Maxine Waters Just Intimated Intelligence WILL Indict Trump

[KittyWampus]

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She didn't leak anything but she made it clear how she was speaking... Trump is going down eventually and it will be because of Russian interference.

I am adding this to what Malcolm Nance said tonight on MSNBC (investigation is counter-intelligence which means there's a spy in Trumpland).

Christ Matthews reluctantly said things are going to eventually come out.

[woodsprite]

1. It's that word "eventually" that scares me.

What can he (and his cabal) push through before it finally does catch up with him. I talked to several women today at the march that were beside themselves thinking if Trump gets impeached, then we end up with Pence. I tried to tell them that Pence is in up his eye(balls) as well as Trump, but I understand their concern.

[Merlot]

37. So we get rid of dump and pense, then we get ryan

we get the same cabinent and appointees.

[bdamomma]

41. just a question

do you see that happening, but it seems like things are going to start unraveling for trump. not to be corny but the truth will prevail.

[Eliot Rosewater]

128. Before they take Trump down he will use a nuclear weapon to wag the dog

and to create a diversion.

I have believed this since before the russians installed him in November, that were he to get in he WH it would happen.

I want to be wrong but I see no other way for him to handle what is about to happen.

Get bottled water.

[bdamomma]

133. Oh god

I hope the nuclear aspect of this does not played but I read somewhere he was trying to get Iraq oil.by revisiting Iraq again. We know how sick he is...

If he goes over the line it was speculated or assumed the GOP will impeach him.

But we have the CIA too I am not promoting anything with this comment, but we know all about the CIA correct?

[Ligyron]

144. I seriously doubt it but if he does it will be Syria or northern Iraq.

Mosul

[royable]

44. Oh, they can likely pull up dirt on Ryan as well. n/t

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[2naSalit]

60. along with several other names we'd recognize.

[McKim]

70. Pence and Ryan are Not as Appealing to the Populists

Yes, but Trump is like a god to the populists, he is dangerously charismatic. Ryan and Pence are just garden variety republicans out for the money. They would never have the power that Trump has. It would be easier to expose them and oppose them and topple them than the Trumpster god.

[underthematrix]

77. No it's a huge network of traitors. Ryan probably knew about it while McConnell

was actively involved in it. I think we'll end up with President Biden

[BadgerMom]

79. +1

[MrModerate]

98. Nice thought, but how would that work, given he's just 'citizen Joe' right now?

[uponit7771]

124. +1

[Maraya1969]

110. I am hopeful that all the insanity that they are creating will turn us back

to blue in 2019 and 2021. Remember we got the presidency and both houses after Bush. And with Democratic push back and the media finally reporting on the truth we might have much better days ahead.

[BobTheSubgenius]

116. Let's say the process somehoe goes through all THREE of them,

...and then you get to Orrin Hatch. Orrin Fucking Hatch.

What has it come to when someone like him looks like the voice of reason, and he is a forlorn hope at best?

[Lochloosa]

132. We wouldn't get Ryan by default.

If Orange juice is impeached, Pence would become President. He then would name his VP. It does not have to be Ryan.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

134. If Trump's campaign is implicated in anything then I doubt Pence would take over

Then it would go to Ryan.

[Lochloosa]

138. He would. Then they would have to impeach him.

[DK504]

139. If it would ever come to that Cryn' Ryan would be under such a spotlight he won't be able to pee

without everyone knowing.

[Greybnk48]

141. Don't be surprised if Ryan and Priebus are dirty too.

It would not surprise me at all.

[tavalon]

66. Pence is the de facto President just as Cheney once was

But a roach can do so much more in the dark. Put Pence front and center so we know what that American Psycho is doing. We already know what Cheetolinni is doing and he's really just deflecting for the powers that be, including Pence, residing in Cheney's old undisclosed bunker.

That and my intense dislike of radiation sickness are two of the reason's I want the Pussy Grabber impeached. NOW!

[Duppers]

88. Yes, definitely.

Good post.

[llmart]

92. This...

is the truth.

