Trump is going to start selling Ryan's "improved"

[The_Casual_Observer]

Social Security and Medicare plans immediately after taking office. They will be described by him and fox news in terms of the only possible solution to the looming collapse of the current systems. This propaganda will be relentless and continue until they get a favorable poll number on the fox poll, at which time he will sign a bill eliminating SS payments in favor of a tax deferred private savings plan and a Medicare tax deferred voucher plan.

Do you have any doubts about this?

[pangaia]

1. Is this sourced info or an opinion?

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. It's purely an opinion.

[pangaia]

6. Whew!

Now I feel better..
OH wait.....
No I don't either....

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. Don't because this is it.

Can't you see it coming?

[pangaia]

9. Yes... Quite a while ago...

I am 73, retired.. very little income..
I thought I DID have enough saved with SS income, to make it 15 years or so ,if I lived very frugally and if "NOTHING HAPPENED!" Well, something happened.

I guess I am luckier than many...


I still travel 5,6,7 times/year outside the US but the trips are mostly paid for.. consultant.. but I don't make much if anything...

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. I'm pretty much In your shoes, that's why

I can sense this shit rolling rapidly in our direction.

[pangaia]

12. How safe are T-Bills?

I mean not the NORMAL safe. But, in this new scenario?

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. Every indication favors stocks right now.

I have nothing in stocks probably like you.
It will come around it always does

[pangaia]

14. Yes, I know.. I actually did about 12% in 2016 in bonds, of all things,

before I got out on Nov 11 just as bond market started to tank.

I mean as about the safest investment.
Other than in a jar or under a pillow. :&gt )

From here on out I can NOT afford to lose what I have..

[duffyduff]

3. Not going to happen. n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. What would possibly lead you to this conclusion?

Ryan's plan is on the table.

[TeamPooka]

5. I think we will win the House in 2018 if that were to happen.

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. maybe maybe not, the idiots that voted trump/ republican will believe this utter shit.

It will be like the WMD, it has to be proved in the most painful way that it was all lies and then it's way too late. Its the way things things are going to be done again now that Obama isn't blocking the shit anymore. It's a fact. Check back in a year.

[Cosmocat]

22. It's worse now than 2002/03

It's like the invasion of the body snatchers in this country right now ... soulless pods just going along with whatever crazy associated shit they are fed.

[montana_hazeleyes]

28. You hit it out the ballpark with that!

That's how it feels now. That movie creeped me out worse than any. I have it here but won't watch it. Haven't for decades now. Damn.

[pangaia]

10. What House?

It won't be a house by then.
It will be the Russian Council of Ministers

[TeamPooka]

15. There is that to worry about

[KittyWampus]

17. You sound really cynically cool and all, but that's not how Congress works.

But HEY GUYS let's be all defeatist and give up.

[pangaia]

18. Who's giving up?

here is what I have been doing...and suggesting to others to do...

Call/email the White House
Call Attorneys General
Contact Reps...
Write letters to editors.
Contact broadcast media.
Join groups fighting the coup.
Contribute $$ if you can.
Post on social media.
Join protests, marches, strikes, boycotts.
any other type of civil disobedience. .
PROTEST any way possible...

Anything else you might think of...

THE SOUTH KOREANS JUST DID IT!!!!!!!!!!

BRAVO 대한민국 !!!

[The_Casual_Observer]

24. The congress is primed to do exactly this. Ryan has been pushing this for years.

They now have a real salesman to finish it, and he will. The Appalachians will get on board right away. They believe that trump knows what he is doing.

[KittyWampus]

16. How exactly does a favorable poll number on foxCongressional votes?

He does not rule by fiat.

[The_Casual_Observer]

23. This will be passed by the congress. He will wait until there is a favorable fox poll to sign it.

He will then claim that there was overwhelming support for it.

[doc03]

19. You know they have to cut SS and Medicare because the

Democrats robbed the money and ran up a massive debt.

[Cosmocat]

21. Yep

nm

[onethatcares]

29. hammer, meet nail

it will be sold as a way to get the federal deficit under control. After all, President Obama more than quadurupled the national debt giving away smart phones and health insurance.(last sentence was sarcasm)

[Cosmocat]

20. This is very likely

nm

[applegrove]

25. And stocks will surge even more. And the average guy will buy some overvalued

stocks. Once again it will be the rich, people who are already in the market, who get a transfer of wealth from the poor and middle class.

[pangaia]

26. Not me, I'll put everything into t-bills

[Cosmocat]

30. That's the end game, yes

Always about serving the masters.

[nevergiveup]

27. I am thinking

NO WAY!!!......it is not going to happen.......but a few weeks ago I was thinking Hillary would win.