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no_hypocrisy

(46,101 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:12 AM Dec 2016

Trump Wanted to Win the Presidency, Not Be President

http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/12/21/trump-wanted-to-win-the-presidency-not-be-president/


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In other words, the guy who can’t sit through a daily intelligence briefing is spending his time obsessing over the results of an election that happened six weeks ago. It will be interesting to watch how long this obsession lasts. But it’s clear that for Donald, running and winning is the game. The job itself is of no interest to him.

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* * * But even with the win, Trump will eventually have to face the fact that it gave him nothing that he wants, which Keillor nailed with this:

The fans in the arenas are wild about you, and Sean Hannity is as loyal as they come, but Rudy and Christie and Newt are reassuring in that stilted way of hospital visitors. And The New York Times treats you like the village idiot. This is painful for a Queens boy trying to win respect in Manhattan where the Times is the Supreme Liberal Jewish Anglican Arbiter of Who Has The Smarts and What Goes Where…In Queens, blacks were a threat to property values — they belonged in the Bronx, not down the street. To the Times, Queens is Cleveland. Bush league. You are Queens. The casinos were totally Queens, the gold faucets in your triplex, the bragging, the insults, but you wanted to be liked by Those People.

Winning doesn’t change the fact that Trump is nothing more than a narcissistic bully who depends on intimidation to elicit fake respect. That is what he was before the election. When the glow of that victory wears off, it is what he will have to face again.
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Trump Wanted to Win the Presidency, Not Be President (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 OP
It was the ultimate ego trip. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #1
He wants to be Emperor and Chairman of the Board of the United States. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #2
Unfortunately, he's going to get a lot of credit from the GOPhers.... lastlib Dec 2016 #10
All he wanted was the publicity. When he actually started winning some primaries, his ego wouldn't Arkansas Granny Dec 2016 #3
He's in it now to enrich himself and his family, that's all. If he can screw minorities, well that's WestSeattle2 Dec 2016 #6
This: He's in it now to enrich himself and his family, that's all. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2016 #21
A previous producer on The Apprentice, was quoted as saying how devastating it is to realize WestSeattle2 Dec 2016 #4
Can you imagine him being interested in law making? Kablooie Dec 2016 #5
Staff meeting for the Trump White House keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #30
Just like his followers. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #7
Amazing perspective bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #8
so true, this is an ego trip treestar Dec 2016 #9
He likes outlandish speeches at rallies in front of adoring crowds IronLionZion Dec 2016 #11
I think, we all should help the short-fingered molester to come face reality. DetlefK Dec 2016 #12
don't forget the vulgarian part--short-fingered vulgarian molester. niyad Dec 2016 #24
I've thought that all along. Dulcinea Dec 2016 #13
this is what I have been saying, too ginnyinWI Dec 2016 #16
yup.... berksdem Dec 2016 #14
two writers I have loved reading since the election ginnyinWI Dec 2016 #15
The referenced artlce is "spot on," if not at all reassuring. (NT) maddiemom Dec 2016 #17
Yep, he wanted the win forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #18
"What do we do now?" no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #19
That's what popped into my mind as well PatSeg Dec 2016 #23
exactly niyad Dec 2016 #25
Excellent parallel, excellent movie. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #28
If only this could end like.... Pluvious Dec 2016 #20
It is all a game to him PatSeg Dec 2016 #22
Don't forget, he took us from being the leader of the free world to having a puppet for Putin's judesedit Dec 2016 #26
Don't Underestimate the Power of Egomania HopeAgain Dec 2016 #27
He's going to be truly MFM008 Dec 2016 #29
Agreed. Here's a snapshot from the Trump Administration, showing Trump, Flynn and Bannon. TrollBuster9090 Dec 2016 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #32
People like Trump are never satisfied War Horse Dec 2016 #33
Agreed. Spot-on article. The fact that this man is prez-elect Duppers Dec 2016 #34
They'll let him play president indefinitely, so long as he Buns_of_Fire Dec 2016 #35
And his win is permanently tainted by how he wonderful Liberal_in_LA Dec 2016 #36
can we onethatcares Dec 2016 #37

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
2. He wants to be Emperor and Chairman of the Board of the United States.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:24 AM
Dec 2016

He'll have Pence and company do all the leg work, and have them assemble before him, and depending on his mood or whether they've sufficiently flattered him, he'll give them the thumbs up or thumbs down.

But all the attention he'll get 24-7 from the media and the international community, he'll never want to give that up.

He'll do very little of substance but he'll still be very much in charge because his ego demands it.

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
10. Unfortunately, he's going to get a lot of credit from the GOPhers....
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:22 AM
Dec 2016

...for doing a LOT of substance! That is the danger to us. Whacking Social Security, Medicare, MedicAid, SNAP, education spending, axing environmental and consumer regulations, scientific/medical research; and of course, sending military spending sky-high, all while giving trillions in tax cuts to his rich pals.

We can't do a damn thing about it. . . . .

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
3. All he wanted was the publicity. When he actually started winning some primaries, his ego wouldn't
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:24 AM
Dec 2016

allow him to drop out. So now, we're stuck with someone who hasn't the slightest interest in actually doing the work of being President, but see himself as winning the biggest popularity contest ever.