Let's face it. Cheeto doesn't even know the first thing about how the government runs. He's just the front man to rile up the lowlifes who voted for him.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Shakespeare...(apologies to Aristus)...

“Let Hercules himself do what he may, The cat will mew and every dog will have his day.” Hamlet directs this statement to Laertes to express his feelings about the death of Ophelia.

And...

Nay, indeed, if you had your eyes, you might fail of
the knowing me: it is a wise father that knows his
own child. Well, old man, I will tell you news of
your son: give me your blessing: truth will come
to light; murder cannot be hid long; a man's son
may, but at the length truth will out. (2.2.69-74)

The Merchant of Venice

[Jacob Boehme]

36. Get thee to a Nunnery!

[Cracklin Charlie]

3. What did Malcolm say?

Just got here.

[KittyWampus]

7. the investigation is counter-intelligence which means there's at least one spy in Trumpland.

[cstanleytech]

16. If I was going to bet then my money would be on his wife or son in law. nt

[Sunny05]

28. Intriguing ...

gut feeling? Or thoughts you can share?

[cstanleytech]

67. Neither but a spy has to have access and his wife and son in law both have pretty

good access so if I was looking to get someone to spy on him to gather information one of those two are the ones I would look at.

[Sunny05]

76. Ahhh. Thanks. nt :-)

[7962]

30. Melania? Oh come on.

[kysrsoze]

38. Yeah, that's B.S. If it's anyone, it's his prior campaign manager.

Manafort promptly disappeared once his Russian ties were exposed.

[bdamomma]

56. oh yea

he did slither away like a snake

[Bernardo de La Paz]

65. Or maybe (ret./fired) Gen. Michael Flynn, who frequently calls Russian contacts. . . nt

[cstanleytech]

72. That's a potential past spy I am talking about potential current ones and the best spy is usually

the one with the best potential access to information.

[eggplant]

82. My money would be Ivanka.

She'd be poised to take over his empire. And deep down, I suspect she really hates him.

[cstanleytech]

85. Possible but hate rarely causes someone to spy and if it's family I don't see them doing it

for money as they are already wealthy, blackmail though works pretty well such as having incriminating video or photos having sex with someone other than your spouse can help grease the wheel to recruiting a spy.

[DeminPennswoods]

135. Her dad is a Slovenian Communist

Melania's dad is a card-carrying member of the Slovenian Communist Party.

[7962]

142. Was. Not now.

At that time under the communist system, it was beneficial. She's not gonna get much info from him compared to some of the other oddballs in his inner circle
I think you'd get more info being someone other than the 1st lady. Others could be involved in actual security meetings or something like that

[Sunny05]

25. Ohhh?

Ohhh-h-h-h ...

[Hamlette]

43. he didn't say there was a spy in the Trump camp. It could be counterintel in Russia

that's how I took it.

[George II]

62. My guess is Manafort

[SunSeeker]

125. +1

[Fantastic Anarchist]

86. My apologies for being dense, but do you mean ...

... a Russian spy in Trumpland, or opposition research spy?

[PatSeg]

103. I would think that it would be inevitable

that Trump would have a mole, maybe more than one, as he drew such disreputable characters to his campaign. What made him think he could trust so many self-serving hacks? Confidentiality agreements? He can't play the same games now that he is president and I'm sure there are people around him who are anxious to cover their asses before the shit hits the fan.

[colorado_ufo]

106. My money would be on Eric.

The one always pushed to the back but has access. Trump prefers his son-in-law over his sons, especially Eric.

[Eyeball_Kid]

112. Let's guess that it's Flynn, Manafort, Carter Page, Lewandowski, Bannon, and Conway. They're all in.

Oh. I forgot Roger Stone.

They all know about Putin's influence and the Russians' regular communications with the Trump Campaign. They're all accomplices. And I forgot one more accomplice: Trumpy himself.

Trumpy got money from Russia AND he made a deal with Putin to monitor Russian oligarchs in Florida. Trumpy's been VERY CO-OPERATIVE, says the Russians. And why? Because Putin holds the cards. He's got a few aces hidden in his sleeve. And Trumpy knows what Putin's got.

