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JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
1. Bet Obama was an awesome Stratego player when he was a little kid
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 08:17 AM
Jan 2017

Trump on the other other hand, probably would have been bombed out of the game immediately.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
3. That's what I was thinking, too. If Trump pulls them back, it's a clear sign he's serving Pootie
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 08:47 AM
Jan 2017

and no one else. I also expect sanctions will be removed.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
4. Trump's allegiance is already apparent.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 09:37 AM
Jan 2017

The question remains though, at what point will that allegiance generate a consequence from anyone in government or law enforcement.



 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. I think there may also be another trap
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jan 2017

Most of Trump followers view Chelsea Manning as a traitor. Will Trump applaud or condemn president Obama's commutation of Manning's sentence? I'm guessing he condemns it which will tick off his good buddy Assange.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
10. If you haven't figured it out by now, we are in even more trouble than I thought.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jan 2017

Trump is already acting on Putin's orders and his plan is working beautifully.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
14. Yes, I understand that.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jan 2017

It is one more situation that creates a choice Trump must make. Removing the troops will be an open, conspicuous task to appease Putin, vs not ordering them to the east to begin with. He may have to answer for it.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
16. To whom? To whom must he answer?
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jan 2017

To the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? Chaired by whom? To the Department of State? Operated by whom? To the press, to whom selected tidbits will be dribbled and spun in exchange for "access"? To the intelligence community, who is busily at war with itself?

To the people, for whom this is just another episode of reality TV?

There are few checks on this man; fewer still that have a hope of proving effective.

At one time I'd hoped that some cooler heads would prevail amongst the Congress and cabinet--or maybe even the Joint Chiefs--but I see precious few of these, and the obstacles the brave ones face are mighty.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
17. It won't matter without hard evidence of his loyalty to
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jan 2017

Russia. But it will, perhaps, open some eyes. It appears to be better than doing nothing at all, and we don't know what fruit this bring.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
11. Yeah...
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 10:54 AM
Jan 2017

Yeah, but then tRUMP just spins it! With the sanctions, tRUMP says he'll left them if Putin helps us defeat ISIS. He'll come up with something else for this latest trap. And, his followers will just believe him (including those in the administration and in Congress)!

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
15. All he has to do is get something for their withdrawal in an exchange.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:39 PM
Jan 2017

I don't think it'll be that hard. Maybe Edward Snowden's extradition, or some vague promise to stick it to the Iranians.

Having the troops there is something Trump will view as leverage to be exploited in exchange for something.

But I agree, he doesn't want the troops there long term. Probably he only people that do are the Poles.

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