Could Putin have planted child porn to blackmail Trump?

[ehrnst]

Just throwing that out there - that would be the one thing that would be the deal breaker with his disciples...

Foes of Russia Say Child Pornography Is Planted to Ruin Them
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In April last year, the veteran Soviet dissident, a onetime confidant of Margaret Thatcher, finally found out what was going on: The Crown Prosecution Service announced that he faced five charges of making indecent images of children, five charges of possession of indecent images of children and one charge of possession of a prohibited image.

The case was supposed to go to court in May in Cambridge but, after Mr. Bukovsky, 73, entered a not-guilty plea it was delayed until Dec. 12. This followed a prosecution request for more time to review an independent forensic report on what had been found on Mr. Bukovsky’s computers and how an unidentified third party had probably put it there.

“The whole affair is Kafkaesque,” Mr. Bukovsky said in an interview. “You not only have to prove you are not guilty but that you are innocent.” He insisted that he was the victim of a new and particularly noxious form of an old K.G.B. dirty trick known as kompromat, the fabrication and planting of compromising or illegal material.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/world/europe/vladimir-putin-russia-fake-news-hacking-cybersecurity.html

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. It's more likely they've got dirt about stuff he actually did.

Which isn't to say he does not enjoy kiddie porn (his comments about young girls make you wonder), but I don't think they need to plant any fake dirt on him. There's bound to be real dirt out there - involvement with the mob, for example. I have no doubt Trump is about as crooked as they come and is capable of any kind of crime to make a buck and protect his brand - who knows whether he's even used mob goons to get people killed? These days computer forensics can determine whether something has been planted. If the Russians are blackmailing Trump it's for something he really did.

[shraby]

2. I don't think they need to fabricate anything either. What they have is what he did.

[Ilsa]

7. I think you're right. He's been showing us

who he is, how he lives, how he does business, and how he treats people for years. Past is prologue.

[Greybnk48]

11. I agree. There's probably plenty of disgusting dirt

on him. No need to make anything up.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. You have wonder... look at the sexual comments Cheetoh-Face made about his own daughter!!! THAT should tell you somethin.

[Hortensis]

22. Also agree. Many analysts are hinting their suspicion

that something like this could be occurring. They feel the Kremlin has to have criminal-level dirt on Trump, the question being if they're using it.

Given the reported use of this porn technique, though, I wouldn't rule it out more than...90% or so? The outstanding underage rape charge brought against Trump would make manufactured evidence of more crimes that much more potentially damaging. And charges of molesting children might actually, finally, be too much for followers who have no problem with massive swindling, massive corruption, fascination with nuclear destruction, and sexual preying on women.

Btw, despite that charge, Trump's lifelong pattern is for young, beautiful women--and attempted finger rape of mature attractive women--but not for children.

[WhiteTara]

3. They probably didn't have to plant child pornography

he is an alleged child rapist and taking pictures would not be a stretch for the POS

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. Nothing would shock me when it comes to that perverted racist fuck.

[unblock]

4. Honestly I think he might be too stupid to be blackmailed

He probably thinks he can "win" even if someone has blatantly incriminating video star toxic trump himself.

I think he's easy led by the thought of gold, though.

[LonePirate]

5. The deplorables wouldn't care about that. However ...

If Putin has pictures of him in bed with a black or Hispanic transsexual, then anything is possible.

[Ilsa]

9. They won't care as long as

the Fucktrumpet is dominant. They just don't want to see him submitting to a black or hispanic transsexual.

[radical noodle]

6. I think it's all about money

That's my motto with Trump... Follow the money. But anything is possible at this point.

[hatrack]

8. I think he sent some 14-year-olds to Trump's hotel suite in Moscow . . .

And Trump, stupid, shitbird hornweasel that he is, "partook", and the videos are securely in Putin's paws, waiting for the right moment for release.