[Generator]

4. From her lips to Putin's ears

Hope.

[yallerdawg]

5. Why would anyone in their right mind piss off both the press...

and the intelligence community?

Oops. "Help, Mr. Wizard!"

[Grassy Knoll]

8. LOL, I Don't Want To Be President Anymore, Mr. Wizard

[meow2u3]

17. Comrade Pissymattress isn't in his right mind

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Does this answer your question?

[bdamomma]

47. read this article you may find it

interesting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mood-swings/201610/trumps-temperament-not-narcissistic-not-normal?collection=1098329

just a snip

Consider: He sleeps 4 hours per night, about half the biological norm. Yet he’s very energetic, creative, talkative. He talks about having not just high physical, but also sexual, energy. The question of his sexual behavior has become central to the campaign in recent weeks. If we take him at his word, and if these reports are true, all these symptoms reflect being sped up, above the usually normal range, in one’s feelings, thinking, and movement. That’s the definition of “manic” symptoms. (This doesn’t mean being delusional and thinking you’re Jesus Christ, just like “depressive” doesn’t mean you want to shoot yourself).

Based on his own claims, Mr. Trump’s self-description can be translated psychologically into mild manic symptoms, which in technical terms, is called “hyperthymia.” This is NOT a psychiatric diagnosis; you won’t find it in the psychiatric diagnostic manual. It is instead a personality state, related biologically to manic-depressive illness. And it isn’t normal.


Just read the whole article you may find very valuable.

[uponit7771]

63. lofl!!

[CentralMass]

71. I think that you are right. He is bat shit crazy.

[Tess49]

27. That's what I ask people. How stupid do you have to be to piss off the CIA (for God's) sake, and

the press?

[sagetea]

105. Maybe he knows..

and he purposely pissed off the C.I.A. and the press for help? I think he's scared shitless, He's so far in the only way for him to see the light of day is for the intelligence and the press to rescue him. It's so surrealistic that my brain has to find a reason...I think it's the only way his huge ego can accept asking for help is to piss them off to find and do away with whatever he is frightened of.

I don't know...it's strange though.

Ho'
sage

[Tess49]

117. It is strange. I don't get it either.

[Amaryllis]

69. THe salient point here is "anyone in their right mind".

[marylandblue]

6. President Pence would still be preferable

At least he won't blow up the world.

[frogmarch]

11. Making Pence POTUS

may have been their plan all along. Maybe they figure we'd be so relieved to see Trump go, that Pence would seem like a big improvement and we'd accept and obey him, and they'd be able to maintain control of us.

[manicraven]

81. I think you're on the right track. Not sure when they formulated the plan, but it makes sense.

The GOP likes Pence, and I remember how after the "grab them by the pussy" video came out, Pence canceled his events, looked pale, hid from the press, and it was rumored he wanted to resign from the campaign, but then abruptly reversed course. I think they had hatched their plan and let him know that if he stuck with the campaign, smiled, bit his tongue, that he'd eventually become POTUS. It was just a matter of time.

Now, Robert Reich came out with an article stating that the GOP reps are playing a waiting game, will get some things they want, and then "pull the trigger," so to speak, and get rid of the fool and make Pence President.

I dislike Pence's policies, but I don't feel the same threat to the planet that I feel with tRump. The GOP will probably still overreach and the pendulum will swing back towards the Dems. Well, that's my thinking anyway, and I'm no expert.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/theyll-pull-the-trigger-robert-reich-explains-how-the-gop-is-playing-trump-till-they-can-dump-him/

(Edited for typo.)

[frogmarch]

101. I want them all to go down, and

I hope the pendulum does swing back toward the Dems and we see soon see the last of these republican bloodsuckers.

Pence probably wouldn't tweet us into a war, but he's vile too, and since he's wishy-washy on Climate Change, I think he'd also be a threat to the planet.

Thanks for the link, manicraven. I put it on Facebook.

