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I'm Back. And I Was Right. (Original Post) msanthrope Jan 2017 OP
Welcome back... SidDithers Jan 2017 #1
Thanks, Skinner. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #5
That is SidDithers, not Skinner. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #24
Easy mistake with that uncanny resemblance pinboy3niner Jan 2017 #31
Sid is Skinner. They have the same IP address. msanthrope Jan 2017 #32
I never saw that thread. Do you have a link? (Was it DU2?) nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #38
Our overlords, Admin, have provided a search box in the upper right hand corner msanthrope Jan 2017 #45
I wouldn't know what search terms to use to find that thread. tblue37 Jan 2017 #63
You were damn right!! bravenak Jan 2017 #2
Every Fucking Time. So were you. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #7
They should listen next time. But they won't, lol.nt bravenak Jan 2017 #19
So was I! Going to chime right in here, msanthrope.. I remember Cha Jan 2017 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2017 #3
Peltier is going to die in prison. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2017 #6
No....he's not. But he blew his chance when he ran. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #8
Others differ strongly with your opiniin uppityperson Jan 2017 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2017 #20
right on point G_j Jan 2017 #41
As a criminal defense attorney, I analyze his case from a legal point of view.... msanthrope Jan 2017 #43
You seem to have missed the important bit "according to the governments theory" uppityperson Jan 2017 #57
A jury found him guilty. That's a fact. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #58
Juries do find innocent people guilty. That's a fact. Nt uppityperson Jan 2017 #64
+ 1,000 Achilleaze Jan 2017 #40
Thank you for proving my point.....he's guilty, but as I explained below.... msanthrope Jan 2017 #44
+++++++ uppityperson Jan 2017 #12
right about what??? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #9
Welcome to DU. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #11
Good to see you back! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2017 #10
Thank you....time pick up the swords again. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #13
I knew you couldn't leave those swords laying around forever! Moosepoop Jan 2017 #55
! Arazi Jan 2017 #14
What is this for? Just exit the thread if you don't like us. Hekate Jan 2017 #16
lol RandiFan1290 Jan 2017 #39
Narcissistic? ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #51
So good to see you again, msanthrope Hekate Jan 2017 #15
I missed it. What did you say about each? tavalon Jan 2017 #18
Welcome home msanthrope everything is probably prettry much Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #21
Meme merde, anne diffrente. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #46
Welcome back! betsuni Jan 2017 #22
welcome back still_one Jan 2017 #23
What were you right about? Out of that group Manning is the one who doesn't quite fit in brush Jan 2017 #25
i missed your posts, especially on this JI7 Jan 2017 #26
What is this in reference to? nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #27
Are you back sagesnow Jan 2017 #28
I never left. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #33
Welcome back! stevenleser Jan 2017 #29
kick Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #30
Yes you surely were right, and it's good to have you back Hekate Jan 2017 #35
Well, not always. cwydro Jan 2017 #36
We won the general election. Trump won the electoral college. She is the legimate msanthrope Jan 2017 #47
but sadly the orange jerk is the one occupying the WH. nt Javaman Jan 2017 #49
Um, no. cwydro Jan 2017 #52
She won the election. Are you suggesting Trump is legitimate? nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #56
Heh, heh, heh JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #37
Welcome Back, Ms. ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #42
Yes you were. ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #48
It's about time! randome Jan 2017 #50
Welcome back. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #53
Welcome back Gothmog Jan 2017 #54
. Cooley Hurd Jan 2017 #59
Because I wasn't done working for the HRC campaign, and I msanthrope Jan 2017 #60
Welcome back! Scurrilous Jan 2017 #61
Yes, we were right. Manning was unstable and used terribly. Snowden was a spy KittyWampus Jan 2017 #62
Yes, I read some of what you posted. herding cats Jan 2017 #65
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
32. Sid is Skinner. They have the same IP address.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 03:55 AM
Jan 2017

Perhaps you missed that legendary thread. It was epic......like the moon bombing thread.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
45. Our overlords, Admin, have provided a search box in the upper right hand corner
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jan 2017

for all those unfamiliar with the inside baseball aspects of this board.

tblue37

(65,391 posts)
63. I wouldn't know what search terms to use to find that thread.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 08:03 PM
Jan 2017

Was the thread title something like "Is SidDithers Skinner?"

