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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 05:50 PM Dec 2016

More on the hacking of the US Election Assistance Commission. NOT GOOD.

They caught one hacker trying to sell information -- but for all they know there could have been other independent hackers.

Also, put this hack together with the discovery that the voting systems used in many states ARE connected to the internet and vulnerable to hacking.

It's harder and harder to believe that our election tabulators themselves weren't hacked.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/russian-speaking-hacker-breached-america-s-voting-machine-certification-agency-511025.shtml

According to a report published by the firm, the hacker managed to breach EAC systems and access credentials, including some with administrative privileges.

“These administrative accounts could potentially be used to access sensitive information as well as surreptitiously modify or plant malware on the EAC site, effectively staging a watering hole attack utilizing an official government resource,” the company says.

The hacker was trying to sell vulnerabilities in EAC systems to Recorded Future engineers, explaining that he managed to break into computers using an SQL injection flaw that was still unpatched.

Furthermore, it appeared that the hacker was already involved in talks with a Middle Eastern government, but more specifics were not available.

“It’s unclear how long the EAC vulnerability has been active; however, it could have been potentially discovered and accessed by several parties independently,” Recorded Future says.

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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/critical-new-discovery-during-wisconsin-recount-cellular-connectivity-of-tabulators-leaves-door-open-to-hacking-300379050.html

MADISON, Wis., Dec. 15, 2016 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A huge security hole in our US elections, which allows alteration of vote totals by outsider or insider entities, was discovered during the Wisconsin recount, according to electronic security investigators from RecountNow.org.

A cellular capability is available as an option on the latest Election Systems and Software (ES&S) DS200 model of optical scanner.


"Cellular connectivity at the precinct level is bad," says IT specialist Jim March-Simpson, who, along with forensic investigator John Brakey, discovered and examined the vulnerability, "but the precinct-level scanners can open an internet channel to the central vote tabulator." March-Simpson is referring to a central unit that collects and adds vote totals from a whole region.

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An entity with "government-level resources . . . could completely 'own' the electoral process," March-Simpson says. "If the central vote tabulator does not have the best possible security, then even a good hacker with a normal PC can get in," he reports.

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There are currently over 26,500 ES&S DS200 optical scan vote-counting machines in 25 states. It is not yet known how many of them have the cellular capability at present, nor whether other equipment models have the same or similar capabilities. DS200 scanners count ballots electronically; ballots are fed in by hand but are counted by a computer inside in accordance with programmable instructions.


ON EDIT: Here is another expert opinion on the hackability of our voting system.

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/talking-cyber-security-with-a-norwich-expert/Content?oid=3882847


SD: You're assuming the job of Norwich's chief information security officer at a critical moment in history. This is the first time that cyber warfare may have played a role in the outcome of a U.S. presidential election.

GS: I can't speak specifically to that because I don't know who the malicious actors were, and I don't think we actually know yet. But you're right, we're starting to use technology more and more, especially in elections. We have the electronic voting machines now that are definitely susceptible to cyber attack. I don't think there's a solution to that right now. And it's going to continue to be a problem simply because, for the manufacturers of these devices, their audience is so small. It's local and state governments, and there's no real incentive for them to build security into them. I'm not picking on any one of them. It's just the way it is.

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More on the hacking of the US Election Assistance Commission. NOT GOOD. (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2016 OP
This is more important than Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #1
I think he feels Grrrrrrrrreat! LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #14
We live in a data driven society today. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #16
I think he feels Grrrrrrrrreat! LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #25
mitch mcconnell bdamomma Dec 2016 #19
Please pnwmom post this triron Dec 2016 #2
Okay! pnwmom Dec 2016 #3
No. Not good at all greatbaldeagle Dec 2016 #4
The freakin sneaky Republican-Russian cabal hates democracy Achilleaze Dec 2016 #5
If we're going to do anything about it, we better do it soon while we still have the world wide wally Dec 2016 #6
What can the President do? Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #18
Keep the troops on our side world wide wally Dec 2016 #20
K & R for visibility shraby Dec 2016 #7
So how do we call LOUDLY for President Obama to do something while he can? Crash2Parties Dec 2016 #8
This isn't an area for the President rather it's one for the House and Senate and cstanleytech Dec 2016 #27
Um...the GOP House? and the GOP Senate? Well, cr*p.... Crash2Parties Dec 2016 #33
I said they should I didnt say they would. nt cstanleytech Dec 2016 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #9
K&R!! Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #10
I am more certain than ever the election results were a fraud. Fla Dem Dec 2016 #11
Yep I heard recently that 3 counties made all the difference Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #12
Yep. And lest we forget 75K vots weren't counted in Detroit and Flint...wonder why (rhetorical) nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #23
"A cellular capability is available as an option ronnie624 Dec 2016 #13
Where in the article does it say that the option was ordered? hardluck Dec 2016 #26
Someone ordered the machines. ronnie624 Dec 2016 #28
The article doesn't say that it was present hardluck Dec 2016 #29
The article strongly implies ronnie624 Dec 2016 #30
Here's a much better description of the machines hardluck Dec 2016 #31
Thanks for that. ronnie624 Dec 2016 #32
If the Russians are as bad as everyone is saying and we have a Republican President and Congress.. jalan48 Dec 2016 #15
Yeap, nuke codes hacked too... battle plans... communications systems... proper fucked uponit7771 Jan 2017 #38
SQL Injection is a pretty sophisticated attack to execute, but easily patched rendered harmless. Calista241 Dec 2016 #17
KNR Lucinda Dec 2016 #21
This is important, pnwmom. brer cat Dec 2016 #22
What is "cellular capability"? Ilsa Dec 2016 #24
These machines can be set up so they're controlled through the internet. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #36
kick for visibility triron Dec 2016 #35
Have they sent their report to the FBI or anyone Blue_Roses Jan 2017 #37
It's TREASON, and people are all shruggy-shoulders LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #40
kick! nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #39
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. This is more important than
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 06:01 PM
Dec 2016

