Biggest Irony About The U.N. Vote On Israeli Settlements: RUSSIA Voted For It. (As they always do.)

[TrollBuster9090]

Remember when Russia invaded Crimea in 2014? The United Nations voted to condemn the Russian annexation of Crimea....and Israel abstained. (Yes, technically they skipped the vote, but that's just a cowardly version of an abstention.) That was something the United States obviously wanted them to vote for, and Netanyahu told his U.N. team to skip the vote. It was a clear example of Netanyahu appeasing Russia, and showing a lack of solidarity with Obama.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.761662

Amazingly, the press didn't cover this at all. We got wall to wall coverage of Netanyahu's opposition to Obama's Iran deal. Fox News did wall to wall coverage about Obama's apparent 'appeasement' of Russia by only putting in economic sanctions, when they wanted him to send weapons to Ukraine. But not a word on Israel appeasing Russia on the invasion of Crimea by refusing to even vote to condemn it.

But now, when Putin had a chance to return the favor, he stuck BiBi in the back. (In fact, the very day after Israel abstained from condemning Russia for invading Crimea, the Russians voted to condemn Israel for settlements. Israel, as usual, was protected by the U.S. veto.) So, it appears that Netanyahu thinks Israel can do what it wants, but the United States is ALWAYS expected to shield Israel.

Netanyahu is putting out a lot of sham surprise and outrage about Obama's so called betrayal of him. Which shouldn't have come as a surprise to anybody who watched Netanyahu try to scuttle Obama's Iran deal by running straight to the Republican Congress. But I think it's really Putin he's upset with.

Trump has shown support for Israel by nominating a pro-settlement Ambassador to Israel. But he's also in Putin's pocket. If I were Putin, this would be one of the first wedges I'd try to exploit in the Trump Administration.

[malaise]

1. Settlements my granny

It's land theft

[TrollBuster9090]

2. Ironically, that's what about half the Israelis think, too.

Netanyahu is an extremist. His alignment with the Republicans is a natural one, but neither Republicans nor Netanyahu's Likudites reflect the majority views in their respective countries.

[malaise]

3. Absolutely true

[uponit7771]

6. +1, so true.... I'm way more sensitive to normalizing fucked up thinking now... yeap, land theft

[SaschaHM]

4. I'd love to see who Trump listens to Vlad or Bebe when it comes to Israeli issues.

My money is on Vlad. And given how quickly Trump wrote off Aleppo because of Russia's involvement, does Bebe really think Trump is going to be tough on Iran with Russia in their corner?

[spanone]

5. Israeli govt calling this 'unprecedented' ...pure bullshit.

even andrea mitchell had to point that out how many administrations have had strained relations with them

....and it's been about settlements many times.

[Mosby]

7. Seven Outrageous Examples of Palestinian Incitement in 2016

The anti-Israel United Nations Security Council resolution that was passed on Friday condemned “all acts of violence against civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of provocation, incitement and destruction.” That language was promptly violated by Fatah, the ruling party of the Palestinian Authority, when it published an image on its official Facebook page depicting a knife dripping with blood with captions thanking the countries that voted for the resolution—suggesting that it took the resolution’s success as a license to encourage terror attacks.

The Palestinian Authority has been obligated to fight both terrorism and violent incitement since it agreed to the Oslo Accords in 1993. But it has failed to seriously address either issue over the past 23 years, and instead has often engaged in or encouraged them. Shalem College Provost Dan Polisar observed last year in Mosaic Magazine that numerous public opinion polls reveal the extent to which “Palestinian perpetrators of violence reflect and are acting on the basis of views widely held in their society.”

2016 was no exception. Picking up where they left off last year, high-ranking Palestinian officials have engaged in outrageous instances of incitement.

-snip-

http://www.thetower.org/4356-seven-outrageous-examples-of-palestinian-incitement-in-2016/

[Rustyeye77]

8. This

"Fatah Central Committee member Sultan Abu al-Einein, a top advisor to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, told a Palestinian website in June, “If you ask me my blunt position, I would say — every place you find an Israeli, slit his throat.” A few days later, 17-year-old Muhammad Nasser Tarayrah broke into the home of 13-year-old Hallel Yaffa Ariel and stabbed her to death in her bed."

Real easy to make peace with this.

