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I can't help but wonder what action the Rump supporters are going to take when they realize (Original Post) BigBearJohn Dec 2016 OP
It will be blamed on the Democrats Sherman A1 Dec 2016 #1
Even if he shoots someone on 5th avenue? nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #2
He won't shoot anybody. His Palace Guard will do that. DetlefK Dec 2016 #4
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6
Yup Sherman A1 Dec 2016 #9
*ESPECIALLY* if he shoots someone on 5th avenue 0rganism Dec 2016 #31
they will lie zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #13
Exactly, wash, rinse, repeat. Littlered9560 Dec 2016 #19
Yep. And then they'll vote for Ted Cruz (who actually MEANS it) Volaris Dec 2016 #28
There are 3 kinds of Trump-voters: DetlefK Dec 2016 #3
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #7
They will be angry... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #30
They will do nothing. The conned rarely do... Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #5
What do the religious do when they stopbush Dec 2016 #8
Ding ding ding pfitz59 Dec 2016 #12
This nil desperandum Dec 2016 #23
Yup, that's about it. trotsky Dec 2016 #27
They will get very upset and blame .. ananda Dec 2016 #10
At his FU rally in Cincy, Pence promised more trade deals Kolesar Dec 2016 #11
Their anger and rage will be directed at scapegoats chosen by Trump strategists. jalan48 Dec 2016 #14
Yep. Trump will point to the villain and the mob will descend. nt Nay Dec 2016 #29
They'll deny that they ever were his supporters and claim they were against him all along. Towlie Dec 2016 #15
It took up to 6 years for many with shrub salin Dec 2016 #16
I made a list of his promises that wont be kept for a few of my friends 7962 Dec 2016 #17
Their dumazz's probably won't notice because his name is not Obama. Stellar Dec 2016 #18
all he has to do... Locrian Dec 2016 #20
Depressed, angry and betrayed. Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #21
Many will disappear back under the rocks from whence they came. BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #22
Trump will just lie, and the rubes will believe him RussBLib Dec 2016 #24
Lock Hillary up. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #25
None. And they'll hate you for pointing it out to them CanonRay Dec 2016 #26

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. It will be blamed on the Democrats
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:03 AM
Dec 2016

and spun by the media to be convincing. It will never be Trump's or the GOP's fault.

0rganism

(23,952 posts)
31. *ESPECIALLY* if he shoots someone on 5th avenue
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

that person was a dangerous thug
Trump was at great personal risk, he had to shoot back
isn't it great to have a president who's so proactive? Obama would have just given his wallet away
etcetera

 

Littlered9560

(72 posts)
19. Exactly, wash, rinse, repeat.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 09:50 AM
Dec 2016

It's a repeating pattern. These people aren't smart enough to know any better. Which goes back to not wasting time trying to convert these types. Never gonna happen.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. There are 3 kinds of Trump-voters:
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:09 AM
Dec 2016

They are already making up excuses why bringing in billionaires means "draining the swamp".

Some voted for him because they support his dark side.
They will be angry.

Some voted for him because they believed his optimistic promises.
They will be angry.

Some voted for him just out of spite against the overall political system.
They will stay loyal to him, because all they want in return for their loyalty is a target for their hatred.

Wounded Bear

(58,653 posts)
30. They will be angry...
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:42 PM
Dec 2016

The problem is, they will direct their anger where their handlers on Faux and the alt-right tell them to, at Democrats.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
5. They will do nothing. The conned rarely do...
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:18 AM
Dec 2016

The ignorance is too ingrained. The Stupid, too deep.

For those who normally have what could pass for intelligence but is really love of "power" and money over humanity and compassion, the shame of what they have enabled will probably keep them silent.

And those who knew exactly what they were voting for will welcome the destruction from hate-filled hearts.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
8. What do the religious do when they
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:44 AM
Dec 2016

figure out that their beliefs are based entirely on make believe?