Is this the right thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026266129

Cha

(297,274 posts)
34. So was I! Going to chime right in here, msanthrope.. I remember
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:02 AM
Jan 2017

you distinctly on those threads.. I was very grateful for your posts.

Especially greenwald, assange, putin, and snowden.

Back!

Response to msanthrope (Original post)

Response to msanthrope (Reply #4)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
17. Others differ strongly with your opiniin
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 11:34 PM
Jan 2017
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/ct-leonard-peltier-should-be-released-in-the-interest-of-justice-20170117-story.html
onse to your Monday editorial “Clemency for Leonard Peltier? Never,” I was the United States attorney who supervised the prosecution of Leonard Peltier during the critical post-trial period. In December 2016, I wrote to President Barack Obama to support his clemency petition “as being in the best interests of justice in considering the totality of all matters involved.”

Although no trial is perfect, Peltier’s was unusually troublesome, particularly when viewed with the benefit of hindsight. The case against Peltier was a moving target, which shifted from a “deliberate ambush” theory in the earlier trial of Peltier’s co-defendants (who were found not guilty) to a “deliberate execution” at Peltier’s subsequent trial before a different judge, and then to an “accomplice” theory on appeal.

As an “aider and abettor,” according to the government’s theory, Peltier was guilty of the murders because he was present, and he had a weapon. It was a very thin case that likely would not be upheld by courts today. It is a gross overstatement to label Peltier a “cold-blooded murderer” on the basis of the minimal proof that survived the appeals in his case.

Following the conclusion of the appeals, Judge Gerald Heaney, an Eighth Circuit judge who sat on two of the appeals, took the extraordinary step of writing to the Senate Select Committee on Indian Affairs urging it to grant clemency to Peltier in 1991.

Considering all of the surrounding factors, including the prevailing worldview of the time, the FBI’s role in the creation of dangerous conditions on Pine Ridge, the manner in which the case was investigated and prosecuted and the extraordinary length of time already served, in my opinion, Peltier should be released in the interests of justice.

The government has gotten almost 41 years, and 41 pounds of flesh; Peltier is old and sick, and in my opinion, any more time served would be vindictive.

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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
43. As a criminal defense attorney, I analyze his case from a legal point of view....
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jan 2017

His co-defendant were aquitted. Running seriously jeopardized his chances. Had he stood trial when he was charged originally, he would have stood a great chance of the same.

Do I think he has served enough? Yes.....he has paid. If BHO pardons him, I won't regret it.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
57. You seem to have missed the important bit "according to the governments theory"
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jan 2017

Just Theory, not reality.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
44. Thank you for proving my point.....he's guilty, but as I explained below....
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jan 2017

enough time served. I won't regret a pardon.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
21. Welcome home msanthrope everything is probably prettry much
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:01 AM
Jan 2017

where you left it.

It's like the Hotel California . . . "you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave . . ."





JI7

(89,250 posts)
26. i missed your posts, especially on this
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:06 AM
Jan 2017

and yes, it has come out now but if one actually paid attention then they would have seen it before also.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
36. Well, not always.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 05:29 AM
Jan 2017

I remember distinctly your putting down of certain posters who were worried about the GE.

Your favorite response was "Thanks for your concern."

It wasn't me, but I saw you do it often.

So anyway.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
47. We won the general election. Trump won the electoral college. She is the legimate
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 09:27 AM
Jan 2017

45...not him.

I was right.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
52. Um, no.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 10:16 AM
Jan 2017

She is not the president.

You were wrong to chide people on their concerns that this might happen.

It happened.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
50. It's about time!
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 10:13 AM
Jan 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
62. Yes, we were right. Manning was unstable and used terribly. Snowden was a spy
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jan 2017

Greenwald will do anything to get hits and Assange still has never had Wikileaks put up anything damaging to Putin.

However, I have made a few mistakes and been wrong a few times over the years.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
65. Yes, I read some of what you posted.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 10:30 PM
Jan 2017

I'm sure I missed some, but one extremely well sourced and researched post by you taught me a lot. It took me a weekend to get through all the articles, but I still learned a lot in the process!

Welcome back!

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