Democrats to Hillary: Thanks you but it's time to hang it up.

[RandySF]

PERSONAL NOTE: I am proud to have supported Hillary, but we're all getting old and it's time for us to move on.



A majority of Democratic and independent voters made clear that they don’t foresee Hillary Clinton in their 2020 vision of the presidential election, according to a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released on Wednesday.

Sixty-two percent of Democrats and independents surveyed said the twice-failed presidential candidate shouldn’t mount another campaign in 2020, and only 23 percent would be excited by her campaign if she did.

The two people they would most like to see are two of the most prominent Democratic-aligned politicians unlikely to seek the White House in 2020: Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Vice President Joe Biden. Forty-four percent and 43 percent of those voters, respectively, said they would be excited to see Sanders and Biden run.

Sanders challenged Clinton for the Democratic nomination, but it’s unlikely that the 75-year-old independent senator would mount another White House bid. However, he has said he plans to run for reelection to his Senate seat in 2018.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/poll-democrats-independents-no-hillary-clinton-2020-232898

[uponit7771]

1. I pray she doesn't hang it up, more America likes her than Benedict Donald and her progressive

... work is a main stay in the DNC.

She has a role to play and I pray after a good break she plays it to the bone... no doubt

[Cha]

114. Agree!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

10. Like 75 year old Sanders?

Not saying that's your stance but it seems to be the one of many others who say "we need new blood."

[bravenak]

3. And the other two need to hang it up too

[Caliman73]

13. I agree.

It isn't only about Hillary. She is a wonderful public servant, as have been the other two. I think that Hillary is a wonderful example to young women and young men, for the next generation. Bernie is good where he is, in the Senate representing Vermont and perhaps pushing a new crop of progressive politicians out into the world. Biden has also been great in the Senate and as Vice President. Any of the 3 are good examples of public service. I think as Democrats however, we need to focus on building up a new generation of representatives and not keep running the same candidates.

[bravenak]

19. Exactly. You are spot on

[smirkymonkey]

74. I agree as well.

We need to usher in the new guard. They are all great Democrats, but I don't think we are going to win with them.

[mcar]

33. I hope Hillary has a long and healthy retirement

She has been a devoted public service and stateswoman. I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy what this country put her through.

[Ilsa]

35. Well said.

She's worked hard to make life better for so many people, and many of them have no appreciation for what she's been through just to help others. She may be one of the strongest people I "know", not just women.

[mcar]

38. Yes

My heart is still broken that she will not be our next president, but I love hearing that she's hiking and spending time with her grand babies.

[brush]

79. I don't think Hillary has any plans to run again. She know how to bow out gracefully, plus . . .

she can take satisfaction in knowing she actually won 48% to 46% in a stolen election.

[bravenak]

95. Yep. She should enjoy her time

Nobody should have to deal with that shit. Certainly not her.

[mcar]

96. She handled it with such grace

I'd have had a stroke, suppressing all my rage. I admire her so much.

[treestar]

98. Exactly!

They will be on their late 70s!

[BeyondGeography]

4. What about Mondale?

He'll only be 92.

[progressoid]

28. No shit.

Let's get some fresh faces in there.

[trotsky]

5. In 2020...

Hillary will be 73.
Joe will be 78.
Bernie will be 79.

[awoke_in_2003]

44. And all three are primary (and one general) losers...

we need to find some more talent.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

89. Warren will be 71....

Eventually (to the horror of many in the DLC) the young people will take over.

Then again, there's always Caroline Kennedy:

Then:


Now:

[musicblind]

135. I'm kind of keeping an eye on Cory Booker.

But the election is so far away, who knows who will run.

There are rising stars in the Democratic party. Don't let the current "narrative" fool you. Before the election, and before the media narrative changed, the New York Times did a list of 14 rising stars in the Democratic party... and that list didn't even include Cory Booker. There are a lot of people out there.

[Mike Nelson]

6. I would say, instead...

...thank you Hillary, Bernie and Joe! I'm proud of them and hope none "hang it up" anytime soon.

