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Obama's strongest priority now seems to be the peaceful (Original Post) suffragette Dec 2016 OP
I don't think there is any more. femmocrat Dec 2016 #1
Sadly, I'm not thinking if something positive suffragette Dec 2016 #5
I wonder as well. I hope I live long enough to read the history book that details it. Hekate Dec 2016 #2
Me, too. And that we're okay by that point. suffragette Dec 2016 #6
Do you think it's possible he may be keeping mum until whathehell Dec 2016 #3
Doesn't seem like it. suffragette Dec 2016 #8
You mean judging by his demeanor right now? whathehell Dec 2016 #10
Actually, judging by his emphasis on hacking if DNC suffragette Dec 2016 #11
Yeah, I tuned in late to him, whathehell Dec 2016 #13
'Relaxed' is in his DNA, but I don't think he seems moonscape Dec 2016 #19
There is nothing he can do now Lurks Often Dec 2016 #4
He could have stressed more about impediments suffragette Dec 2016 #14
It has to be dealt with locally anyway loyalsister Dec 2016 #22
I think both federal and local are important for voting rights. I agree with what you have said here suffragette Dec 2016 #25
Pounding the drum about a fragile system would have done damage loyalsister Dec 2016 #28
Question of leverage, you know. malthaussen Dec 2016 #7
Which raises the question of who does. suffragette Dec 2016 #15
Internally? Those in the GOP who would raise holy hell... malthaussen Dec 2016 #16
True that. suffragette Dec 2016 #18
I'm sickened. LisaM Dec 2016 #9
It's not surprising to see him take this path. I imagine he regards it as his duty suffragette Dec 2016 #21
he should have learned that tactic SUCKS Skittles Dec 2016 #34
I agree that Bush Inc. should not have been let off, not only for what they did, but suffragette Dec 2016 #36
I expected nothing more. cwydro Dec 2016 #12
It's pretty much in line with what he's said since this election. suffragette Dec 2016 #20
Obama and Trump are both captives of the national security apparatus, although different factions FarCenter Dec 2016 #17
They certainly have influence, and agree that different factions are of the apparatus suffragette Dec 2016 #33
I am disappointed in Obama. milestogo Dec 2016 #23
Do people expect him to throw a tantrum? loyalsister Dec 2016 #24
No. Of course not. But he is a gifted orator, the best of this generation, and it would have been suffragette Dec 2016 #37
That is a message for his audience loyalsister Dec 2016 #40
With everybody suddenly agreeing with him and the CIA... polichick Dec 2016 #26
He probably realizes that the Republic is in grave danger Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #27
What else do you expect to have happen? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #29
Perhaps he is holding back because of classified info that he cannot reveal. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #30
he said AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #31
spinelessness Skittles Dec 2016 #32
Did he call for an Independent Counsel today? Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #35
Honestly? Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #38
"Very uncomfortable feeling." Yeah, me too. suffragette Dec 2016 #39

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. I don't think there is any more.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:19 PM
Dec 2016

This is it. He is off to Hawaii and then it will be doomsday in less than 5 weeks. We're screwn.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
10. You mean judging by his demeanor right now?
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:35 PM
Dec 2016

If so I'd have to agree. He so "relaxed", I half expect him to start yawning.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
19. 'Relaxed' is in his DNA, but I don't think he seems
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 06:53 PM
Dec 2016

content at all. And his activity now behind the scenes bespeaks of anything but sleeping.

Seems to me he's working nearly 'round the clock to shore up whatever he can.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
4. There is nothing he can do now
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:23 PM
Dec 2016

There is nothing in place that allows a new election and he can not remain in office past 1/20/2017 without declaring martial law which would result in a violent civil war.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
14. He could have stressed more about impediments
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:06 PM
Dec 2016

That kept people's from voting or having their vote counted.
Instead he is focusing on building bridges.
I get that. There is much that is valid there.
But that still leaves us with a deeply flawed election system that has significant problems.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
22. It has to be dealt with locally anyway
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 08:54 PM
Dec 2016

He can't tell counties what to do. There has to be action coming from grassroots and local democratic parties and elected officials (he did mention that, BTW).
If we want to do something about voting issues we need a massiv campaign to get our folks elected to county clerk and secretary of states offices.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
25. I think both federal and local are important for voting rights. I agree with what you have said here
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:30 PM
Dec 2016

About the importance of local action and that Obama can't direct how that works.