all of the previous disclosures . Every Voter is effected if this is proven. Wonder how Mitch McConnell feels now.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
14. I think he feels Grrrrrrrrreat!
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:37 PM
Dec 2016

He hasn't wiped that smile from his face since election day. He doesn't care how they won, only that they did win.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. We live in a data driven society today.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:54 PM
Dec 2016

If it is proven,that private data has been captured by a foreign country and is exploited,well,McConnell and his Spouses Data will be used for that countries gain.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
25. I think he feels Grrrrrrrrreat!
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 08:29 PM
Dec 2016

Couldn't agree more...

And Yertle and his party will REALLY feel great, because under a tRumputin DOJ there won't be any REAL investigations (If that), and this--along with what will be MORE voter disenfranchisement happening 2 years from now, cyber-hacking and meddling in our elections will help them further cement their Kleptocracy in 2018 and in 2020 and beyond. They can't wait for the 2018 midterms and for the GE & redistricting that'll take place in 2020, where they'll be looking into gaining the 1 or 2 state legislatures that they need to change/modify Amendments in the Constitution. Wouldn't put it past them to "allow" another foreign entity to help them further destroy their OWN country by overturning Amendments in the Constitution which would further benefit them and their agenda. SMDH.

As for the media, 95% of the so-called liberal media that never existed has their corporate media noses buried so deeply up in the behind of their president, Cheeto Mussolini, that they could care LESS about voter disenfranchisement, or interference by a foreign government as long as they get high ratings by covering the tweets and ramblings of that racist, ignorant, feces throwing monkey Cheeto Mussolini. THEIR president. NOT mine.

We Dems are so screwed.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
6. If we're going to do anything about it, we better do it soon while we still have the
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 06:15 PM
Dec 2016

Presidency at least.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
27. This isn't an area for the President rather it's one for the House and Senate and
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 08:52 PM
Dec 2016

the voters need to put pressure on them to do their damn jobs and if that means it shows that Trump should not have been declared the winner so be it.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
33. Um...the GOP House? and the GOP Senate? Well, cr*p....
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:01 PM
Dec 2016

And it's fast getting to the point where speaking out against Trump results in death threats from his even-less-stable "fans"...

Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Fla Dem

(23,661 posts)
11. I am more certain than ever the election results were a fraud.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:23 PM
Dec 2016

It took so very little to change results in just a few counties in critical states to alter the election results.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
13. "A cellular capability is available as an option
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:36 PM
Dec 2016

on the latest Election Systems and Software (ES&S) DS200 model of optical scanner."

Hmm. I wonder why that is there. And I wonder who ordered the option for Wisconsin. I'll bet "the Russians" didn't have anything to do with it.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
28. Someone ordered the machines.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 09:37 PM
Dec 2016

How else would an available option be present? Obviously they can be had with or without it.

hardluck

(638 posts)
29. The article doesn't say that it was present
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 09:50 PM
Dec 2016

Only that it is an available option on those machines. At least that's my reading of a somewhat vague article.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
30. The article strongly implies
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:01 PM
Dec 2016

that the capability for cellular access to the tabulators exists. That's the whole point here.

jalan48

(13,864 posts)
15. If the Russians are as bad as everyone is saying and we have a Republican President and Congress..
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:40 PM
Dec 2016

Well, we're fucked.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
17. SQL Injection is a pretty sophisticated attack to execute, but easily patched rendered harmless.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:55 PM
Dec 2016

it's much more time consuming to find, and even the most superficial scan of website logs can uncover a SQL Injection attack. it's also been around for awhile, so i'm surprised it hasn't been patched at this point.

It's also a WAY different kind of hack than the Spearfishing attacks attributed to the Russians so far.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
37. Have they sent their report to the FBI or anyone
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 12:30 AM
Jan 2017

else who will listen? This is some serious stuff and it needs to dealt with NOW.

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