[loyalsister]

7. Harsh title but we do need someone new on the scene

A fresh face getting back to basics, for example? I don't know who is out there, but I hope to see someone in their early 40s start building a reputation. Maybe a govenor?

[PhilosopherKing]

15. Jason Kander

is promising.

[loyalsister]

17. I was so disappointed to see him lose

He's charismatic, likable, and smart. Taking the reins of the state party might be a good place for him to springboard into an office in 2018.

[pstokely]

132. MO Dem party already has a new guy

Stephen Webber

[loyalsister]

134. Oh that's right

I was hoping he would be my senator.

[Me.]

30. Someone Who Never Won A National Office

Is not ready for prime time

[lastlib]

83. FDR, Ike, Jimmy C., and even St. Ronnie might disagree.....

...as would a host of others who I'm too dead to think of off the cuff. Abraham Lincoln lost a US Senate election before he was elected President. (I could add Shrub, but hell, he wasn't ready for prime-time even when we shipped his ugly butt back to Texas.)

[Me.]

93. You Are Right About Them

Those were different times and nowadays a candidate needs a national profile/portfolio. And just for the record, bad as he was Shrub was at least a governor and had a mighty machine, if ugly, behind him. I fear most people would spend a national election saying "Who?"

[RegexReader]

122. then what do you tell the people ready to vote for Michelle Obama?

[Me.]

123. I Wouldn't Tell Them Anything

First off, she said she would never run

Second...If anyone has a better national profile than Michelle Obama I've never heard of them. Also, I think we can all agree she has been tested by fire and exceeded all expectations. She has it all going on.

[pstokely]

131. no name recognition outside of MO

nt

[Warren DeMontague]

8. We need to look beyond East Coast/beltway baby boomers, maybe.

Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris are two names I would suggest people watch.

[Me.]

32. We Haven't Exactly Been Running East Coasters

Arkansas, Kentucky, Chicago w/Kerry maybe being the odd man out.

[Warren DeMontague]

94. You mean Tennessee, for Al Gore?

despite being born in Park Ridge, Hillary was the Senator from New York. And Chicago isn't exactly the frontier. My point is, there's an orbit around the beltway and the West Coast seems pretty well forgotten- as evidenced by the way our East Coast party leadership (notwithstanding the votes in Mass. and Maine, which hopefully will telegram a clue or two) establishment types still treat pot legalization as some odd fringe position, despite the fact that 50 million people all up and down the entire fucking other side of the country have voted for it.

I mean, look, I get it. People in the music or film industry have a tough time if they don't actually live in LA, too. You're just not at the locus of where shit is happening.

But when's the last time we had someone from west of the Rockies on the Presidential ticket? Ask yourself that.

[Me.]

107. I Stand Corrected On Gore

Don't know what I was thinking.

AS for west coasters, I don't remember, offhand, many running, aside from Gov. Brown and Senator Hart, on the dem side

[Warren DeMontague]

117. Hart was 32 years ago, of course.

And neither he nor Jerry Brown ever ended up on the ticket.

My point is, we need a broader bench. And broader should include Gen X and younger as well as west coasters.

[Me.]

125. I Agree About Inclusion

But not exclusion

[Caliman73]

9. Hillary is great, Bernie is great, and uncle Joe is great

They have all done wonderful things for the country and are good progressive politicians. That said, I don't think that we need to run a 73 (Clinton), 78 (Biden), or 79 (Sanders) year old for president. There needs to be a new generation of progressive politicians who are not part of the 60's, who have a different sense of history and are leading from a different perspective.

[RiverStone]

52. 1+

Agree!

[LeftofObama]

11. I would like to see Hillary, Bernie, and Joe get behind either Al Franken or Kamala Harris in 2020.

We need new blood and we all need to get behind our candidate ASAP!

[mopinko]

18. franken is an obvious pick.

especially since we now know that what voters want is to be entertained.

