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titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:42 AM Jan 2017

So do the Saturday marches translate to 2018 votes for Dems?

Obviously it takes some massive emotion, will, and dedication to attend rallies and demonstrations like on Saturday. I didn't see this passion and excitement about our well-being before the election from the left at all. My hope is that so many of these people, myself included, will take the time to gently educate people and to help GOTV in 2018 to help stop the bleeding from the Dem party. We really need to pick up House seats, Senate seats, and a few Gov offices. Also local elections as well.

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So do the Saturday marches translate to 2018 votes for Dems? (Original Post) titaniumsalute Jan 2017 OP
Agreed. Unless it translates into more of us. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #1
It's hard to say because I've seen discussions justiceischeap Jan 2017 #2
Indeed. Thank you for your feedback! titaniumsalute Jan 2017 #5
I guess that depends FBaggins Jan 2017 #3
Comey, Voter suppression, Russia... !!!! No, they don't... it does represent energy against MiniPoot uponit7771 Jan 2017 #4
That's the key point... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #6
voting is easy Mosby Jan 2017 #9
Except when your ability to vote is reduced little by little. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #28
This general election 90 million eligible voters didn't vote Mosby Jan 2017 #36
Voting is NOT a grind leftynyc Jan 2017 #16
Not what I said... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #17
I see your point and agree titaniumsalute Jan 2017 #22
We need to do these marches once a quarter... at least moda253 Jan 2017 #7
We need to also go to representatives offices in groups and attend town hall mtgs ebbie15644 Jan 2017 #8
That's where the organizing comes in... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #13
It all depends on what happens in the next two years MichMary Jan 2017 #10
I agree Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #11
Well the anti-Bush protests leading up to Iraq clearly eventually brought Dem voters Johonny Jan 2017 #12
...and then we lost the 2004 election. brooklynite Jan 2017 #33
First... Tree-Hugger Jan 2017 #14
Outstanding! Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #18
Gerrymandering Tree-Hugger Jan 2017 #20
I hear you... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #21
What is PA voting on in May? crazycatlady Jan 2017 #25
Municipal Primaries Tree-Hugger Jan 2017 #27
ALL the people who marched no doubt voted leftynyc Jan 2017 #15
Judging from NYC's march crazycatlady Jan 2017 #26
That's great but not enough. You have to vote the RIGHT way AND help with campaigns. RBInMaine Jan 2017 #30
Hopefully, the marches will help raise up a new generation of young leaders for the party. LongTomH Jan 2017 #19
My guess SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2017 #23
Not if progressives are delighted to work with Trump. joshcryer Jan 2017 #24
I think that the women's march speaks volumes. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #29
Answer: no brooklynite Jan 2017 #31
The women I marched with were very into organizing for 2018. They felt powerful redstatebluegirl Jan 2017 #32
You can pretty much bet that the women there are habitual voters. Brian Williams, in his .... Hekate Jan 2017 #34
maybe not, but two years of Donald Fucking Trump might Skittles Jan 2017 #35
It's entirely up to Dems. Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2017 #37

DinahMoeHum

(21,809 posts)
1. Agreed. Unless it translates into more of us. . .
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jan 2017

. . .getting involved in politics on the local/state level, these demonstrations will mean shit.

It's as simple as, and it starts with, joining up with your local Democratic committee and going to their meetings, learning where the political levers are pulled, etc.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
2. It's hard to say because I've seen discussions
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jan 2017

about the impact the rally had, how it can be sustained, will white women stand with women of color when called upon, etc. I've also read that certainly some of the women who attended the rally were trump voters and what to do with them.

I think our best bet is to find local orgs energized by Saturday and join them. And keep in mind this isn't a sprint but a marathon. First 2 years then 4 years. Democratic folk are notorious for getting complacent.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
3. I guess that depends
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jan 2017

How many attendees do you think failed to vote in November (or voted for Trump or another candidate)?

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
6. That's the key point...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jan 2017

politics can be a grind. It's why Dems lose mid-terms. They haven't been active between the Presidentials.

I hear a lot of good talk about organizing locally. It has to happen, especially in Red states/districts.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. Except when your ability to vote is reduced little by little.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jan 2017

Except when your ability to vote is reduced little by little. Reduced statute by statute. Reduced closed polling station by closed polling station.

Easy-peesey to vote... except when the government of North Carolina deliberately sets out to prevent demographics from voting, or when Texas reduces the number of people who are allowed to vote. Or when the AZ GOP reduced the amount of polling stations by over 70%.

It's too bad more alleged liberals don't know this...

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. Voting is NOT a grind
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:13 PM
Jan 2017

Stop making excuses for those too lazy to do it during the midterms. I don't need anyone to light a fire under my ass to know it's important to always vote.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
17. Not what I said...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:22 PM
Jan 2017

voting is easy, especially where I live (full mail in). Yes, by all means vote. It's our civic duty.

