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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,226 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:58 PM Dec 2016

A humble reminder for my DU friends in California.

As of the most recent numbers, 4,483,810 people in California voted for Donald Trump.

True, just about double voted for Secretary Clinton and the margin of victory for Secretary Clinton was much higher than it was in most other states, but still, there's 4,483,810 individual human beings in California who voted for Donald Trump.

You can spin that out as falling to certain geographic areas within the state, but still, 4,483,810 people in California voted for Donald Trump.

I'm saying this not to bash California. Hell, I'm extremely glad that Secretary Clinton won by such a large margin in the state and I could only wish that others had mimicked those results.

But I've noticed a creeping--albeit mostly unintentional--trend to act as though California is completely immune from the clutches of Trumpism, or that California gets it right where other states don't, and that's just not true. Trumpism has infected all 50 states of this union, and has to be dealt with in all 50 states of this union.

So, with all due respect (and it is respect), I would ask to cool it a bit on the whole patronizing "California gets it and you don't" deal. This is a nationwide problem that affects all of us. We're all in this together.

Same can be said for New York.

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A humble reminder for my DU friends in California. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 OP
Hillary won 7 GOP districts in CA I believe in the house but the Dems could not win them. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #1
And worst of all, Grand Theft Issa squeaked through to another term (probably two more) tenorly Dec 2016 #2
CA is a very diverse state.... mike_c Dec 2016 #3
You are SO right. narnian60 Dec 2016 #4
Trump won non-college educated whites 59-36 in California Dems to Win Dec 2016 #5
The biggest CA boosters seem to be people who HeartachesNhangovers Dec 2016 #6
Ex Floridian here-raised in exurban Central Florida. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #7
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. Hillary won 7 GOP districts in CA I believe in the house but the Dems could not win them.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:01 PM
Dec 2016

Issa!

2018 should be fun for Dems now that they know who to target!

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
2. And worst of all, Grand Theft Issa squeaked through to another term (probably two more)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:08 PM
Dec 2016

I lived in his district (S Orange/N San Diego counties), and to many White voters there the Democrats are still "the party of the Hispanics" - though that's normally not the term they'd use.

Let's face it: the GOP has succeeded in branding itself as "the party for White people" - and even miserable rednecks who don't have a pot to cook on believe it and love them for it.

Until we can somehow get people past racial politics, we'll always have an uphill struggle. Worse yet, we as a nation will always careen from GOP-created crisis to crisis, with Democratic presidents as mere interludes to govern just long enough for the nation to heal a little before the next disaster.

Definitely not the fate our Founding Fathers envisioned.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
3. CA is a very diverse state....
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:09 PM
Dec 2016

Dems have a super majority in CA state government, but this is also the state that gave us Nixon and Reagan. There are quite conservative enclaves in CA, both rural and urban.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
5. Trump won non-college educated whites 59-36 in California
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:43 PM
Dec 2016

According to cnn exit polls http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/california/president

If only whites had voted in California, Clinton would have still won, 50 - 45, but it wouldn't have been a blowout. More like Minnesota.

California's electorate is only 48% white, though, and Hillary won POC 73 - 21. So overall, Hillary won BIG!

As a Californian who loves my home, I won't claim Californians are any smarter than people in fine states like Colorado. Our numbers look so different because of the demographics, which affected the vote in every state.

6. The biggest CA boosters seem to be people who
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:03 PM
Dec 2016

don't actually live there. While the love is appreciated, residents know that everything isn't peachy: very high poverty levels when you consider housing costs, state revenue that tanks whenever the stock market has an extended drop (since CA income tax is highly dependent on high-income people whose income is closely tied to successful IPOs and equity markets), horrible roads and traffic, state colleges that are increasingly out of reach for residents, among others.

My wife and I lived there all our lives but bailed rather than have to work an extra 10 years to be able to afford a house anywhere near the places we knew best.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
7. Ex Floridian here-raised in exurban Central Florida.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:37 PM
Dec 2016

I am going downtown later.... I will take the Orange Line from Woodland Hills to NoHo and then the red line from NoHo to Seventh and Fig. I can shout at the top of my lungs Trump sucks and I will get Hosannas. I saw people with Hillary shirts the days after the election doing as much...

In fact I wish I had a dollar for every stranger I walked up to after the election and said "thank God I live in a blue state."

Can't speak for all of Cali but greater L A is as blue as you can get.


Even on the NY subways you would get some shit...Not saying there aren't Deplorables in the midst but they keep their deplorabilism to themselves.

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