[LeftofObama]

22. Agreed.

He can deliver one liners better than any of them. He's exactly what we need!

[mopinko]

24. has a good grasp of the facts, too.

i used to love him on air america.

[PoliticAverse]

61. And dogonit people like him...

[mopinko]

119. ikr?

sadly, in this day and age that is probably more than enough. only seems to work for the thugs, tho.

[tclambert]

80. That's a good one. He has experience with hecklers, too.

Imagine the debates between Franken and Trump. Al would make Donald into a laughingstock. Exactly what the Trump deserves. Hillary just didn't have the comedic skill to drive the stake in.

[uponit7771]

90. +1, but will he run?!

[mopinko]

118. i wouldnt be at all surprised.

certainly havent heard any reasons why he wouldnt/shouldnt.
lord know he would have hollywood behind him.

[SixString]

12. DU Rec.

[frazzled]

14. Jayzus, what a stupid article

and a stupid poll. First of all, to all intents and purposes, Clinton has in fact "hung it up." There is no indication she has any plans to run for president again. Most of all, she would be too old.

And Sanders and Biden? Oh right, we really need some even OLDER men to run.

Get a grip, folks: these kinds of polls, four years out, are entirely meaningless.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

124. Bernie, with his loyal following, should not be underestimated...

not surprised Bernie is a "fan favorite" at this early stage. Hopefully, he'll continue to grow in popularity as he takes the lead role in the fight against the Fuhrer-Elect.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[frazzled]

127. I think the danger is rather in ...

overestimating Sanders. In a normal year, he wouldn't have stood a chance at getting past the first few primaries. It's only because there was only one other candidate, with a heap of hyperbolic hate thrown at he,r that people latched on to him as some sort of sainted hero. He's not.

And sorry, but an 80-year-old man with 60-year-old ideas is not going to be a candidate in 2020. Not gonna happen.

Besides, I am totally not interested in the next presidential election. We just finished one and there are eleventy-seven deeply significant things to worry about in our political climate at the moment, and for the next 4 years. Wake me up in 2018 1/2.

[zippythepinhead]

137. No they're not

The early bird gets the worm.

[LonePirate]

16. She should be the face of a new voter registration campaign and fight against voter suppression.

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She is immensely popular among Democrats and she won an overwhelming majority of votes from urban and suburban areas. She is the perfect person to channel Democratic energy and anger into obtaining new voters and building the party among women and minorities, especially in the southeast and southwest.

[Caliman73]

43. Hillary, Obama, Sanders, etc...

Should be going out to motivate Democrats now, not just before the elections, but now. We need to be thinking about policy and politics before the elections and cultivating a new crop of interested, civic minded people who will represent Democratic values in the next generation.

[LonePirate]

46. I couldn't agree more. Take some time to overcome the campaign stress then she needs to get to work!

I can give Bernie a pass as he will be in the Senate. However both Barack and Michelle Obama could join Hillary in that task.

[mdbl]

86. Agreed. This is the only thing that might break that majority of repuglican morons

We need to start now.

[uponit7771]

92. +1...perfect

[lunatica]

20. Too soon

The wounds haven't even started healing.

[ElementaryPenguin]

21. Stupid article

She gets ROBBED so she positively sucks, right?

[LenaBaby61]

36. She gets ROBBED so she positively sucks, right?

IKR ...

PLUS ...

WHO knows how badly Dems will be damaged by a tRumputin DOJ who will be rubber-stamping voter-suppression/voter disenfranchisement, cross-checking, purging of Dem voter rolls on steroids. AND on top of all of that, whose to KNOW if a tRumputin DOJ won't be "looking past or even encouraging" more cyber-hacking by russia into the 2018 mid-terms AND again into the 2020 GE?

Personally, I'm not very trusting of and scared to my core about what could happen as it relates to voter suppression on steroids under a tRumputin DOJ. My God, what if more cyber-hacking by russian/putin IS allowed to happen to Dems during a tRumputin DOJ.

