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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:24 PM Dec 2016

Keith Ellison Says Its Time For Democrats To Stop Ignoring Their Voters

Keith Ellison Says It’s Time For Democrats To Stop Ignoring Their Voters
Kate Abbey-Lambertz
Huffington Post

The first Muslim to be elected to Congress, Ellison’s bid for DNC chair has made him the target of a smear campaign that accused him of anti-Semitism over recently released remarks on Israel. He has also been criticized for, years ago, supporting Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, whom he has since denounced.

According to Politico, some of Perez’s support comes from Democrats wary of the controversy and concerned Ellison is too connected to identity politics. But Ellison dismissed the contentious theory that identity politics is costing Democrats voters.

“The idea that somehow we’ve got to go talk to the white working class or we can talk to people of color is a ridiculous notion that must be rejected,” Ellison said. Instead, he said Democratic issues like social security and better wages have universal appeal.

“The way Democrats campaign is, you look at all the red states and get rid of them. Look at the blue states, ignore them,” and then typically solely focus on likely voters in swing states, Ellison said. “When you ignore people they have a tendency to do what? Ignore you right back.”

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Keith Ellison Says Its Time For Democrats To Stop Ignoring Their Voters (Original Post) portlander23 Dec 2016 OP
Keith Ellison is making shit up. White people weren't ignored. MY GOD. boston bean Dec 2016 #1
Where the hell did he say that? EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2016 #2
umm, he thinks Dems lost the election cause Democrats didn't speak to white working people. boston bean Dec 2016 #4
So you're against a Democratic party that works for all people EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2016 #7
No i am not against that. I believe the party already has that within its core values. boston bean Dec 2016 #15
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #18
That is so not what he said. nt tblue37 Dec 2016 #3
It's what he meant. boston bean Dec 2016 #6
Emphasis added: tblue37 Dec 2016 #9
Right. boston bean Dec 2016 #16
So now Ellison haters are attacking him both jfern Dec 2016 #21
Thats a very strange interpretation of what Keith said (nt) jack_krass Dec 2016 #22
well heaven05 Dec 2016 #5
Yep! potone Dec 2016 #8
He better watch out heaven05 Dec 2016 #10
Sorry Keith, once you sang the praises of Louis Farrakhan, you oasis Dec 2016 #11
Dems defended pols with serious skeletons in their closet Jake Stern Dec 2016 #12
So Which Nearly 3 Million More People Me. Dec 2016 #13
What issues specifically did Democrats ignore ? Trust Buster Dec 2016 #14
I don't know. JHan Dec 2016 #20
How about a leader who doesn't blame us/followerers?!1 I don't know this fellow but, am saying that UTUSN Dec 2016 #17
I believe he was just commenting on the way democrats have campaigned over the years. pennylane100 Dec 2016 #19

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
1. Keith Ellison is making shit up. White people weren't ignored. MY GOD.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:26 PM
Dec 2016

WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO WHITE PEOPLE.

OKAY!!!!!!!!

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
4. umm, he thinks Dems lost the election cause Democrats didn't speak to white working people.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:34 PM
Dec 2016

inferring that they spoke only to other people.

Why else would he be making distinctions that it's crazy to think you can't talk to white people because of black people?

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
7. So you're against a Democratic party that works for all people
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:40 PM
Dec 2016

regardless of race? Because that's really what he's saying.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
15. No i am not against that. I believe the party already has that within its core values.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 10:46 PM
Dec 2016

I disagree with keith and bernie on this. They sre wrong.

Response to boston bean (Reply #15)

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
9. Emphasis added:
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:41 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)

The idea that somehow we’ve got to go talk to the white working class or we can talk to people of color is a ridiculous notion that must be rejected,” Ellison said. Instead, he said Democratic issues like social security and better wages have universal appeal.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
21. So now Ellison haters are attacking him both
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 03:03 AM
Dec 2016

for being a black Muslim who was a fan of Louis Farrakhan, and for making shit up in favor of white people. Hilarious.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. well
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:40 PM
Dec 2016

given THE FACT that I am about to becomes a citizen of dumbtrumpistan, I think the Democratic Party has a hell of a lot of work to do to regain it's stature as a major Party in AmeriKKKa. I will fight until I can't anymore any dumbtrumper that feels their color and perceived white entitlement and privilege means that I have to fight to be a man a man in dumbtrumpistan. Did that once...fuck ameriKKKa if it tries that shit again.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. He better watch out
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:49 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Sat Dec 24, 2016, 02:16 PM - Edit history (1)

the trumpdumps will be telling him to go back where he came from. I tell any white working class whiner that they have to get off their lazy asses, stop watching foxsnooze lies, blaming immigrants and poor people, who are doing jobs that they feel too privileged to do and damn sure won't do and who had not a damn thing to do with this new WORLD economy. Get retrained for this working world now. Those jobs that we could sit at for 8 hours push a button and make something for a car or some other ARE GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.they will never return, trumpfuhrer lied to you, you ate it up and a bad case of trumpfuhrer indigestion is on the way for the next 4 years. So STFU and get out there and take care of business. Plenty of programs to help them because.......,.

oasis

(49,381 posts)
11. Sorry Keith, once you sang the praises of Louis Farrakhan, you
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:56 PM
Dec 2016

sank any hopes of ever holding a high visibility post in the Democratic Party.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
12. Dems defended pols with serious skeletons in their closet
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 09:58 PM
Dec 2016

Well at least they did with

Ted Kennedy (Caused death of someone through careless driving)

Bill Clinton (Serial philandering, possible sexual assault)

John Kerry (Made statements that can be considered anti-military and anti-American)

Michael Dukakis (Vetoed bill that would have denied furlough to convicted murderers. cf. Willie Horton case)

John Edwards (Cheated on cancer stricken wife for years with campaign staffer)

Barack Obama (Only disavowed statements by controversial pastor after media shitstorm)

Each of these men were hammered hard in the press and by Republicans and yet the Democratic Party "stood by their man"

Tell me again why they get all squeamish with Keith Ellison?

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
17. How about a leader who doesn't blame us/followerers?!1 I don't know this fellow but, am saying that
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:06 PM
Dec 2016

*Is* there such a leader?!1

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
19. I believe he was just commenting on the way democrats have campaigned over the years.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:56 AM
Dec 2016

So it would seem that if he is wrong, why have we lost the house, the senate and the White House. We have lost votes of the very people that should be supporting us. Instead they voted for a party that will take away their medicare, social security will be privatized, so we will soon kiss that goodbye, and the leader of the party that they chose to put in the white house is a woman hating, seriously deranged sex maniac who has teamed up with his psychotic Russian counterpart that wants to destroy this country.

I did not see Ellison has blaming the average democrat, although the way they voted, I believe they bear some of the responsibility. I think he was criticizing the way the democratic party has led us during the last eight years. Let's face it, we lost to a person that makes George Bush look good. If we do not stop and ask ourselves why, we will soon become completely irrelevant and that is too depressing to even contemplate.

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