A 30 yrs' friend(?) has revealed herself as a Deplorable, but the signs were there before

[UTUSN]

Last edited Wed Jan 18, 2017, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)

She and I were co-workers for over twenty years in what is a “Helping” related profession, were in a small group of friends outside of work. We didn’t discuss politics over that time, but I assumed that we were all on the same page because of the nature of our work. She *did* have a streak of pointedness towards others and we had a couple of breaks in our interactions over that time. Once she asked me, “Have you ever thought that Hitler was right?!1” I was shocked, but there was no discussion as to what she meant by that and we all brushed it off as part of her eccentric drama. She also quoted from the New Testament, mostly from Paul/Acts, occasionally but not often enough to think she was a Fundie, and the quotes were about women being subservient to the spouse, which, since she was an independent single mother, seemed to be incongruent, but which also took away from considering her a Fundie.

We didn’t have contact during our first ten years of retirement, and when we ran into each other and began a little socializing again, I was shocked that she was a Faux News fanatic, parrot, vehement, vicious. I soon said we had to have a pact if we were to continue, NO politics. We have generally abided by this, although a new tenseness was evident. In all our near 30 years, the two people she referred to with invariable admiration were her father and her brother.

So we had a flare-up of politics before the Election and e-mail contact has gone silent. Until this morning when she Forwarded to me her e-mail exchange with her beloved brother. My Reply below is couched in “religious” terms (I’m a Secular Humanist, if anything) to poke at her Pharisaical cover.

Her brother sent her this:

********QUOTE****

Are we nuts or what?

as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day." Romans 11:8


“Claim: Principal said teachers who stop student cheating are engaging in 'discrimination' - The College Fix www.thecollegefix.com”

More defining deviancy down

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To which she replied (to him) this:

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Don't check restrooms, well, don't take pictures of Clinton' meeting with Lynch, what's the difference? 81% black, so don't give grades, that's white supremacy. What next? Living in (another country) doesn't look so bad

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And I replied to her:


Here are MY favorite Bible quotations, parrying what you sent me:


Douay-Rheims Bible
"Into whatsoever house you enter, first say: Peace be to this house." - Luke 10:5

Douay-Rheims Bible
"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: going forth out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet." - Matthew 10:14

"A prophet is not without honor save in his own country." – John 4:44, Mark 6:4, Luke 4:24


************ But aside from your vengeful epistles, I’m full of wonder: Why me? And, you have your new God, Donald John DRUMPF (that’s his original German name, grandson & son of immigrants, why does he hate them so?), and you are VICTORIOUS, so why are you SO unhappy? Could it be that your new God DRUMPF has a vision of darkness and GREED and devastation????? And DRUMPF has been asked about HIS favorite Bible verses, but can’t answer, I wonder why? And, why is your religiosity SO full of HATE and PRIDE and JUDGMENT and VENGEFULNESS? I would certainly expect that those professing to be Christians would show: Humility, love, gentleness, charity. I hear that your God DRUMPF is going to defile the LINCOLN Bible for doing his SWEARING. Here’s the real thing:


“With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations." – LINCOLN

[Skittles]

1. all I know is

if someone said to me, "Have you ever thought Hitler was right?" I would be done with them right then and there.

[CurtEastPoint]

2. Same here. People like this are beyond hope. Bye, Felicia.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. No shit. That was a red flag, bigly (sic).

[SoCalMusicLover]

5. Should Have Responded

"Have you ever thought Osama Bin Laden was right?"

[whathehell]

6. Good one..

[UTUSN]

8. In my defense, she has this Auntie Mame flamboyance

(I'm aware Auntie was on the good side) and we took it as attention-getting. Why does my ass feel kicked?!1

[Skittles]

15. I guess a comment like that would chill me to the bone

to me, only a sociopath / psychopath thinks like that

[UTUSN]

17. O.K., sweets, you know me, & I vividly described my shock.

We're talking about one something that has stuck out for me in a 30yrs period of a complex context (not a daily relationship). Now don't call in the pinboy on me!1

[roamer65]

11. Ditto.

[bettyellen]

12. How do you NOT call someone out on that disgusting crap? Enabling to ignore it.

Guess what OP, there don't have to be Jewish people around to call out someone who's signaling they have Nazi sympathies. You just have to have a spine and a conscience.

[UTUSN]

13. My spine & conscience are shown by my restraint with you, here. Thx nt

[sarah FAILIN]

16. agreed.

Walk away.

[demmiblue]

18. It amazes me that this got removed:

14. Save it for your Nazi loving friends.

I mean, really... his friend said: "Have you ever thought Hitler was right?"

[UTUSN]

19. See my post #17, but also by reposting the original offense

You are doing a re-offense & Meta.

[demmiblue]

20. Alert on me, then.

Again, your friend said: "Have you ever thought Hitler was right?"

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT HITLER WAS RIGHT?

[UTUSN]

21. I don't Alert maliciously. If there had been cute empojis back then I would have used them

[Skittles]

23. it's a bit harsh

it makes it sound like UTUSN has a penchant for befriending Nazi-sympathizers, which is not true; for sure this gal is an aberration

[UTUSN]

24. I *KNEW* I luerved you for well deserved reasons!!!!1

[Skittles]

27. heh

I know the feeling when someone you think you know goes off the rails....it truly does suck

[hollowdweller]

22. 2 people have said that to me. Left me speechless

One was a white guy I worked with that was a racist talking about gay people.
"Hitler was right about those people"

The other was a black guy muslim I worked with very liberal in most ways who said about Jews "Hitler was right about those people"

[UTUSN]

25. It's such a gobsmacked event when it happens. Ty. n/t

[avebury]

26. Totally Agree! NT

[DUgosh]

4. They are still so full of rage

.

[braddy]

7. She may correct you on Trump being the "son" of an immigrant, and mention how many centuries ago

the family name went from Drumpf to Trump. Fred Trump was born here in 1905 after his dad immigrated here in the 1800s.

"a German surname, from a word for "drum." Donald Trump's ancestors changed the family surname from "Drumpf" to "Trump," but the timing of that change isn't clear."

"Blair (2001) traces the ancestry of Frederick Trump to 17th-century Kallstadt in the German Palatinate. An itinerant lawyer called Hanns Drumpf is recorded there for 1608. In the late 17th century, one Johan Philip Trump was a winegrower in Kallstadt and a member of the local governing class.[3] Frederick Trump (previously called Friedrich Trump) was the son of Johannes Trump by his marriage to Katharina Kober, and was born in 1869 in Kallstadt, at the time part of the Kingdom of Bavaria. He emigrated to New York in 1885."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_(surname)

[UTUSN]

9. His mother was fresh from Scotland. nt

[braddy]

10. Oh right, because of the "Drumpf" I was thinking of the Trump line.