[guillaumeb]

10. Deir Yassin, Beit Hanina, Sabra, Shatila............

Real easy to make peace with this.

[guillaumeb]

9. While the Israeli Government keeps on stealing Palestinian land.

Something that it has done without cease since 1948.

Over the years, numerous Israeli Government officials have stated that they have no intention of returning any of the stolen land. And their actions show that they have no intention of allowing for a viable Palestinian State. What the Israeli Government created in Gaza, an open air prison, is what they are doing in Palestine.

All the crying about this resolution is another attempt to point a finger at others to deflect from their own ongoing crimes.

Interesting attempt at deflection here, by the way.

[malaise]

15. That's just the simple undiluted truth

It's no different than the centuries of stealing land and then calling the owners the criminals = be they Aborigines, Native Americans, Caribs, Aztecs, Zulus, etc., etc.

[guillaumeb]

16. But when the truth conflicts with a narrative of "Israel as eternal victim",

the truth must be sacrificed.

[malaise]

17. Well America and most of the West played along for way too long

but they know there is no peace without resolving the theft of Palestinian land

[guillaumeb]

18. There is a movie called

the Occupation of the American Mind that does a very good job of explaining how so-called friends of Israel in the US were able to frame the narrative of Israel as the victim in this conflict.

[malaise]

19. The Fundies are also a big part of the problem

I need to watch that movie - thanks

[TrollBuster9090]

11. Besides two wrongs apparently making a right, what does this have to do with settlements?

And the resolution was not 'anti-Israel.' It went out of its way to avoid criticizing Israel, per se, and criticizes the ongoing process of expanding settlements on occupied land based on international law and international conventions.

[Mosby]

12. It is anti-Israel and anti-Jewish

Do you know who was the last President to promote the propaganda that Jerusalem is occupied territory in a Security Council resolution?

Ronald Reagan.

UNSCR 605.

Nice company.

Eta

UN vote tops Wiesenthal list of top 10 antisemitic, anti-Israel cases in 2016
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/UN-vote-tops-Wiesenthal-top-10-lit-of-antisemitic-anti-Israel-cases-476646

[TrollBuster9090]

13. I think you mean East Jerusalem, and it was annexed by Israel after the Six Day War.

(Cue the blather about who was there first, and for how many thousand years.)

It's not propaganda, it's a historical fact, and is part of the Green Line dispute. East Jerusalem was annexed as a result of war, and therefore falls under international law regarding territories annexed by war.

That being said, I'm not interested in going down the rabbit hole of how long Jews vs. Arabs have lived there. It's quaint from the viewpoint of ancient history, but it's irrelevant in 2016. EVERY CITY in Europe and Asia has multiple historical claims made on it by multiple ethnic groups, all of which have been changed by war and diplomacy over the last century. Ownership of those cities can't be resolved on purely historical grounds; and Jerusalem shouldn't be any different.

Other than that...can you find me an example of an 'anti-Jewish' quote in the text of the Resolution?

[Xolodno]

20. That's easy....

The Jebusites were there first, a Canaanite tribe.

David took the town when he needed to shore up his political legitimacy. Enthralled in a Jewish civil war with one of Saul's heir's having a capital in his own tribal area would have no doubt extended the civil war. Having a capital in one of the other tribes in opposition would make things very dangerous if they decided they were done with him. Then when you add that he had a significant detachment of non-Jewish soldiers (which no doubt any housing tribe would have despised), taking "starting fresh" was a very smart politically.

The Jebusites may have even "helped" (perhaps bad leadership) him out due to the ease in which he took this desert rock that was for all intents and purposes a pit stop for traveling traders, it was only inhabited because of the natural spring supplying water.

But yeah, its pretty much a pointless debate. The city has changed hands so many times under so many empires, history is pretty much a moot point.

[TrollBuster9090]

21. Haha! Thanks! I guess that's why Yassir Arafat always claimed to be a descendent of

the Jebusites, in the 'I was here first' department.

Yassir Arafat (not exactly as shown)

[TrollBuster9090]

14. PS-By the way, just FYI, I don't deny that many of the people living in the countries that voted for

the resolution are anti-semites. And I don't deny that Israel is situated in the middle of the biggest hotbed of anti-semitism and anti-liberalism in the world. But as I said, I don't think two wrongs make a right; and the settlements are wrong.