[brooklynite]

23. Since she wasn't planning to run for anything else, I don't know why this message was necessary.

[CousinIT]

31. Bingo. It's an insult thinly disguised as a "poll"

It's frankly abusive.

[Paladin]

57. An insult disguised as a poll. Couldn't agree with you more.

What a shitty way to treat a genuine Democratic heroine.

[emulatorloo]

39. Just another excuse to kick her while she's down.

[crosinski]

25. Hillary to Democrats: Sorry, but I'm not your Grammy

Hillary gave it her honest to God best shot, got the shit knocked out of her by a republican party that thinks palling around with Putin is okey dokey, and then she got back up with dignity and grace.

She's an American Hero in my eyes. She can do whatever she wants to do next, and she doesn't need anyone's approval.

[Caliman73]

45. She did not get the shit kicked out of her.

We need to stop saying that. There are a lot of reasons why she lost. Some are the fault of the campaign, some are the fault of Democratic voters, some are because of the right wing smear campaign of the last 30 years and their dirty tactics (including the hacking and the voter suppression).

Clinton has been a good public servant and she should be venerated. That does not mean we can't talk about differences in policy or disagreements, but she is a ground breaking politician, who did not get the shit kicked out of her.

The Democratic party needs to look at its platform and messaging and figure out how to fight back against what the right wingers have done and plan to do to the country.

[Madam45for2923]

49. Thank You!

[Me.]

26. This Is Not The First Time They Have Run An Article Like This

Excuse me but I'm not about to take advice from Politico and frankly, I will not support the Dem party if they ever allow a non dem to run again.

[radical noodle]

104. I'm with you

I am angry as hell at Trump and his supporters, but it doesn't come close to how I feel about certain people who pretended to be Dems and gave this election to the crazies (and btw, who still think Trump is ever so much better than Hillary). I'm done with them and with their cult leader.

[spin]

27. Surely in the Democratic Party there must be someone under the age of 65 ...

who can successfully run a campaign for President and win a term in the Oval Office.

I have nothing against older candidates as I am 70 myself, however I can see that a younger candidate might generate more enthusiasm and get a better voter turn out.

[LenaBaby61]

40. Surely in the Democratic Party there must be someone under the age of 65 ...

What we as Dems BETTER be scared as hell about is that there isn't more cyber-hacking shenanigans "allowed" by a tRuputin DOJ the next 2 big elections we have coming up (2018 mid-terms and 2020 GE when redistricting is to come up again). Shave 100,00 votes off of the Dem voting rolls here. Take 75,000 off of the Dem voting rolls there. Close down more polling places in heavily Democratic areas, purge hundreds of thousands off Dem voting rolls in 2 purple states, AND cyber-hack to seal the deal, and maybe into BLUE states Dem strongholds as well this time around, which more than likely will NOT be investigated or either poo pooed by a tRumputin DOJ. We have no 4th estate any longer, as 95% of the print/television media are now firmly in the corporate media shark tank and all about chasing big ratings so they can cash in on ad $$$.

The voter suppression and voter disenfranchisement that's going to be heaped upon Dems is going to be horrendous these next election cycles, and with the possibility of cyber-hacking too? I've almost NO faith in our voting apparatus here in the USA, and especially now that tRumputin and his minions are in firm charge. We know what a tRumputin DOJ would feel about investigating russian cyber-hacking/interference into our elections. NOTHING. Treasonous bastards, Not caring one damn bit about this country and surely not about it's citizens voting rights.

[spin]

68. Out of curiosity would you like to see Hillary try again in 2020? (n/t)

[LenaBaby61]

128. Out of curiosity would you like to see Hillary try again in 2020? (n/t)

IF she were younger MAYBE. But she'll be much too old to be running 4 years from now, as will Joe and Bernie. I would love for her to stay connected to Dem politics however, and help out where and when she can. I feel that she won the 2016 GE, but she faced a "Perfect Storm" situation where she was up against too much in Dem voter suppression/disenfranchisement, Dem voter purging, Dem voter cross-checking, a mostly pro-trump media, and of course cyber-hacking courtesy of tRumpuin's buddy the ruskies.

