Dear Mr. Putin: Let's Play Chess

[femmedem]

From The Guardian's Louise Mensch, a theory on Russia's moles, from Snowden to Carter Page:

"...Russian moles placed inside the NSA recruited Edward Snowden. A letter between the FSB in Cuba and SENAIN in Quito held in a file marked ‘Assange’ in London, dated 4th April 2013, the day before Snowden sent his only email on legalities, April 5th 2013, and before Snowden took his uppermost level documents during the rest of the month of April, proves conclusively that Mr. Snowden is a Russian agent who acted on instructions from Moscow. After Snowden fled to Hong Kong, he escaped from there by an Ecuadorean travel document arranged by Julian Assange, and tried to get to Cuba.

Snowden is a low-level IT idiot. He had help taking what he took from the NSA. I recommend the NSA review their case files and pick up the Russian moles within their agency. Snowden used stolen credentials, but it is almost certain that he received a piece of removable media like a memory card from his Russian handlers. He took military secrets. And by “he” I mean the FSB.

In 2013, after the Russians received all of the Snowden files, and China some of them, most press coverage concentrated on the traps that terrorists and Russian spies were able to avoid. They missed that Russian hackers would now proceed to use the NSA’s tech offensively.

In 2013, the Russians briefed their army of hackers...."

Much more: https://patribotics.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/dear-mr-putin-lets-play-chess-louise-mensch-trump-russia/

[sakabatou]

1. If Trump tried to play chess

he'd shit all over the board, proclaim victory and leave.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Except...

Putin is playing:



And Trump is playing:

[shraby]

3. We'll see how it all plays out.

It sounds creditable to me.

[world wide wally]

4. Just wow

[yodermon]

5. So s/he thinks Comey is Darth Vader to Trump's emperor.

I have been wondering this as well, but had no real proof. Time will tell.

[ForeverABoomer]

6. It's not PARTY anymore, it's Ideology

Ideology needs fought with a different tactic.

I think the rift brought on by Trump is one, not of party, but of ideology. It's no longer the Liberals (for the people) vs. conservatives (for big money). Even moderate conservatives will tell you that Trump is not a representative of conservative values. He's a maverick who chose to run on the GOP ticket. And, he specifically wants to widen the rift, and cause all of us to fall. Education does play into that ideology gap, because those who are educated are more tolerant of differences in culture, as in "live and let live". Through education, the more you are exposed to, the more you understand others and their lives. Educated people are often also more traveled.

When my hometown lost its "lifestyle" (due to the oil crash in the 80's), all of us natives scattered, to find better jobs -- and the educated children from my town were not bringing that back home by 1990. They went away to college, and then didn't bring back their knowledge to the small town. Why would they? There were no good jobs there anymore. (Remember who was in office in the 1980's?)

I left for Colorado, land of opportunity. But when I came back to my hometown in Kansas in the late 90's, OMG ... it was a whole different place. The culture I had grown up with: one of always do better, always learn more, always give back -- had been over-run by lower educated, nearly backwards-thinking cretins. Where there had been the successful and bright were now displaced by the "country-fide", prejudiced hicks! They say, "you can never go home".... that was so true!

If we all, as Americans, do not come together to fight this disease that is trying to split us (to fail), the toxic ooze they emit is going to seep into the cracks between us, and they'll glory in the fact that they could do it! Trump is already using Putin's playbook. We have to (first) recognize and acknowledge this for what it is -- and then as the wiser, we have the tools to oust it from our country.

No matter the GOP blusters around, and says Democrats didn't connect with people. Poo-Paw, we can't just hash it over, and wring our hands. Trumpism is trying to sway all our thinking. Democrats and Conservatives together are going to need to tackle this Trumpism with a new set of rules. Past banter back-and-forth won't be what wins. Trump seized on the internal unrest brought on by Obama-haters (black President, bigot group) and saw a way to widen it. Currently, there is (maybe) 1/3 of the country in this hater mode. Bi-partisan efforts need to develop plans to stop it before the percentage grows. There is no time to sit around and discuss this issue.

TWITTER -- @ForeverABoomer

[femmedem]

7. Welcome to DU and thank you for a thought-provoking post.

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I live in a progressive East Coast city, so your take on what is happening in the middle of the country is particularly interesting to me. I'm still struggling to understand Trump voters, as I know so few of them.

I'm also reading Sarah Kendzio's The View From Flyover Country. I recommend her to anyone trying to understand how we got here. She's also got an interesting Twitter account with lots of info on Trump's ties to Russia.

[GliderGuider]

8. Louise Mensch broke the FISA warrant story right before the election

If this analysis is anywhere close to accurate, it's a bombshell - but we in the public have no way of judging the accuracy of these reports any more. I'm personally inclined to give this one a lot of credence. The two big questions that remain in my mind concern the Comey briefing: what got the Dem Congresscritters so upset during Comey's classified briefing, and why have there been no leaks about what was discussed?

Snowden wearing a black hat and Comey wearing white? Quite the story!!!

A couple more paras from the article:

By 2008, possibly even earlier, according to John Schindler, a National Security expert formerly at the NSA, Russia had placed moles in the highest levels of US counter-intelligence. I take this as my starting-point, because all the subsequent facts bear it out.

Mr. Putin, it is my surmise that some of the Russian moles inside US counter-intelligence work within the FBI’s criminal division, and particularly, within the New York field office.

(...)

It is my surmise that your hacker, Nikulin, sent a command buried in a virus earlier transmitted by Formspring to ‘wake up’ that old computer and either find, or place, emails from Huma Abedin on to it, and that you then contacted your moles inside the NYPD/ FBI NY and told them to “suddenly find” emails that, the expectation was, could not possibly be combed through in time before the election.