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deist99

(122 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:33 PM Dec 2016

The Defend and Improve Social Security Act of 2018

Since the repubs seemed bent of destroying social security I have come up with an alternate plan. It is something I have been kicking around in my head for awhile and finally put to paper. I plan on sending it to my congressman, but I would like to get DUers input first. Also feel free to send it to your reps also. And if there are any DUers that are really good with numbers please crunch them for me. I have used some online save social security calculators but I could not put all the changes I made into them. The closest I came up with was that this plan would make social security solvent until the 2070s.

The Defend and Improve Social Security Act of 2018

Whereas 85% of Americans support the social security program and wish to see it continued and strengthened upon passage of this bill;
All earned and unearned income will be subject to the Social Security Tax of 6.2 percent.
The number of credits needed to be insured for Social Security retirement will henceforth be 15.
There will be no change in the number of credits needed for Social Security Disability.
Social Security retirement and disability will have a minimum insured amount of $1500.00 a month starting in FY 2018.
Social Security Spousal Benefits will have a minimum insured amount of $1000.00 a month starting in FY 2018.
Social Security retirement and disability benefits will have a maximum insured amount of double the minimum insured amount.
Social Security widows benefits for those who were married at least 15 years will be the full amount of the number earners full benefit amount.
Social Security benefits will no longer be taxed as income or in any other manner.
Social Security full retirement age will be set at 62 upon passage of this bill.
Social Security COLA will be based on the CPI-W unless that COLA amount is under 2 percent. If the CPI-W amount is under 2 percent the COLA for that year will be 2 percent.

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The Defend and Improve Social Security Act of 2018 (Original Post) deist99 Dec 2016 OP
This, and many more bills like it. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #1
Yes deist99 Dec 2016 #5
Let's boil it all down to this: lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #6
Good luck with that hibbing Dec 2016 #2
That's the sad reality. I'm just not sure being unrealistic does us any good. Hoyt Dec 2016 #4
Don't fall for the same trap Dems have fallen into for years... lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #7
Sounds good to me. shraby Dec 2016 #3
Yep awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #8

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. This, and many more bills like it.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

Also, Dems need to start speaking in one- or two-syllable words:

"The Republicans want to drown your kids with global warming."
"The Republicans want to steal your Mom's money and starve her."
"The Republicans want to make you breathe poison."
"The Republicans want to make you drink poison."
"The Republicans want Putin to invade America."

Stop using mealy-mouthed words like "untruthful" or "disingenuous."

"The Republicans are LYING. They only LIE, 100% of the time."

deist99

(122 posts)
5. Yes
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:07 PM
Dec 2016

But I think we need actual plans to present to the American people, especially the working class. This plan says we are going to have those who have benefited the most from America to pay their fair share.

Now the argument I see from the other side is that we are just being tax and spend democrats. That's when we hit them with, well it's better than being cut taxes for the rich and take benefits from the working class republicans.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. Let's boil it all down to this:
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:24 PM
Dec 2016

"Republicans want to steal your money and we want to take it from them and give it back to you."

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
2. Good luck with that
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:40 PM
Dec 2016

As admirable as it is, you probably couldn't get the majority of Democrats in Congress to support it.


Peace

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. That's the sad reality. I'm just not sure being unrealistic does us any good.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:53 PM
Dec 2016

I've heard the arguments that you begin negotiations shooting for the sky. But sometimes shooting for the sky just causes everyone to totally disregard the issue and/or the shooter(s).

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. Don't fall for the same trap Dems have fallen into for years...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

"If we don't have the votes for it, we jsut won't bother."

That's no way to deliver any message.

Put the bills out there, yell a lot, and show people that the Pukes are trying to hurt them.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. Sounds good to me.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:43 PM
Dec 2016

Social security is too low for most of the retirees, those who worked minimum wage a good share of their lives, women as usual have always been shafted on the wages.

Enough of getting a miniscule raise like .3% then losing it to a raise in the cost of medicare. This should be added to your list. The raise in social security should not have medicare taken out of it. They need to devise some way to let retirees actually GET a raise, maybe an extra raise to cover the cost of medicare. For people depending totally on Social security, any raise in medicare is devastating to their well being.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
8. Yep
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 03:28 AM
Dec 2016

My wife will probably get a whopping $3 a month raise. I cover her insurance through work, luckily.

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