Having said all I've said above, I'm one whose scared that voting from now on out will be a complete mess for Dems in 2018 & 2020 because voter suppression etc., will be administered by the GOP and on steroids with this tRumputin administration at the helm looking to get to that 60 seat Senate majority in 2018, and looking to make 2020 the year they once again win the presidency AND redistrict the Dems back to the stone age.

HIDEOUS times ahead for Dems, speaking strictly concerning voter suppression and having to go up against a tRumputin DOJ and possibly russian cyber-hacking as well.

[spin]

136. I agree. The next four years will be a bumpy ride for Democrats. ...

If Trump doesn't totally screw up as many predict but instead does a fairly reasonable job the next few elections might give the Republicans even more control over state legislatures and Congress.

Of course I feel he may prove a total disaster but I have found it is very easy to underestimate Trump.

[CousinIT]

29. Did SHE say she was considering a 2020 run? If not this is just a backward way to insult her. n/t

[StevieM]

50. Exactly. She is obviously retired at this point.

The whole point to the ridiculous article is to belittle her.

[riversedge]

34. Stupid. poll. Only exists to creat controversy!! Hillary has given no indication whatsoever

that she is interested in running again.

[zippythepinhead]

37. I would like to see Michael Moore run.

The man really loves his country and has high moral standards.

He would be the first person to run who wasn't born with a silver spoon.

He could really connect with the blue collar workers.

He is passionate and a great debater.

On second thought I don't want him to run because he would surely be assassinated.

[Caliman73]

59. Neither Clinton, nor Sanders, nor Obama were born with a silver spoon.

Hillary Clinton was middle class, Sanders was middle class, Obama was middle class with a single mom and partially raised by grandparents. Bill Clinton was also middle class. I am not sure where this notion of a silver spoon came from. Although the Clintons are now wealthy and the Obamas are very well off as well, and Sanders is doing well financially, they all earned their wealth through their work, luck, and the help of government programs. None of them have ever forgotten that.

Moore is a good filmmaker and has done good with his advocacy, but he is as middle class by birth, and as wealthy now as everyone that I mentioned.

[emulatorloo]

41. She's not running. Fuck the Republican friendly POLITICO for needlessly shitting on HRC

[ismnotwasm]

42. Charming.

[BlueStater]

47. If you were born in the 1940s, I don't want you to run for president.

Enough. Jesus Christ.

[rzemanfl]

54. I was born in the 1940s and I agree with you.

I am a year younger than Trumplethinskin. I think I take better care of myself and am better educated than he is. I know I could not possibly handle the demands of the Presidency. I don't think Drumpf has any intention of actually trying to do the job.

[ucrdem]

48. Eager to close the books on 2016, aren't they?

When you get down to it, we're one tearful confession away from a Clinton presidency. So I'd keep polishing that inaugural if I were her.

[Maven]

51. This article is just an excuse to slap her in the face one more time

There is zero chance she would run again. As I've said before, fuck Politico.

[ucrdem]

53. She doesn't need to run again. I'm giving her a 25% chance of taking the oath on Jan. 20.

Optimistically I'm giving her 50%. Trump tower isn't built on foundation of sand, it's floating on a sea of shit. It won't be long before it sinks.

[cwydro]

58. Um no.

But it's pretty to think so.

[ucrdem]

60. The sun also rises eh?

We'll see.

[cwydro]

140. Lol!

I'm a big fan.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

91. Yeah, then Pence gets it

No way possible for Hillary Clinton to become President at this point, although I'd be interested to hear how you think it could happen.

[ucrdem]

97. Gets a lighter sentence maybe.

If he's lucky. But he's on the same ticket and won't escape the hard rain that's gonna fall on Bozo sooner or later. My guess is before Jan. 20.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

103. OK

Then the President will be Paul Ryan.

