrogator/

Probably really "ex".

[CousinIT]

7. "monumentally narcissistic personality"

[ginnyinWI]

43. And they are big liars!

That's why we should never, ever believe what he says. As a narcissist, he lacks empathy, has a grandiose idea of who he is and what he can achieve, demands blind obedience, requires excessive admiration. will exploit others, and feels he is entitled to break the rules. He has the characteristics of a cult leader.

[eleny]

8. The CIA could play Trump like a fiddle And they could start on him right away with this one...

Drive him ape shit right off the bat. Of course I suppose he could shut down the agency. He's so smart, he has the best words, after all. Abracadabra has to be among them, dontcha think?

[napi21]

9. I'm betting on the CIA too. I'll be watching as events proceed in the Con's term in office.

I have my beer in the 'fridge, and snacks are ready. I really look forward to a battle of witts between an experienced group of professionals and an egomaniac who THINKS he's better than they are.

[pangaia]

46. What do you mean "in office?" We only have a week left to stop this.

[napi21]

47. Don'tt know what you're trying to stop, but I'm talking about a "hidden battle between "The Con"

and the Intelligence community. IF you are still hoping for a bailout by the Electoral College, that option is such a long shot, I'm not considering it at all.

[napi21]

54. Don't know what you're trying to stop, but I'm talking about a "hidden battle between "The Con &

intelligence community.

[lindysalsagal]

10. I believe he could be removed if necessary.

Fingers crossed there are some very patriotic people in the right places to file and broadcast seroius charges.

[TheFrenchRazor]

11. seriously, is he just going to "reject the intelligence" and get us into WWIII? nt

[ffr]

14. Donald, if left to his own devices will get us into a lot of trouble.

You're going to see those stupid red hats in the bin heaps of history.

[ffr]

12. That last sentence.

[ffr]

16. If Trump is willing to disregard sound intelligence now, and demean..."

...the hard-working and patriotic Americans who produced it, I fear what he will do as president when confronted with unpleasant truths,” Schiff said.

“Will he accept the best insights of our agencies, or punish them for daring to contradict his assumptions?” - Adam Schiff, the leading Democrat on the House intelligence committee

From report.

Who doubts that will happen?

[Quixote1818]

13. Trump has bulldozed over anyone who got in his way in the past.

It seems to have given him a sense that he can bully even the CIA and they will back down. I am hopeful he may be finally meeting an entity that is more powerful than he is. He seems like the type of person who would truly burn the house down if he gets into a corner so the CIA may have their hands full, but I would not want to get on their bad side. He better be careful suggesting they are incompetent because if there is anything on him that is illegal, they will find it and take him down hard.

[Mustellus]

15. Most of the FBI has spent decades....

.. working against Russian efforts to penetrate the United States.

I don't expect that their loyalties will be so easily whipsawed, either.

[ananda]

17. Not recently.

The FBI is definitely in the Russian's corner now.

[mountain grammy]

24. and trump's.

[marylandblue]

28. It was just a part of the FBI in NY that is pro-Trump

The Washington people were not. And I wonder how many in the New York office are starting to regret their actions.

[mountain grammy]

31. I hope you're right.

[roamer65]

18. I hope for the sake of the country the EC rejects him on Dec19th.

Otherwise this is going to be ugly.

[Mc Mike]

21. He's such a greedy scammer, that he's extremely susceptible to a bribe, too. nt.

[hughee99]

26. Is anyone else uncomfortable with the idea of

Putting their trust in the CIA to determine what happened and who did what?

[pnwmom]

27. They gave accurate info to the Bush administration

on WMD's -- it was Bush/Cheney who distorted the info they were given.

But what are our options at this point, if you don't trust the CIA?

I guess there's always the KGB . . .

[hughee99]

29. Yeah, I guess your right, it's not like they have a history

Of manipulating governments around the world, conducting clandestine operations off the books, or operating in a way that their own government has forbidden to do. Let me ask it this way, if this were about Clinton instead of trump, how confident would you be that they were acting in the best interests of the American people rather than in their own best interests?

[pnwmom]

30. The staffers at the CIA, like the FBI, tend to be conservative --

-- so it's hard to imagine them going against the Rethug unless he were as corrupt and evil as we know DT is.

[hughee99]

33. I find it hard to imagine they'd do anything that

Wasn't in their own personal interests (well, in the Agency's own interests), and that could easily mean pushing for a candidate less ideologically aligned with them. For example, which course of action gives the CIA more money and power, continuing clandestine Ops in Syria, or dropping a nuke on the region.

[no_hypocrisy]

32. Do you think Trump will try to fire the current head of the CIA?

[pnwmom]

34. He's already picked a new CIA head.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-picks-kansas-mike-pompeo-cia-director/

[dixiegrrrrl]

37. Just read Pompeo's bio

Another NRA, anti-abortion, hawkish, climate change denier.

Sigh.

[LisaM]

40. Who thinks he is making Kansas "more prosperous".

Aren't they practically in an economic death spiral?

[Duppers]

52. Yes. Along with climate scientists.

Bet on it.

[JNelson6563]

35. This will turn into a big regret for Trump.

You would think Putin would've told him to not piss off the spooks.

[KewlKat]

36. What did he mean by

and Trump is standing half-burnt and holding a match

Is he saying that the Con had direct contact with those that helped on the election?

[Cha]

38. What?!! That's what I was Hoping!

Were Trump an intelligence officer himself, Carle said, “he would be removed and possibly charged with having accepted the clandestine support of a hostile power to the harm of the United States”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/11/intelligence-agencies-cia-donald-trump-russia



Mahalo, pnwmom

[lame54]

41. So was JFK

[Ford_Prefect]

44. With Pence standing behind him pulling the strings like Cheney who knows?

[IronLionZion]

48. The last president who collided with the CIA

It didn't go so well.

[flying-skeleton]

55. Trump is just going to run out the clock on the CIA Director

Once Trump is sworn in, he'll just replace the CIA Director and any underlings and THAT will be THAT and this whole thing will just be swept under the rug and deleted from all records !!