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(13,915 posts)
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 04:50 PM Dec 2016

OK, can someone suggest a different website?

I'm not abandoning DU, but I'm aching to talk about next steps, leaders to follow, ideas to change the landscape, but when I post such things I usually get 0 replies. I've concluded that the crowd here, is, for the most part, not into this approach. Are there other places where I could get involved? I've tried the Activism forum on DU, but it's comatose. An example of a no-replies post is this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028372441

Thanks in advance.

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(14,905 posts)
4. I looked around the other day after reading...
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:08 PM
Dec 2016

... a reply that this place is (paraphrasing) a pro-Democratic site, not a pro-liberal one.

I didn't find much out there that appealed to me, to be honest. Some of the "liberal" sites didn't seem moderated at all and were full of raging racists, with others wasting their time debating them. Some sites simply didn't have much action, with long breaks between new posts.

Then I decided this place is probably the best for me... sort of like how I vote for politicians despite never fully agreeing with their ideas.


(59,617 posts)
7. I am hopeful that time will change and many will join you in your call for actions
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 06:08 PM
Dec 2016

The election was a huge shock and the future looks worse than I have ever seen it. I think people are still reeling and not yet up to where you are. This also follows 8 years when we made historic progress on everything from health care, gay rights, climate change, some regulation of banks and lower rates on student loans. The fear is ALL of this and maybe more will be lost.

After every election, there has been a period of mourning which I would venture to suggest that the depth and length of it might be a function of whether we already had to some degree thought it a likely possiblity and how bad the alternative was. I was devastated after 2004, because I really thought (and still think) that John Kerry was an extremely good alternative and, though I thought it a long shot until he surged at the end, I really was amazed how relieved I felt when the good exit polls came out mid day. Many even were happy that Bush, not Kerry, would be blamed when we left Iraq without it becoming a glorious democracy as the neo cons promised. Yet by Thanksgiving, a favororite in law smiling an ever brightening smile, said," but in 4 years we can elect HRC."

I think of my inability to respond and the fact that I clearly was not past Bush being reelected and never having a President Kerry with his incredible wife as first lady. Most of the people still here were not just for a Democrat, many had waited for decades for Hillary Clinton to be the first woman President. At this point, many of them seek what really brought me to DU was that the DU JK group was a community that I needed at that point. They are not yet ready to move on. In 2004, after the election, the main forum - where Kerry was routinely attacked was not a safe place. People were far more willing to move on -- and the goal was winning 2006 and winning in 2008.

2016 was an incredibly strange election with the FBI investigation, Russian spying and a bizzare Republican nominee. There is pessismism that we can do well in 2018. That needs to change. In 2006, we were not predicted to be able to win back the Senate majority, but we nearly ran the table and got to 51 seats. Another difference is that the thought was that we had a wealth of possibilities for 2008. That created optimisim. There is now a perception that we have no power at all in the the incoming government. That ignores that we can push for change in our states and in our cities. We also need to actively fight Trump and the Republican Congress.

I suspect that each step of grief is harder this time and we are in the middle of that grieving period. Possibly after the January, more of DU will be back to fighting bad legislation and working to move forward.


(13,915 posts)
8. Thanks for this thoughtful response. I'll definitely keep a watch...
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 06:38 PM
Dec 2016

... on DU for folks of your ilk to come out of your depression and help us all think about ways to move on.



(47,209 posts)
19. I think that this post describes a lot of us right now....
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 09:32 PM
Dec 2016

I feel like I can't get past the grieving until after the ... you know. I need six weeeks more before I can cope much.


(14,905 posts)
10. I'm extremely depressed unless I mostly ignore the warning signs.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 07:00 PM
Dec 2016

I'm already blind in one eye and I'll lose eyesight in the other one eventually.

Trump keeps appointing people with a history of opposing social programs, and I expect to be homeless someday if programs like disability and HUD apartments are cut. Why not expect it based on their language?

I don't have family to help me. I get suicidal thoughts sometimes when I hear conservatives and sense that they're winning the battle to slowly kill vulnerable people like me.

My oldest brother is blind and also single, but he gets government aid to keep him alive and sheltered. At least he appreciates it! It's also depressing to hear his fellow baby boomers at that HUD apartment who keep supporting Republicans. They either don't think the social programs they receive will ever go away, or they're simply taking a collective crap on younger people in this country because they don't really care about the well-being of others.


(29,211 posts)
11. I'm doing this work through local grassroots.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 07:06 PM
Dec 2016

I voted locally with OurRevolution.

And I belong to an anti-discrimination group
that is going to be active in state and local politics,
as well as figuring out how to start a fund for
victims of discrimination.


(109,177 posts)
15. The Pantsuit Nation group on FB has many state chapters
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 07:43 PM
Dec 2016

where people are discussing this. Are you a member?

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