[rlegro]

122. Take that one step farther

What if the intelligence agencies (FBI in particular) flagged the GOP hierarchy early on that Trump was under some kind of Russian influence? They could have taken down the guy by exposing this info but then lose the election. So they stuck with him but used their influence to maneuver Pence into place -- and Pence got to run a lot of the transition chores including picking of the cabinet, which looks and feels a lot like a bunch of other Pences. Then, worst case, the right-wing mainstream GOP is in charge but have to put up with Trump ravings. Best case: Trump goes down, Pence becomes POTUS. Then again, any evidence the GOP knew about this possible Russian penetration months before anyone else in the public sphere and the whole thing would fall apart. Do we trust the FBI to dig up that kind of evidence and present it if agents do find it?

[oasis]

13. Trump will probably last through the 2018 midterm elections.

Congress will flip thereafter. Pence and what remains of the GOP, will be obliterated in 2020.

[cstanleytech]

18. I hope you are right, lets just hope they dont take us with them. nt

[meow2u3]

19. From your mouth to God's ears

[Hamlette]

46. not if we don't get the vote out....local AND national

we've got to get house legislatures and governors if we want to stop gerrymandering

or do it in our favor (which I never advocated before now)

[oasis]

48. By 2018 the American voter will be sick and tired of the GOP. nt

[McKim]

74. There is a Fund for This

Eric Holder is heading an organization to fund democratic/progressive state legislature candidates. I am contributing. This is very very important.

[tomp]

97. eric holder is not progressive

any organization he heads will not get a penny of my money.

[rlegro]

123. Now, now

House rules here are that we don't criticize Dems.

[bdamomma]

49. Hopefully it will be sooner.

The CIA isn't going to stand for this.

[oasis]

55. The slow turning wheels of justice turn even slower whenever

the powers that be are targeted.

[onetexan]

145. they wont flip by themselves. We need to remember Nov 6, 2018

& get out the vote so we can at least take back the senate. It will be a tough fight given the fake news climate.

[oasis]

146. Republicans in power tend to overplay their hand. By 2018

they'll be swamped by public relations catastrophes. Count on it. The American public will be sick of their incompetence.

Of course Democrats have to work harder than ever to put aside their differences and focus on party unity.

[elmac]

26. Pence is much more dangerous then tRump

he would destroy every safety net program plus do TPP. I'm not buying the nuke scare stuff.

[LovingA2andMI]

40. Trump is just dangerous period....

So if Pence does not get co-impeached and removed then its Pence it is. Either way, Trump has GOT TO GO ASAP.

[tblue37]

87. After Pence comes Ryan--even worse than Pence. nt

[LovingA2andMI]

89. And That's The Way.....

The U.S. Constitution has set it up. Nothing will change this barring a 2/3rd Referendum from the States to Change the Constitution. Either way, that does not mean the aspect of facing Pence or Ryan should NOT stop any efforts to Impeach and Remove Trump.

In fact, it STRENGTHENS doing so -- as history PROVES when Nixon was Impeached and Resigned, it sure did not help Gerald Ford serve beyond the last two years of Nixon's term. And POTUS Carter (the next President who was a DEMOCRAT) was given a Supermajority in the Congress.

Thus, by any means, necessary Trump must be IMPEACHED and REMOVED (as his ego will not allow him to resign) before he ruins this nation, our Democracy and starts World War III.

There is little to no other choice -- in IMHO the GOP knows just this (which is why Pence was chosen).

[llmart]

93. I'm with you on that...

Impeachment is a reflection on the current GOP also, not just tRump.

However, I don't see the current House impeaching him.

[stevenleser]

54. They are each dangerous in different ways. I dont understand what is not to buy about the nuke scare

stuff. He is a complete wildcard on international relations. He is already confusing and annoying the leadership of other countries. He angers easily and his ego bruises easily and when that happens he reacts angrily and seemingly without self control.

All of those things add up to having very poor and volatile relations with other countries and overreacting to their slights and an increased threat of war with anyone with whom we may have a dispute during his tenure.

Pence is a domestic threat more than anything. He would probably go along with Ryan's plan to cut medicare and social security in a heartbeat.