I do think he has a powerful voice and impact from that and could have used it it more to make the point that our system is fragile and could and should be much stronger.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
28. Pounding the drum about a fragile system would have done damage
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:40 PM
Dec 2016

People see no point in voting when they don't trust the mechanism. Planting ideas like that has consequences as we saw with Trump talking about a rigged election and a very low turnout.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
16. Internally? Those in the GOP who would raise holy hell...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:50 PM
Dec 2016

... if Mr Obama did anything to undercut their takeover of the government.

-- Mal

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
21. It's not surprising to see him take this path. I imagine he regards it as his duty
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 08:48 PM
Dec 2016

To calm the waters and to try to bridge the rift we have in our country.

The problem is that many of those across the rift from us do not have honorable intentions, far from it.

And they will work to make it even harder for us to have anything resembling fair elections.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
36. I agree that Bush Inc. should not have been let off, not only for what they did, but
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 12:57 AM
Dec 2016

Also for the precedents they set.

That opportunity to correct our path as a nation was lost and now we are set on another dark path. Even darker than Bush and Cheney with Trump in charge,

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
33. They certainly have influence, and agree that different factions are of the apparatus
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:31 PM
Dec 2016

Look to be pushing against each other.

I wonder if we'll ever know the extent of it.

It's remarkable that Comey and the FBI interfered in the way they did in the election.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
24. Do people expect him to throw a tantrum?
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 08:59 PM
Dec 2016

He's the POTUS! One of the most offensive things about Trump is I see no possibility of showing class or even the most basic manners.
I'd like to enjoy a president who is a decent person with grace for as long as we've got him.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
37. No. Of course not. But he is a gifted orator, the best of this generation, and it would have been
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 02:08 AM
Dec 2016

good to hear him speak with passion about the need for election reform in our country. He did speak to it a bit, but it seemed muted and in one instance would depend on Trump actually moving on that.

And we all know Trump is all about sticking the fears about phony voter fraud, while ignoring the real issues of voter suppression and legal and mechanical manipulation and fraud.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
40. That is a message for his audience
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 03:13 AM
Dec 2016

.... for us.
He was speaking to the press as president of everyone, even those who are never going to agree with us or him on anything but we would hope would take hacking of their country's computer system seriously.

An eloquent speech about voting rights is for and about Democrats because we are the ones who support greater access. Bringing up a generally partisan Democratic agenda for repubicans to argue against defeats today's goal.

It was not a rally-the-troops campaign speech. Nor should it have been.

Stoking hysteria about voting machines is the republican equivilent of republican scare tactics. I hope he never jumps on that paranoid train.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
27. He probably realizes that the Republic is in grave danger
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:35 PM
Dec 2016

But he is too late. Democracy has already fallen an the Republicans lead the charge

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
29. What else do you expect to have happen?
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:41 PM
Dec 2016

Things suck something awful, but at least so far, everything is proceeding legally/Constitutionally as it should.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
30. Perhaps he is holding back because of classified info that he cannot reveal.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:42 PM
Dec 2016

I can't believe that he isn't as outraged as the rest of us. We're not going to ever hold hands with these neocons and Trumpsters and sing kumbaya. Not gonna happen.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
31. he said
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:56 PM
Dec 2016

before he leaves office, CIA report will be released. We can only hope that it could lead to some sort of bipartisan movement against russian interference and fake news...

He did a great job as president, the future of the party is in our hands now.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
38. Honestly?
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 02:35 AM
Dec 2016

I am wondering.
Have we experienced a coup?
I read Obama has moved out of the WH to allow trumps to move in.
I just have a very uncomfortable feeling about all of this.

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