How do you see Hillary getting it?

[ucrdem]

106. Here's how: she won.

Now it's simply a matter of when and where the first worm turns but there's probably an army of them ready to. I can wait.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

112. Nothing then

She didn't win in the only way that matters

[TheFrenchRazor]

55. fine, but "the democrats" better get their own house in order or it's really not going to matter. nt

[geek tragedy]

56. no more Boomers. Down with the gerontocracy! nt

[ancianita]

62. This boomer's cool with that, except, most boomers never saw themselves in any 'ocracy' in the US.

[geek tragedy]

64. our party is ruled by people over 70.

Pelosi, Hoyer, Clyburn in the House

Schumer's the baby of the bunch at 66.

[ancianita]

66. This boomer never related to those folks. They never represented my FDR politics.

I daresay a sizable number of boomers wouldn't associate their politics with them, either.

Not saying we don't deserve some licks for our mistakes. But we have fought.

[spin]

72. Perhaps Obama won because he was young and charismatic. ...

Perhaps voters are tired of old politicians with stale ideas.

[Me.]

108. Sorry

But I refuse to rule out anyone who's qualified, has experience and is a gifted leader because some consider age to be a negative factor.

[geek tragedy]

110. Qualifications and experience have next to no value

in terms of electability.


No Democrat over 60 has been elected President as a non-incumbent since the Civil War.

[Me.]

115. I Think We'll Have To Agree To Disagree

Regarding The value Of Experience & Qualifications

[YOHABLO]

63. I can't imagine how stressful a Presidential campaign can be. I think Hillary would be tired by now.

But then who knows. She's one tenacious woman. She was born to make a difference.

[Bucky]

65. there's Gotta Be A Million Ways to serve the country without running for president

I look forward to seeing how Clinton offers leadership in the future.

[emulatorloo]

78. Plus one n/t

[pnwmom]

67. We don't need Hillary, Bernie, or Joe to run. They've all had their chances. n/t

[JHan]

69. Did Hillary announce a 2020 run and I missed it?

[LittleBlue]

70. There was no great cry for her to run in the first place.

There has never in my entire adult life been high enthusiasm for Hillary. She just isn't charismatic or interesting enough to generate a groundswell of passion. At times the media looked more enthusiastic about it than she herself did, and many of her supporters as well.

At best millions voted for her because she wasn't the orange dude bragging about sexual assault and fucking his own daughter. Yeah, we lost to that guy.

[gulliver]

71. The word "excited" should be left out of all superficial discussions of candidacies.

Polls that go into excitement, approval, etc., are worse than meaningless. Making someone unexcited about someone else is ridiculously easy. That's why nothing important should be based on excitement.

I think Hillary and Bernie should be among the speakers at a huge wave of rallies this Summer. Let the candidates for all offices emerge from grass roots Democratic rallies and speakers. Be excited to be part of the movement. Don't depend on any one person to be your white knight, I say.

Do I want to see Clinton on the speaking trail mocking and correcting Trump? You bet I do.

[JHan]

85. "Do I want to see Clinton on the speaking trail mocking and correcting Trump? " ---

that would be awesome lol

[HoneyBadger]

130. Warren and Bernie are going after Trump for the next 4 years

Split the difference and they average older than Hillary and Trump. So I would say that chronological age is not the issue. Hillary has built in surrogates in Bill and Chelsea. Chelsea was rumored to be running for state office and if she does, Hillary and Bill will be the ones to get her that win.

[Feeling the Bern]

73. I do somewhat agree with this. Time for some new blood in the party

The Baby boomer crowd can't run for president anymore. Their time has come and gone.

Boomers in the 1960s - Revolution and change the world.

Boomers in the 1980s - Greed is good and what's in it for me.

Hippies to Yuppies. . .sad evolution.

[madinmaryland]

75. I don't necessarily want Bernie, Hillary, or Joe to run, but I definitely want

them to stay politically active. By that, I mean recruiting new candidates and promoting the Democratic Party. I don't think any one of the three will run.

