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Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:20 AM

 

President Obama should pardon Edward Snowden

President Obama should pardon Edward Snowden
Dean Takahashi
VentureBeat

They say that the holidays make us feel charitable, and I hope that is the case. I believe that President Obama should pardon Edward Snowden, the man who blew the whistle on the National Security Agency’s global surveillance programs and revealed that the government was spying on all of us.

Once Donald Trump comes into office, no such pardon will be possible. In fact, Trump has suggested Snowden should be executed. Snowden can be viewed by patriotic Americans as a fellow patriot, a whistleblower, a dissident, or as a traitor. I see this as an easy one. He did us all a service, and, by and large, we are better off for it. We now know that we have to be more vigilant about protecting our data, our privacy, and our freedoms. He exposed illegal activities and started a public debate that led to a crackdown on the NSA’s sweeping powers and led to efforts to curb spying on U.S. citizens.

Snowden did this at great personal risk and with no obvious gain. If he complained about the spying through “appropriate channels,” he would have gotten nowhere. Congressional oversight committees knew about the activities, but they did nothing until there was a leak and a public outcry. They were supposed to be watch dogs on our behalf, but it was Snowden who forced them into action.

I’ve listened to Snowden offer stark and cogent warnings about the risks we face, and he speaks like a patriot. I would love to see him return and run for public office or be assigned to protecting our freedoms. He has demonstrated he has the expertise and commitment to help protect all our rights. I would rather have him back home, doing something on a behalf of American freedom, than leave him in Russia, where his asylum puts Vladimir Putin in the odd position of having a moral upper hand over the U.S. Our political system is strong enough to withstand any harm that could come from allowing someone like Snowden to walk free. Our democracy is big enough to tolerate the challenges that someone like Snowden can create.

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Reply President Obama should pardon Edward Snowden (Original post)
portlander23 Dec 2016 OP
SidDithers Dec 2016 #1
Thinkingabout Dec 2016 #2
kentuck Dec 2016 #3
Trust Buster Dec 2016 #4
portlander23 Dec 2016 #5
Trust Buster Dec 2016 #6
brush Dec 2016 #7
Johnathan146 Dec 2016 #9
brush Dec 2016 #31
KittyWampus Dec 2016 #22
JTFrog Dec 2016 #24
uponit7771 Dec 2016 #14
KittyWampus Dec 2016 #21
BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #8
X_Digger Dec 2016 #10
MineralMan Dec 2016 #11
brer cat Dec 2016 #16
FarPoint Dec 2016 #12
gulliver Dec 2016 #13
SaschaHM Dec 2016 #15
CakeGrrl Dec 2016 #17
JTFrog Dec 2016 #18
flamingdem Dec 2016 #25
JTFrog Dec 2016 #32
Kolesar Dec 2016 #33
Rage4Bacon Dec 2016 #19
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #38
KittyWampus Dec 2016 #20
oasis Dec 2016 #23
think Dec 2016 #26
meadowlander Dec 2016 #27
think Dec 2016 #28
hrmjustin Dec 2016 #29
think Dec 2016 #30
MyNameGoesHere Dec 2016 #34
smilodon populator Dec 2016 #35
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #37
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #36
KamaAina Dec 2016 #39
doc03 Dec 2016 #40

Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:24 AM

1. ...



Sid

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:29 AM

2. Based on what facts? Are you saying he is guilty?

He has admitted his guilt, he can still return to the US and face the charges but apparently he knows the results will be convictions so he continues to remain on the lam. Understanding the seriousness of his crimes should be easy to understand.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:32 AM

3. I think President Obama considers him a traitor?

I doubt any type of pardon is in the offering.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:33 AM

4. I strongly disagree. Snowden did not steal targeted classified info to share with a reporter.

 

Snowden stole meta classified data, high tailed it to China and Russia and shared the info with them.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:39 AM

5. That's a great point

 

Except for the part where it's not true.

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Response to portlander23 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:45 AM

6. It is definitely true. China and Russia did not host this man for humanity's sake. It is naive to

 

think otherwise.

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Response to portlander23 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:46 AM

7. If you actually believe China didn't get info from Snowen and Greenwald I feel for you

China would not have let him in without quid pro quo.

And do you think Putin is putting him up out of the goodness of his heart?

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Response to brush (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:06 AM

9. Putin could let him in as a way of saying FU to Obama

 

That would not suprise me.