[maddiemom]

121. But IF Trump is brought down due to interference by the Russians--

rather than his own conflicts of interest---wouldn't Pence be included in the same tainted election results?

[Lucinda]

9. It should have come out before the electoral vote

Inexcusable that it didnt
But now, is better than never!

[Takket]

10. i'll believe it when i see it

the wolf is running the henhouse now. hard to believe Putin's minions will let all their hard work go to waste.

[bdamomma]

53. well they are celebrating in Moscow

right now, but I can see all this collapsing there is a lot of information out there. Other news agencies not from the US are coming to the forefront like BBC/UK outlets, they may crack this whole thing. I am really hoping that this may happen.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

68. Putin is playing both ends: He made tRump Great Again and then he will destroy him by releasing tape

[oasis]

12. Trump that chump.

[triron]

14. knr

any video for this?

[Salviati]

15. The democrats should start tying as many republicans to the SS trump as they can.

send the rats down with the ship.

[meow2u3]

20. Time to churn out the issue ads

Sooner rather than later, and as many as possible.

[cstanleytech]

21. Agreed, the Republicans fed and nurtured the beast so they deserve to go down with it to.

[Salviati]

78. And I understand that when trump is impeached...

... it will be with the help of the republicans, but there's no need to make their jobs easy. We shouldn't be doing their work for them. If they want to repudiate trump and their bigoted base, then Democrats need to force them to actually do it, and not just give them the benefit of the doubt. Until they prove otherwise, every republican (politician) is a trump republican.

[cstanleytech]

80. If Trump had actually shown that he could change once he was sworn in I might argue that he should

be given a chance however he is still behaving like a sulking child who got caught breaking someone's house window but blames someone else and then calls the person that saw him do it a liar.

[orleans]

22. so many good replies here!

on edit

i'd like to add one of my own replies....

odds are 4 to 1 he'll be impeached within 6 months

(more betting going on listed at link)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/trump-impeachment-odds-betting-site

[KittyWampus]

34. Ball gets rolling by June as Republicans will be desperate to get it over by Sept

so they can try and keep seats in November.

[catbyte]

23. But then we will have True Believer, Christofascist Pence. He terrifies me even more

than Drumpfelthinskin. I hope we all survive until the midterms. I turn 62 in June, and I've decided to forego the additional $400-$500/mo I'd get in SS at age 66 because I'm scared it won't be there at all, or they'll pull a bait & switch and up the age to 80. I might as well try to cash in while I can. I've been paying into SS since I was 14 goddamn years old, I might as well try to get a few bucks out of it before they privatize it or worse. I'm not even counting on Medicare.

[sarcasmo]

31. It's the smart play, I believe the right will settle for an age increase on Social Security.

[elmac]

32. Pence would make all of our worse nightmares come true

with him at the helm of the fascists you would see complete destruction of SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment benefits, health care + he would back NAFTA and TPP. Deregulation would go into hyper mode.

[Eyeball_Kid]

113. Pence has a history of backing down when he gets hit with severe criticism.

That's what happened in Indiana.

He's ill-suited to be prez because he doesn't know how to represent the broad spectrum of citizens' values.

If Pence knew about Russian collusion with Trumpy, he'll have to be indicted as well.

[7962]

33. I've always thought i was going to start at 62

It just seems to me that waiting those 4 yrs, it would take me till 70+ to just catch up to what i wouldve gotten from 62-66. At least the way i figured it.

[llmart]

95. I took mine at 63...

Do NOT fall for that meme of "you'll get so much more if you wait until you're 70". It's B.S.

I've been collecting for almost 5 years now, and the total of what I've collected? It would take me years to make that up after 66.

The only caveat is if you are still working. There is a limit to how much you can make. You cannot go over that limit without having to give some of it back. I work part time and I went over the limit one year by just a bit, paid back one month's worth, but my monthly SS amount went up a couple years later because I am still paying into SS.

Also, in my small circle of friends/family/neighbors I know several people who never collected a dime because they were waiting until they were 70 but died.

