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While the US abstaining from voting had the same effect as voting in favor of the resolution, it isn't the same as supporting the measure.
If the media had educated the public on what has happened with the settlements, the resolution might not have been so controversial.
Many settlements are land grabs, a form of adverse possession like US homesteading in the 19th century. You choose an area of land, develop it, live on it, and then claim exclusive and permanent ownership. It can't be taken away from you. In other words, someone else can't come on your land, move onto it, develop it, live on it, and claim exclusive ownership.
In the process, it's more than more land for Israelis and less for Palestinians. You have evictions from homes, destruction of olive trees (the only means of survival for many non-settlors), some of which have been owned for generations. And water diversion. There is limited fresh water supply and often, it is diverted from non-settlors to settlements, leaving no potable water for drinking, sanitation, bathing, etc. In short, no sharing of resources.
I've been reading all week-end the condemnation of the vote by the Netanyahu, members of the Israeli government, and both sides of the aisle in our government. I can't help but wonder with the latter if they are inured by our own history where it was common practice to take away land from Native Americans to give to our own settlors for the "betterment" of our country. If the UN had existed in the 19th century, would it too have condemned the land grab?
If the goal is truly a peace settlement, I can't see how incrementally assuming control and ownership of people's homes without their permission is going to accomplish that.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)if it continues to support or at least to tolerate new settlements in violation of the family of nation's positions on this matter.
If Obama's de facto Middle East position was to disengage militarily - intervening on humanitarian grounds and security matters when possible at little risk of escalation on our part - it seems this tantamount acceptance of the United Nations and European position is just a furtherance of Obama's policy.
Plus, Netanyahu is a serious rightwing asshole. Obama was never his patsy, but Republicans and Corrupt Trump look very willing to get played - and some kind of war with Iran is the endgame.
spanone
(135,831 posts)malaise
(268,977 posts)one more theft of people's homes and lands. Land in several parts of our planet is also part of this debate
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libtodeath
(2,888 posts)HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)A death blow for a Democrat
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Seriously.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)You think this country is high and mighty?
A party of racists that cant wait to destroy families here just stole the election.
Millions here will suffer and die because of it.
Yeah,murica,number one.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)You think the United States is a terrorist state?
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)sorry if that offends you.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I just wanted to get a sense of how you are defining the terms.
Approximately how many states in the world would you say are terrorist states?
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I would argue that a lot of states would probably fit the bill if you are including the two that you mentioned.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)The power of right-wing and religious parties in Israel make that a fantasy at this point.
The whole "peace process" was a "rope-a-dope" ploy to buy time to create facts on the ground.