Truck driver said to have come as a refugee to Germany (Pakistani)

[FarCenter]

At Berlin Breitscheidplatz at the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church, where a large Christmas market takes place, is driven a truck on a sidewalk on Monday evening. There are nine dead and dozens injured. The alleged driver was arrested, the passenger of the truck is dead after police information. According to information from Die Welt the driver is a Pakistani refugee.

A spokesman for the Berlin police says there will be an investigation into whether it is an accident or an attack. "We do not have any clear indications, either in one direction or the other." For Berliners and visitors to the city, there was no danger. "The situation is safe."

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/live160453735/Lkw-Fahrer-soll-als-Fluechtling-nach-Deutschland-gekommen-sein.html

Part of Merkel's failed policies

[uppityperson]

1. I've read other places that they have not determined who the driver was.

[FarCenter]

6. Sicherheitskreise: Festgenommener nach mglichem Anschlag ist Afghane oder Pakistani

Sicherheitskreise: Festgenommener ist Afghane oder Pakistani
vor 2 Stunden von Frank Jansen
Nach Angaben aus Sicherheitskreisen handelt es sich bei dem am Abend Festgenommenen um einen Afghanen oder Pakistani. Er soll den LKW gefahren haben, den er laut den Informationen aus Sicherheitskreisen in Polen gestohlen habe. Den Ermittlern soll der Mann bekannt sein, allerdings nicht wegen eines terroristischen Hintergrunds, sondern wegen kleinerer krimineller Delikte. Außerdem soll die Person mehrere Alias-Personalien besitzen.
Wie genau der LKW in seine Hände gekommen ist, ist unklar. Ursprünglich war der Wagen nach Angaben des polnischen Spediteurs auf dem Weg aus Italien nach Berlin. Die Spedition hat ihren Sitz in Sobiemysl, südlich von Stettin rund 180 Kilometer von Berlin entfernt.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/newsblog-breitscheidplatz-in-berlin-charlottenburg-sicherheitskreise-festgenommener-nach-moeglichem-anschlag-ist-afghane-oder-pakistani/19154174.html

Die Welt is also reporting this.

[FarCenter]

9. Arrived in February

German news outlets "Die Welt" and DPA, citing security sources, reported that a man suspected to be the driver who was taken into custody earlier is a registered refugee from Afghanistan or Pakistan. The man reportedly arrived in Germany in February and used several names.

http://www.dw.com/en/truck-drives-into-crowd-at-berlin-christmas-market-several-fatalities-live-updates/a-36838008

[riversedge]

2. Why do you say failed policies of Merkel???

[Calculating]

4. They're literally driving EU to the hard right

People cannot be expected to tolerate all of this without backlash.

[Generator]

5. 9 dead people

400 hundred thousand or so in Syria. But hey they can't be expected to "take" it. This is a medium bad day for gun shooting in America. Her policies were part of actually paying for WW2-and all the bad shit they did to millions. Who is responsible for Syria? This guy was Pakistani? Only Christian lives matter. That worked (kinda) during the last world war as well.

That church is actually one I have seen. They left its ruins to remind the people. Oh irony.

[Johnathan146]

8. German presidents care about german lives

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This shouldnt be a suprise. Yes there are lots of dead in Syria, which has nothing to do with germany.

[romanic]

10. Excuses.

Nothing but excuses.

[oberliner]

11. 12 people were killed

48 wounded, many critically.

[melman]

12. Wow

This post is loaded to the brim with bullshit. I mean you really hit a lot of bases here..

This doesn't matter because --

- not enough people were killed

- Syria

- guns in America

- Germans deserve it because WW II

- Islamophobia or something

- Christians

- Germans really deserve it PT 2, still because WWII

[WilliamH1474]

15. What is wrong with you

Just how many causalities does it take, to make it unacceptable?

This is partially why we lost this election.

We have for far to long tried to explain it away and justify the horrific actions of some bad people. It personally rubs me the wrong way when something like this happens, and the first thing that we as Democrats do is pray that the responsible party was not Muslim instead of trying to stop the next attack. It also does not help to scream about Christian radicals, because a good part of the country is Christian and most will immediately think "Jee I have never heard about a decon beheading someone for not passing the tithing plate or skipping Sunday school" and will probably think you are a raving lunatic.

When 99% of the country see's something like this, and then hears the killer yell something about Allah or ISIS and then we come out and try to say that the "intentions can't be known" we just end up looking like idiots.

Seriously man, leave the echo chamber for just a few minutes and step out into the real world. You will find that people are scared, and looking for someone to say that their fears are valid, and that there is a plan to stop the killing/terrorism. (Even if it is a lunatics plan, that makes no sense)

Because when only one side is promising you that your family will be safe, and the other is screaming about "this is not what it looks like" you get a Dumbf as President.

[uponit7771]

17. We pray its not Muslims because the right scapegoats them in the US vs white males like they're

... supposed to seeing most of the terrorist acts historically is from white males in the US.

People can be scared and the left not feed into the bigotry at the same time... its not either or

[riversedge]

7. I think Merkel is trying her best to keep the hard Right out of Germany's policies.

[cwydro]

13. Seriously?

Wow.

[LanternWaste]

20. We tolerate app. violent 11,000 deaths a year from our own countrymen without backlash

We tolerate app. violent 11,000 deaths a year from our own countrymen without backlash, yet are consistently told that to bring it up would cost us elections.

However, as relatively few of the perpetrators are Muslim and wouldn't fit the current narrative, I absolutely understand why it would be ignored.

[Jake Stern]

3. And we seem so shocked at how far-right populist parties like AfD and Jobbik (Hungary) are growing

Or how the National Front's Marine Le Pen has a real shot at winning the French Presidency for the first time.

Like it or not people are getting pissed at refugees who come to their country and then pull shit like this.

[LeftyMom]

14. Jobbik was strong before the refugee crisis.

It's just given them more fashionable people to hate than their usual targets.

[uponit7771]

16. WTF does Merkel have to do with some bullshit like this? Sounds like FUD no? tia

[RandiFan1290]

18. Disgusting bigots

So many are more concerned about where the driver was from than any of the victims.

Hypocritical bigoted scumbags!

[JustinL]

19. UPDATE: the Pakistani ayslum seeker has been released

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/20/berlin-christmas-market-attack-suspect-pakistan-live-coverage

German prosecutors say the man who was arrested after the truck attack has been released because of insufficient evidence.

The man, named as Naved B, a 23-year-old asylum seeker from Pakistan, was arrested after he was seen leaving the scene of the attack. However, police expressed doubts about whether the man they had arrested was indeed the person responsible for the attack.

Michael Behrendt, a reporter with Die Welt, who first reported police doubts that they had the perpetrator, said one main reason the police were fairly certain early on they had not got the right man was the fact that he had no blood traces on him when he was apprehended immediately after the attack, whereas the truck cab was full of blood.

The release of Naved B from custody may mean the driver of the truck is still at large, with fears that police do not know who is responsible for the attack.