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Response to Johnathan146 (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 02:04 PM

31. And what about China? They didn't let Snowden in without getting something in return

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Response to portlander23 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:39 PM

22. It's literally true.

 

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Response to portlander23 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:39 PM

24. Don't you get tired carrying all that water?

 

Maybe you should try a little real news for a change.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:44 AM

14. +1, then after sharing such information the Russians were involved in a US election...

... there's no direct causation just enough to be suspicious and that's still bad enough NOT to pardon him

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:38 PM

21. He high-tailed it to the Russian embassy in China and THEN moved to Russia.

 

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:56 AM

8. Snowden doesn't care where he lives as long as he has a toilet, heat and an Internet connection

If it's any consolation to his fans.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:30 AM

10. No. n/t

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:55 AM

11. No, I think not.

We should not pardon anyone who passed massive amounts of classified information on to anyone who was unauthorized to have it. Down that road is disaster, whether it happened with Snowden or not.

Let him rot in Russia, and send Assange there, too, to live out the rest of his justifiably miserable life.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:56 AM

16. I agree.

I will hitchhike on your post and save myself a few minutes to make my own post.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:32 AM

12. Absolutely not...

He's a Putin operative...We all know where that got us today.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:37 AM

13. Snowden helped Putin immeasurably and sullied America

Dumbasses of the world united in agreement on the horrors of the U.S. government's spying operations. Meanwhile, Putin was developing far worse cyber warfare technologies. Snowden accepting "asylum" made Putin look like the good guy.

Snowden is a coward and a misguided, technically untalented asshole. He needs to man up, disown Putin, and come back to the United States to take his medicine. He's as responsible for the Trump presidency as anyone.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:53 AM

15. I remember when...

Snowden said that 2016 was a choice between Goldman Sachs and Donald Trump. I think Obama should let Snowden see how Donald Trump works out for him. His window for a pardon has been shut.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:32 PM

17. Nope. The traitor shared info with Russia,

and there he can stay - at the whim of the Trump/Putin administration.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:36 PM

18. YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!11%(#%*@!. Fuck Takahashi, Snowden and the Putin those fuckers rode in on. nt

 

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Response to JTFrog (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:41 PM

25. Who is this Takahashi?

Don't remember his involvement

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 02:11 PM

32. The author of this ridiculous piece. nt

 

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Response to JTFrog (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 02:17 PM

33. Fuck Greenwald and Poitras, too. ... eom

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:36 PM

19. Snowden brought plenty of their underhanded monitoring to light...

 

Hero in my book. Set him free.

Now if more people will bring this type of nonsense to light, maybe we might stop the onslaught of unlawful monitoring of the masses.

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Response to Rage4Bacon (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 04:10 PM

38. Aw Jeez.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:37 PM

20. He is a Russian asset. How could anyone be this simple-minded at this late date?

 

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:39 PM

23. As long as the pardon comes with an extended vacation at Guantanamo.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:43 PM

26. Both the ACLU and Amnesty International are spear heading efforts to get a pardon for Snowden

 

And yet here we are....

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:45 PM

27. Yes and selling out to Russia doesn't seem to mean what it used to.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:47 PM

28. who sold out to the Russians?

 

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:53 PM

29. No! He made a choice and has to live with it!

 

He had choices and made this one. We the public will never know exactly what he stole but he had other options!

If he wants to come home there are airports! Buy a ticket and come home Snowden! If he feels he was in the right he can always defend himself vigorously in court!

Snowden s no hero!

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:57 PM

30. Here are a couple of the Whlstletblowers the main stream TV media choose to ignore:

 



Additional information:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/how-pentagon-punished-nsa-whistleblowers

There is plenty of information out there if one wants to become informed...


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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 02:28 PM

34. Oh don't worry, President Putinrump

Already has it planned for his first day in office.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 03:13 PM

35. We're going to need a lot more Snowdens for the next 4 years.

Maybe we should acknowledge that he is a patriot, not a traitor. Maybe he can help do to Putin and his puppet what he did to the NSA bigwigs

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Response to smilodon populator (Reply #35)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 04:08 PM

37. Fuck Snowden and all his fanbois. He's no patriot.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 04:07 PM

36. Vladimir Putin? "The moral upper hand"? WTF wrote this shit? And why you disseminate it?

Oh, I forgot.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 04:40 PM

39. Get in line, Snowden

 

Don Siegelman and Leonard Peltier were ahead of you.

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Response to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 05:26 PM

40. The SOB needs to be in Guantanamo, he helped Herr Trumpenfuhrer get elected nt

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