[font size=2]Politics is a grind.[/font] The every day get out there and be active, writing lettes, making phone calls, going to town halls and meetings...that's the grind. It's what the RW did to us the last few cycles, and it's what Dems need to do to get back in the game. Real politics is not just GOTV. If it was, we might have won last Nov.

Yes, voting is easy. Politics is work.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
22. I see your point and agree
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:48 PM
Jan 2017

You work your butt off like the last election and then BOOM! Starting from scratch now.

 

moda253

(615 posts)
7. We need to do these marches once a quarter... at least
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jan 2017

Our Gov needs to know when the people are fed up and quarterly we need to be at their doorstep letting them know how we feel about what they are doing.

I wasn't able to attend this march because my wife didn't want me to bring our small children there as she wasn't sure what might happen. I thought it would be fine but I stayed with the kids and she kept me updated on what was going down. I hope that within the crowds there were people helping to let others know how to get involved politically.

I'd like to see these marches continue.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
13. That's where the organizing comes in...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jan 2017

MM gets mixed reviews ( ), but he has at least one good idea. Find 5-10 friends in your district/area and do shit like that on a regular basis. Even a Repub Rep would notice a group of people showing up all the time needling them.

If you force yourself to do that a few times, it gets into a routine and becomes easier. Could be a coffee hour, or a book reading, whatever. Meet weekly, or at least bi-weekly. Organize letter writing campaigns to local papers. Lots of ideas bubbling up. Listen, and use the ones that best suits your situation.

If the DNC would support local offices in all districts it would help, but somehow I doubt they will be much help in the next year or so, if ever.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
10. It all depends on what happens in the next two years
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jan 2017

If people are happy with their R Sens/Reps/Govs then they will be re-elected.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
11. I agree
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jan 2017

The connection has to be made between protesting/marching and being involved in politics (i.e. calling representatives and senators and legislators) and, most importantly, voting in elections.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)
12. Well the anti-Bush protests leading up to Iraq clearly eventually brought Dem voters
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jan 2017

Even Trump had to pretend to be part of the anti-Bush war movement to get elected.

So I'd say yes, the anti-Trump movement is real, it is just started, and eventually every national politician will publicly need to denounce Trump. Is that 2018 when this all happens or 2024? I don't know, but word is even the GOP are preparing for the day already. They're planning to saddle Trump with their legacy and point out he was never their guy...

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
14. First...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jan 2017

2017. It is crucial to elect Dems from the ground up. In PA, we have an election in May.

I can't speak for the whole country, but I am involved in groups within PA (mainly Philly and suburban based) that popped up after the election. The people in these groups have been VERY active and multiple calls to action are posted and completed each day. There are many who weren't as politically active before the election who are now writing, calling, and visiting their elected officials. We have Tuesdays with Toomey in this state, started after the election. Each Tuesday, people visit his various offices statewide with messages, etc. for him. On Thursday, the GOP and possibly trump will be visiting Philadelphia. There are over a thousand committed to protesting that.

I do have hope for this movement. I was involved with The Coffee Party and with Occupy. I knew they would Peter out. This feels different.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
18. Outstanding!
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:24 PM
Jan 2017

This is the kind of work we need done in all 50 states (but especially the red ones).

Gawd, did we really lose PA?

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
21. I hear you...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:14 PM
Jan 2017


My state has a rather fair system of re-districting that counters that to a large degree. That's how we've been able to stay blue (although we have too many red districts in the rural areas).
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. ALL the people who marched no doubt voted
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jan 2017

It's the ones who sat on their asses in November and those who do so during midterms that need to do their part.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
26. Judging from NYC's march
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jan 2017

(which by your screen name, I would assume you're near), I can tell you that a lot of people there didn't vote due to ineligibility (age). But it gives me hope for the future.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
29. I think that the women's march speaks volumes.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jan 2017

What I do not understand is .. where were all of these people during the election?

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
31. Answer: no
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jan 2017

Two years is two years from now; assuming that the energy of the marches will still be there is naive. HOWEVER, that energy can be harvested to encourage political action which will generate votes.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
34. You can pretty much bet that the women there are habitual voters. Brian Williams, in his ....
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jan 2017

...otherwise okay report on the March stuck his foot in it by plaintively bleating, "But where were they on Election Day?"

WE VOTED. HILLARY GOT OUR VOTES. SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.

Now, as to the "enthusiasm" for Hillary, see above. The reference to "the left" is really aggravating, because I've been amazed over the past decade at how "the left" is permanently pissed off at all Democratic candidates and officeholders. No one is ever good enough for them.

We lost the Electoral Vote. I live in a state that has more people than the nation of Canada, and my vote counted for a fraction of those cast in Small Town, USA.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
37. It's entirely up to Dems.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:27 PM
Jan 2017

It is within their power to make everyone who marched Saturday into Democratic voters. Will they? If they're smart...

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