[ehrnst]

10. As per Mother Jones:

With the Washington Post's bombshell report that the CIA has assessed that the Russian hacking of Democratic targets was done as part of a Kremlin operation to help Donald Trump win the election, here's an intriguing question: Has Russian intelligence spied on the president-elect and, if so, what private information has it collected on him? A counterintelligence veteran of a Western spy service in October told Mother Jones that he had uncovered information—and had sent it to the FBI—indicating Russian intelligence had mounted a yearslong operation to cultivate or co-opt Trump and that this project included surveillance that gathered compromising material on the celebrity mogul. Yet there have been no indications from the FBI whether it has investigated this lead. Still, several intelligence professionals say Trump would have indeed been a top priority for Russian intelligence surveillance—especially when he was in Moscow in November 2013 for the Miss Universe pageant, which he owned at the time.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/russian-intelligence-trump-moscow

[moondust]

12. In Moscow.

When Donald Trump brought Miss Universe to Moscow

(Veteran spy) claimed that Russian intelligence had "compromised" Trump during his visits to Moscow and could "blackmail him."

ETA: Possible that both Trump and Putin know that whatever it is he's holding is so disgusting and/or criminal that if Putin were to release it it would be the end of Donald J. Trump. That leaves Trump with no choice but to follow Putin's orders.

[mopinko]

17. me too. and i think they urged him to run. talked him into it, even.

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how long has he lived in the tower? how much did he (over)pay for his unit? whose money was it?

no way putin would hang out what they have hung out for someone they hoped would be nice to have around. they own him.

[DoctorMyEyes]

15. I'm fairly convinced it was something humiliating to Trump

Trump is an NPD and whenever I thought about whether they had a tape of underage girls, live boys or even dead girls I couldn't see Trump being phased by it. But... If he was desperate for money/investment and no banks were touching him - back against the wall... I can see Putin forcing him to suck him off in return for his help. That's probably why Trump, in order to protect his own ego, thinks he and Putin are some sort of "partners" in this world domination game. He can't think of himself as weak or a puppet. And he absolutely DOES NOT want to be humiliated. Or have his financial failure revealed. (Daddy issues too!)

My two cents.

[sarcasmo]

16. Billions owed to the Russian Government/Mob would be the logical choice.

[brooklynite]

18. Why do people assume Trump doesn't actually like and admire Putin?

[Aristus]

19. Hell no.

Trump's supporters would just love him all the more if they thought he was a child-porn perv.

They're that twisted...

[Wounded Bear]

20. I doubt it, because of Occam's Razor...

The simplest explanation. He never showed his tax returns. He probably owes the Russians billions of dollars. Digging too deeply into his records would reveal all of his foreign entanglements and how deeply he owes so much to them.

[jmowreader]

21. No need

In all the security briefings I attended, we learned the KGB and GRU had three main ways to blackmail someone into becoming an agent: money, drugs and sex.

I put them in that order for a good reason.

My money is on the SVR using Trump's money problems to control him. Since no US bank will deal with him, he's been funding through foreign banks for quite some time. No bank is going to lend Donald Trump enough money to erect a skyscraper without knowing how likely they are to get it back - and the one thing Trump is most apoplectic about is anyone knowing just how little money he really has. Put 'em together and it's pretty clear: they can use Trump's fear of embarrassment over the fact he has no cash to drag him around by the nose.

Now let's talk drugs. If Donald Trump is NOT a tweaker he's doing a damn good imitation of one. Where's he getting the drugs? Possibly the only thing Trump is more scared of than the American people finding out he's got less than a month's money on hand, is them learning the names of his drug suppliers and what drugs he likes to take.

Sex? No. There are two things everyone should be able to agree on about Trump: he is a sexual satyr and he has control of the media. Let's throw a wild supposition out there: the SVR has video of him receiving gay sex. If they drop this video on the news media, within 12 hours we'll "know" Hillary built this video all by her lonesome just to destroy Trump.

[Vinca]

23. He's got something on him. I suspect he owns him.