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Interesting article by the author of "Hitlerland: American Eyewitnesses to the Nazi Rise to Power.
http://forward.com/opinion/157832/jews-failed-to-spot-hitlers-menace/?attribution=author-article-listing-1-headline
In the very early 1920s, when Adolf Hitler was still only a local rabble rouser in Munich, two men from Munichs American consulate made a point of observing his rallies: Robert Murphy, the young acting consul, and Paul Drey, a German employee who was a member of a distinguished Bavarian Jewish family. Do you think these agitators will ever get far? Murphy asked his colleague. Of course not! Drey replied. The German people are much too intelligent to be taken in by such scamps.
Since the recent publication of my book Hitlerland: American Eyewitnesses to the Nazi Rise to Power, many people have asked me why American diplomats and journalists were often slow to recognize the threat that Hitler represented. Its a legitimate question, requiring more than a simple answer. But an equally legitimate question is why many German and American Jews were often just as slow in waking up to the Nazi danger.
Or slower. In fact, some Americans living in Germany were more alarmed by what they were witnessing than German Jews appeared to be. In late 1932, as Hitler was close to taking power, Edgar Ansel Mowrer, the Chicago Daily News correspondent who was one of the most perceptive observers on the scene, attended a dinner at the home of a prominent Jewish banker. All the other guests were also Jewish bankers, and Mowrer was startled to hear that some of them had given money to the Nazis at the urging of non-Jewish German industrialists.
When Mowrer expressed his astonishment at his dinner companions strong suicidal urge, his host insisted that Hitler shouldnt be taken seriously. The implication: The Nazi leader would never act on his most extreme rhetoric, and besides, the donations would keep him reasonable. To Jews who were more willing to listen, Mowrers advice was unequivocal: Get out, and fast.
JI7
(89,271 posts)Bettie
(16,126 posts)It's all happening again and there will be no one to come and help us.
treestar
(82,383 posts)even if laws like the Nuremberg laws were enacted by some state like Kansas - they would be found unconstitutional. Even a Supreme Court full of Scalias would find that.
Bettie
(16,126 posts)parts of the court than I do.
I don't think we can assume any protections whatsoever anymore.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)s-cubed
(1,385 posts)I know one Jewish family that survived in Berlin. How? A prescient family member bribed a parish priest to issue birth records. Some members of my husband's family, including his father and mother, got out. Many did not and died.
I think that denial was an important factor, one that we are seeing here. But I think the active, organized resistance we are seeing here MAY save us.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)that since their families had lived in Germany - some for three hundred years - they were safe from hitler. They thought they'd be considered German first. Believe me when I say Jews learned their lesson from that.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)'Jews always keep a suitcase packed'.
My grandparents (escapees from Russia, Ukraine and Poland) all said that.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)us they not only said it but did it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)1. The Bill of Rights
2. We don't have a weak economy like they had
3. Though a majority are still white, we have many non-white people, and they are varied themselves.
4. The group treated the worst, African Americans - we've passed laws and spent a lot of time trying to fix that.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...as this contemporary cartoon illustrated.
Likewise, many folks in the U.S. were unconcerned, so long as Hitler's actions only affected foreigners, as this Dr. Seuss cartoon illustrates:
treestar
(82,383 posts)Bill of Rights. That would be so hard to overcome. We are used to saying what we want and criticizing leaders. They couldn't get us to stop criticizing Bush even in "wartime."
wordpix
(18,652 posts)We will have to fight for them.
kairos12
(12,873 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)we fight for our rights.
I live in a red town in a red region in a blue state. In my town/region, the same old people and their chosen ones rule totally with no democratic rights for us unless we fight.
I am self-representing in a legal case where both state and local laws have been violated. We finally had to go to court b/c the town and state reps kept obstructing anything and everything we did to get them to adhere to the law.
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)America has been dumbed down by too much poor education at all levels and reality TV crap.
Idiots really think jobs are coming back that will make them what? Wealthy? The joke is on them.
Robots will do the majority of any such work 24/7.
kairos12
(12,873 posts)that in the 1930s in Germany the pessimists fled to New York and the optimists eventually were sent to Auschwitz.
LeftInTX
(25,556 posts)US had strict quotas.