[7962]

102. Thats the way i was looking at it. And your last sentence says a lot too.

We're not guaranteed tomorrow, much less 6 more years.

[former9thward]

131. Its not BS.

You will get a lot more. If you are in poor health then take it at 62. If you need it then you have to take it at whatever year that is. Otherwise wait until 70.

[llmart]

136. Everyone's situation is different.

I would have gotten $100 more a month if I waited until 70. By the time I'm 70 I will have collected over $100K in those 7 years. Conversely, I would receive $1200 more a year if I would have waited until I was 70. Unless I live to be 100, it's not worth it.

If I didn't "need" it, I could just invest it. Nothing says I have to spend it just because I receive it.

Good luck if you think the Republicans are going to leave Social Security alone. They've been itching to dismantle it for years.

[benld74]

24. GOP and Pence can still run table of bills

Thru to eff us up

[Cracklin Charlie]

39. Can they get re-elected in four years after having to repair the damage from President Trump?

They've got a hot mess to clean up.

Could be lots of dirty stuff stuck on the GOP.

[get the red out]

130. That's my guess

They will have so much of a Trump mess they won't have the time to scratch their asses.

[Tess49]

29. I thought she implied the same thing. No wonder he wants to control the press. n/t

[KittyWampus]

35. thanks for the confirmation.

[Tess49]

42. Welcome!

[spanone]

45. manafort? flynn? tillerson?

curious minds.....

[AgadorSparticus]

50. Is that why twitler did an about face today regarding the CIA?

He knows they have the goods on him and he is trying to play nice now? As if they would just ignore that last couple of months? Surreal....

[Dopers_Greed]

51. If/when Trump goes down

All Republicans need to be tarred and feathered with his greasy tanning spray forever. I can see McTurtle and Eddie Munster weaseling their way out of things and giving Republicans yet another Congressional election blowout.

[bdamomma]

57. Oh I would love see

McConnell and Ryan go, they are knee deep in it.

[spanone]

52. K&R...

[bdamomma]

58. K&R

[Thinkingabout]

59. Information will find its way to the surface, little hands can not cover it forever.

[Trust Buster]

61. ROGER STONE ROGER STONE ROGER STONE !!!!!!!!!!

The creep knew that Podesta's emails were hacked BEFORE U.S. intelligence agencies knew. Why does everyone ignore this creep ?

[Wounded Bear]

99. And Ghouliani...

he telegraphed the Comey letter.

[colorado_ufo]

107. "Tricksy, he is!"

[Wounded Bear]

108. Gollumani?

[Trust Buster]

111. We are not talking about who received leaks out of the New York FBI office. We are talking about

who has been working directly with the Russian government. Stone tweeted on August 21 that Podesta "was next in line" to have hacked emails released. That was before either Podesta or our intelligence agencies knew that Podesta was hacked. Stone worked in the basement of the White House during the Nixon Administration. This guy is a trained dirty trickster that Trump carefully kept at arm's length during the campaign.

[DeminPennswoods]

137. Exactly

Stone is a dirty trickster nurtured under Nixon. He'd sure know how to use Manafort and Page's connections to help Trump.

[liberalmuse]

64. If he was installed through Russian interference...

why in the hell should a Republican take his place? Republicans knew what was going on but did not investigate and likely prevented the info from coming forward.

Hillary technically won and would have won the EC had it not been for Russian interference and the Guliani/NYC FBI/Comey bullshit. I guess I'm not being realistic since there's no way in hell Republicans are going to do what is ethically right.

Also, Trump is getting all the blame (and he is indeed heinous and deserves blame), but it is the racist, misogynist, elitist, xeophobic, greed-infested Republican Party that is responsible for this disaster. They dumped this steaming pile of orange turd on us.

[Duppers]

91. The GOP & their minions are responsible for this disaster.

Exactly. "The racist, misogynist, elitist, xeophobic, greed-infested Republican Party."

I see a glimpse of light in the fact that CNN and MSNBC have trashed Trump to the max this evening. Where was that kind of reporting before the election?! A huge dog fight will boost their ratings and they're now ready to throw big logs on that flame. I hope they won't cool down on this but there seems to be too much smoke.