I don't see anything good coming out of this. We are deeply screwed for at least the next 4 years.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
6. He's in it now to enrich himself and his family, that's all. If he can screw minorities, well that's
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:36 AM
Dec 2016

just icing on the cake for him.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
4. A previous producer on The Apprentice, was quoted as saying how devastating it is to realize
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:35 AM
Dec 2016

that the show crafted an image of this idiot as some kind of business wonder, when in fact the exact opposite is the case. Apparently, Tweety's business empire was on the verge of yet another collapse, when he stumbled into the Apprentice gig.

The dude definitely has a huge inferiority complex. While I normally consider people's inferiority complexes to be overblown - the world simply doesn't see them as they see themselves - that's not the case with Tweety.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
5. Can you imagine him being interested in law making?
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:35 AM
Dec 2016

But commander of the most powerful military in history, that, he might get into.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. so true, this is an ego trip
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:22 AM
Dec 2016

foisted on us. The Presidency is not like being the ultimate CEO and he was stupid enough not to realize that. Why he ever even did this is a tragedy. And the EC and the locations of just the right voters at the right place is a happenstance that is coincidental with tragic and unlikely results.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
11. He likes outlandish speeches at rallies in front of adoring crowds
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:28 AM
Dec 2016

fawning over everything he says as he encourages them to do violence to other people on his behalf. What could go wrong with electing a Drumpf and his cronies on a platform of bigotry?

He looked into the camera and told his supporters to stop it (committing hate crimes) in his name.

Dulcinea

(6,631 posts)
13. I've thought that all along.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:36 AM
Dec 2016

I don't think Trump ever thought he would actually be President. He doesn't want the job. He ran to get free publicity for his businesses. And now he's stuck, & so are we. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't last 4 years.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
16. this is what I have been saying, too
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:08 PM
Dec 2016

There will come a time, sooner or later, when he will be sick of the whole caper and start delegating everything to his underlings.

And at the same time, the GOP will be sick of HIM, and set wheels in motion to remove the big lump.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
15. two writers I have loved reading since the election
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:06 PM
Dec 2016

Garrison Keillor for his wit and perception, and Robert Reich for his smart analysis of the situation.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
18. Yep, he wanted the win
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:27 PM
Dec 2016

but not the work. I maintain he won't last over a year, either by his own decision or someone else's.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
22. It is all a game to him
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:44 PM
Dec 2016

And the objective is "winning". I don't think he ever imagined BEING president, just winning.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
26. Don't forget, he took us from being the leader of the free world to having a puppet for Putin's
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:05 PM
Dec 2016

desires for this country. Very, very sad.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
27. Don't Underestimate the Power of Egomania
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:13 PM
Dec 2016

All the fascists and dictators spend more time talking than governing. Castro would spend hours on the television just jabbering on and yet he basically died after 50+ years, still in power. Hitler would give endless speeches.

I predict Trump will spend an inordinate amount of time continuing to travel the country and hold rallies, er, "speeches," replete with privately paid brown shirts who will keep out the people who won't gleefully chant with him. He loves the adulation and apparently a good number of people are willing to give it to him regardless.

This presidency will not be about what gets accomplished, it will be about carefully crafting continued support despite how he governs. He may be an idiot, but a lot of people see him as "their" idiot and that might just work for him while the wheels are coming off the bus.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
29. He's going to be truly
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:07 PM
Dec 2016

Surprised when he sees massive protests against him and he will care. He will watch. He can't HELP himself.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
31. Agreed. Here's a snapshot from the Trump Administration, showing Trump, Flynn and Bannon.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:34 PM
Dec 2016

Trump is going to be a hands-off, do nothing President. Which (much like Reagan) is a GOOD thing. Remember when the U.S. Navy shot down those Libyan fighter jets, and the Visir (Alexander Haige) didn't even bother to wake him up, and tell him that the USA was in a state of war?

The Trump Administration is going to be run by Bannon, Flynn, Ivanka, and Jarod Kushner. Trump will spend most of his time in New York or Florida, watching TV and tweeting about stuff he saw on Fox News.

Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

War Horse

(931 posts)
33. People like Trump are never satisfied
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:56 PM
Dec 2016

Being driven can be a good thing, but not when it's 100 % of your existence.

On the other hand, if he actually proves to be a hands-off president, all the more reason to watch his appointees.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
34. Agreed. Spot-on article. The fact that this man is prez-elect
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 03:47 AM
Dec 2016

says more about the IQ of and racism in this country than anything.

Trump is a low-IQ, ADD jerk (not that those traits are usually paired at all). He's desperately trying to appear as something else.

Bet on how long they'll keep him?

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
35. They'll let him play president indefinitely, so long as he
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 04:40 AM
Dec 2016

signs off on whatever crap they have in mind. Any new initiatives won't come from the Trump House (the former White House, renamed during his first term), but from ALEC and the diseased brains of McConnell and Ryan.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
36. And his win is permanently tainted by how he wonderful
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 05:56 AM
Dec 2016

Now, Donald Trump is about to be president of the United States, which is an actual accomplishment, but after getting there by fomenting racial resentment of white Americans against anyone who did not appear to be as white as they were, nobody Trump used to rub shoulders with wants to hang out anymore. Not even the B-listers. Just Ted Nugent. Always Ted Nugent.

Sure, some of the monied men with potbellies and receding hairlines are still around, but not the A-listers. And the A-list matter to Trump. They always have. But Trump’s deal with the devil to become president, in an instant, robbed him of his celebrity-convening power that he had once used as validation.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/22/donald_trump_is_sad_famous_people_don_t_want_anything_to_do_with_him_anymore.html

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