[rtracey]

76. Time for new blood

I like Gavin Newsom....

[ffr]

77. I can't imagine she would run again, but if she did and she were the nominee, I'd vote her in.

Heck, if we get an emergency election in 2017, I'd vote her it. We need her, not Rump nor pEnce.

[Eliot Rosewater]

81. Well, as long as one of the finest charities going is allowed to continue,

The Clinton Foundation, I am sure Hillary will be more than happy to continue to be partially responsible for helping millions of people each year as they have done for many years.'

Millions each year.

In one day I suspect the Clinton Foundation helps more people than the Trump Foundation has done since it's creation.

[joanbarnes]

82. Stay home Hillary, Elizabeth Warren or Tulsi Gabbard should be the first woman prez

[Botany]

84. Good God in Butter

She won the election.

[tclambert]

87. Elizabeth Warren? She'll be 71. How about Gavin Newsom?

Currently Lieutenant Governor of California, may become Governor in 2018, will be 53 in 2020. Trump will be 74, but probably claim to be in astonishingly excellent health, though he will still know less than many 4th graders about how the American government works.

[Lotusflower70]

88. I would agree with that

She paved the way for a lot of women and inspired little girls but she needs her peace. She ran twice. It's time to move forward.

[JNelson6563]

99. Clinton, Sanders, Biden--all too old in 2020.

[SharonClark]

116. Add Warren to that list

[treestar]

100. Where has Hillary said she is even interested?

That headline is put stupidly

[jalan48]

101. Happy Trails to You

[HeartachesNhangovers]

102. Considering her strong performance in the popular

vote, I think the party owes it to her to say what she wants to do. If she wants to run again she should get a chance to make her case for being the nominee.

[Jamaal510]

105. I still want Clinton

out there speaking up, but I don't think it would be a good idea for her to ever run for president again, having multiple unsuccessful bids. I also don't know about Biden running (considering his age), and I'm extremely wary about Sanders being allowed to run in our party again after what went down in the primaries and at the convention. It's time for some fresh faces on the presidential level. I wouldn't mind Martin O'Malley running again next time, though, and there should be some other up-and-coming stars joining him. As for Congress, State, and local elections, what I want to see are more Gen X Democrats run for office. We're going to need more younger people to replace the old guard as time goes on.

[Packerowner741]

109. I voted for her in 2008, I voted for her in 2016

And I would vote for her again in 2020

[Cha]

111. How fucking rude. I call bullshit. A bit presumptious.. who in the

hell said she wanted to?

[Maru Kitteh]

120. Regarding Sanders, If they can manage the head-jar thing (ala Futurama)

I would never rule out an attempt, be it 2020 or 2032 or beyond.

Note, this is not a compliment or a slam, just a simple observation.

[X_Digger]

121. We need a 40 year old in the mold of Bernie and Obama.

Bernie's populism, with a dash of Obama's pragmatism.

I dunno.. one of the Castros?

[Lil Missy]

126. There has been no expression of interest from Hillary that she might be interested in 2020.

Actually, this suggestion that tries to fix something that is not broken smacks of rubbing HRC and supporters nose in it.

[Hamlette]

129. I understand from the age perspective but seems a little soon to be throwing her under the bus n/t

[Hekate]

133. Oh f'petesake. SHE doesn't want to run, and why on Earth would she put herself thru that again?

She's been politically destroyed, period, kaput, run over with a truck that backed up and did it again. And even here on DU we've got the sickening spectacle of partisans rejoicing that Hillary has been defeated.

Why we can't have nice things....

[zippythepinhead]

138. Taylor Swift

or some young hot woman.

"When you're hot you're hot, when you're not, you're not."

[joshcryer]

139. If she runs in 2020...

I'd be the first to back her.

Though I don't think she should. She got almost 3 million more votes than the autocrat in chief.

It is what it is.

She won't run in 2020, though. Just she knows when to throw in the rag. She's done.