[Wounded Bear]

100. Political parties were not addressed in the Constitution....

nor does it include the possibility of a do-over.

[Amaryllis]

73. do you have a link to what Maxine said?

[FreepFryer]

75. We need to keep up the pressure! LOVE u Rep. Waters. (n/t)

[usedtobedemgurl]

83. The biggest problem I see here...

Is when we find out Trump was working with the Russians, this means he is illegitimate. If his presidency is illegitimate then how is Pence, who ran with Trump, legitimate? They are both poison from the same tree and that party line would not have been elected if not for foreign interference. It would be better, and more acceptable, to have another election or give it to Hillary.

[Duppers]

90. Exactly!

And this is the constitutional question. And will it ever be proven that the election was rigged enough to null and void the whole outcome? Will the rethugians let that happen? Not likely. They may have to ditch Trump but they would definitely hold onto Pence just for the sake of the party's power.

[Dem2]

115. I wish we could

Common sense doesn't work in this case

[truebluegreen]

84. Hmmm.

Don't believe they have that capability; they would have to refer the matter to the Justice Dept. Trump's Justice Dept.

[bucolic_frolic]

94. Well hurry it up then

No sense in waiting for the apocalypse if you can prevent it

[SHRED]

96. Do you think Pence is caught up in this also?

[TrekLuver]

104. I agree...especially after the CIA debacle visit yesterday...this muthafucka is going down.

[skip fox]

109. Yes. And all of Trump's blustering against the Intel community in the past is so that he can

claim that whatever they come up with in the near future (I hope) is the product of revenge against him.

[Vinca]

114. She's not the first member of Congress to say this.

They definitely know something we don't.

[Percy Cholmondeley]

118. Well, God damn it...

If he was helped into the high office by the Russians, so was Mike Pence, and he'll be just as bad for the 99.999% as Trump. They would both have to go in order for a semblance of justice to be achieved. So it won't. The US is still screwed.

[Achilleaze]

119. Not just Pence, but also the illegitimate Republican "majorities" in the House & Senate

They are all illegitimate, all the corrupt spawn of Evil Empire machinations by Russia and the KGOP.

[rlegro]

120. Russian intelligence very good at psychological profiling

The comments about Trump's personality issues and behaviors means a lot in context. Russian agents LOOK for signs of this in their marks and exploit it to the max.

[SunSeeker]

127. It's a shame Putin doesn't put as much effort at helping his people as he does attacking his enemies

Same could be said for Trump.

[McCamy Taylor]

126. I already knew this because George Will has jumped the sinkinig Trump Titanic

and George Will is the official mouthpiece of the GOP.

World, get ready for President Pence. It will not be pretty but at least he is sane.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

129. And Melania has been an informant!

That's why she's been acting cold around him.

Okay, I made that up!! I'll just call it an alternate fact!

It would be an interesting twist, though.

[calimary]

140. I went to hear Ted Lieu speak, during a local Democratic club meeting.

He indicated that, having read the reports and being briefed as Congress was, there's no doubt in his mind that Russia did it.

I can't recall EVER observing a presidential candidate who had that many ties to Russia. Not EVER. From the get-go, The Donald had Paul Manafort with him. Campaign manager, I believe. And there were other ties back then, like Carter Page who had ties to Russia. There was the beauty pageant held in Russia where I wouldn't be a bit surprised that there weren't connections and "friendships" or business acquaintanceships made. There's Roger Stone, a longtime Friend-of-Moscow. There's the statement I think Don Junior made just a couple of year ago about all the money that was streaming into the Trump Organization from Russia. The banks over there that lent him money. That doesn't happen in a vacuum. That kind of wheeler-dealer stuff, at that high a level of financing, is not done in a vacuum. It has all kinds of tentacles to all sorts of sordid cracks and corners.

No wonder he won't release his tax returns. No wonder he's more adamant and definite about that now than ever before.

Something just smells.

[frankieallen]

143. She's all talk, if you don't agree, give examples