95% of them will double down on the make believe. 4% will pretend that they continue to believe. Maybe 1% will decide to change their life view.

I'm guessing the percentages are about the same when it comes to political beliefs, especially when those beliefs - like religion - are based on make believe.

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
23. This
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 12:05 PM
Dec 2016

is a really good assessment of how it all works, no one wants to be wrong with a belief system. Many will cling to it for no reason other than it's comfortable and familiar even if it's based on fantasy as you suggest.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
27. Yup, that's about it.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:30 PM
Dec 2016

I am reminded of one clear example of this during the campaign.

Recall that the GOP was the party of WAR in 2003. Iraq, Iraq, Iraq. Gotta get Saddam. Gotta stop his WMD program. Anyone who questioned the war was a traitor. And so on. All the Trumpsters were on board with that.

Fast forward to 2016 and one of the attacks on Clinton was the fact that she had voted for the Iraq War - and Trump's base of fools lapped it right up. Cheered when he said (falsely of course) that he had always opposed it.

Right there - night and day. The Iraq War went from being our solemn patriotic duty to support, to something that was an albatross around the neck of the candidate of the other party. Yet I guarantee you not one Trumpster had a moment of cognitive dissonance. They repeat what they are told. Thinking not only NOT required, it's actively suppressed.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
11. At his FU rally in Cincy, Pence promised more trade deals
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:09 AM
Dec 2016

I am sure that did not get a lot of publicity on the forums for those with collective halitosis.

jalan48

(13,864 posts)
14. Their anger and rage will be directed at scapegoats chosen by Trump strategists.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:25 AM
Dec 2016

To admit Trump is a failure means they must admit they erred in their judgment, which they won't do. Trump will point in a direction and they will follow.

salin

(48,955 posts)
16. It took up to 6 years for many with shrub
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:42 AM
Dec 2016

they have great capacity for denial and shifting views of reality to keep rescripting (how they read) actual events to fit a narrative, until they just can't. For many, I imagine it will take an equally long time.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
17. I made a list of his promises that wont be kept for a few of my friends
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:45 AM
Dec 2016

There are many beers & pizzas coming my way over the next year, I'm sure

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
20. all he has to do...
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 10:06 AM
Dec 2016

is continue to be "not an elite" in their vision, and they'll continue to support him

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-political-theorist-predicted-the-rise-of-trumpism-his-name-was-hunter-s-thompson/.


Understood in those terms, the idea that Trumpism is “populist” seems misplaced. Populism is a belief in the right of ordinary people, rather than political insiders, to rule. Trumpism, by contrast, operates on the presumption that ordinary people aren’t going to get any chance to rule no matter what they do, so they might as well piss off the political insiders using the only tool left available to them: the vote.

While many commentators say Trump will have to bring back jobs or vibrancy to places like the Rust Belt if he wants to continue to have the support of people who voted for him, Thompson’s account suggests otherwise. Many if not most Trump supporters long ago gave up on the idea that any politician, even someone like Trump, can change the direction the wind is blowing. Even if he fails to bring back the jobs, Trump can maintain loyalty in another way: As long as he continues to offend and irritate elites, and as long as he refuses to play by certain rules of decorum—heaven forfend, the president-elect says ill-conceived things on Twitter!—Trump will still command loyalty. It’s the ethic, not the policy, that matters most.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
21. Depressed, angry and betrayed.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 10:13 AM
Dec 2016

I helped a trump supporter yesterday learn some things they did not know. The man I was talking with got real quiet and then said, "I didn't know." He was visibly altered by the knowledge. Topic: EPA disaster & that his hated ObamaCare was not fixed because of repubs refusal to play nice.

RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
24. Trump will just lie, and the rubes will believe him
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 12:09 PM
Dec 2016

and blame any failures on Democrats, of course.

The Dems should become stiff opposition, but I'm afraid they just don't have it in them.

I can't wait to retire so I can focus on other things.

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