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uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:49 AM Feb 2017

QUESTION: What is the rationale of any democrat voting for anything Benedict Donald wants?

Not understanding why patriots would help with any other agenda outside of grinding ANYTHING Benedict Donald wants to a halt to the best of their ability?

ANYTHING !!

Looks LOGICALLY to me more pros than cons in shutting shit down or at most slowing every thing down.

Even if conservatives have the ability to push everything through themselves and going nuclear dems will HAVE TO use this ability to get things back to normal after Russian hacking of our elections is defeated and they're back in power.

Remember, conservatives spent 25 billion shutting down the government and all they got was a stupid increase of congressional seats!!

Your take?

tia

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QUESTION: What is the rationale of any democrat voting for anything Benedict Donald wants? (Original Post) uponit7771 Feb 2017 OP
I want to oppose them worse then they did to Obama. Trump is illegitimate. bravenak Feb 2017 #1
Agree thinkingagain Feb 2017 #9
Yes. Thats what i want bravenak Feb 2017 #22
There is no logic. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #2
Schumer is wired to do political deal making. But that gets us nowhere with the Republicans KittyWampus Feb 2017 #3
Money!!! vlyons Feb 2017 #4
Then there's our power, ... grass roots dems have MORE money to get the vichy out of office uponit7771 Feb 2017 #6
Some choices are worse than others Madam45for2923 Feb 2017 #5
That they're going to shoot us anyway doesn't seem like a reason to help. They have a gun & they're uponit7771 Feb 2017 #8
They need to act in America's best interest... Blanks Feb 2017 #7
Exactly, they can be smart with it and at least uponit7771 Feb 2017 #10
I think I read Warren said she voted for Carson Cha Feb 2017 #11
Which makes no logical sense either, worse than what !?!?! Someone who's going to do what Benedict uponit7771 Feb 2017 #14
Must Resist 100%. Anything less is corroboration. NightWatcher Feb 2017 #12
Bowing to the emperor and voting with the Republicans will demoralize the base and decrease turnout. dalton99a Feb 2017 #13
Yes, I think David Corn is right... the DNC better get ahead of the base and the base wants all out uponit7771 Feb 2017 #16
The GOP is 100% down with Trump world wide wally Feb 2017 #15
Yeap, tie Benedict Donald around the neck of every one of those bastards !! uponit7771 Feb 2017 #19
I agree... The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #17
+1, you have a point... don't make ANYTHING bipartisan... NOTHING... so the KGOP owns it all uponit7771 Feb 2017 #18
If America wants a one part system, let them have it. world wide wally Feb 2017 #24
We don't have enough dry powder yet, old guy Feb 2017 #20
+1, they'll put some harsh language in it like gosh and darn and a few danggits uponit7771 Feb 2017 #21
Do you think they will go that far? old guy Feb 2017 #23
Gillibrand voting for Nicki Haley makes sense to me. Hopefully Gillibrand will run in 2020 La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #25
I do agree they should HAVE A CASE for the moderate ones but not folk like Sessions uponit7771 Feb 2017 #26
no, anyone voting for sessions needs to be primaried. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #27
Thx... looks like Franken is putting it down as we type... its a good thing to see uponit7771 Feb 2017 #29
honestly, haley was the BEST he was going to appoint to that role La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #28
looks like it uponit7771 Feb 2017 #30

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
9. Agree
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:59 AM
Feb 2017

I want to oppose them worse then they did to Obama
I also want when the Republicans complain about it
The Democrats just say (with proof) we are just taking a page from your play book from the last 8 years.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. Schumer is wired to do political deal making. But that gets us nowhere with the Republicans
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:53 AM
Feb 2017

don't care about the Rule of Law.

Republicans have ripped up our Constitution and only have a majority because they illegally suppressed legitimate voters and used extreme gerrymandering. And dirty tricks.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
8. That they're going to shoot us anyway doesn't seem like a reason to help. They have a gun & they're
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:59 AM
Feb 2017

... going to use it then do what they want to do in the first place.

Might as well go down fighting and try to take a couple of Benedict Donald's Band Of Bigots with us

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
7. They need to act in America's best interest...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:58 AM
Feb 2017

I think the firing of the AG on top of the inappropriate immigration EO, plus the media attention on Steve Bannon has shored up support for the opposition.

They should interview the SC nominee, but not allow a vote, until Obama's pick has been put in place, Trump can pick this guy next time, he'll have been vetted.

The more attention they bring to these cabinet appointments the better, but there is a tipping point where they have to avoid looking like they're hurting Americans by obstruction.

If a cabinet member is acceptable, they should approve him/her. The problem is that he has so many appointments that are not.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
10. Exactly, they can be smart with it and at least
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:01 AM
Feb 2017

OH SHIT !!!

They've ALREADY DONE IT !!!!

They've suspended rules to confirm PRICE !!

A dude he out and out lied about stock buys !!!

WTF!?!?

Cha

(297,220 posts)
11. I think I read Warren said she voted for Carson
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:02 AM
Feb 2017

because there could be someone worse.

Elizabeth Warren Tries to Explain Why She Voted to Confirm Ben Carson

snip//

“Yes, I have serious, deep, profound concerns about Dr. Carson’s inexperience to lead the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Yes, I adamantly disagree with many of the outrageous things that Dr. Carson said during his presidential campaign. Yes, he is not the nominee I wanted,” Warren said. “But ‘the nominee I wanted’ is not the test.”

Warren said she sent Carson a nine-page letter with questions touching on a variety of topics, from Section 8 housing, to natural disaster preparedness, to LGBTQ discrimination. She said his answers “weren’t perfect,” but that he made “good, detailed promises” on anti-homelessness programs and fair housing law enforcement that encouraged her.

“Can we count on Dr. Carson to keep those promises? I don’t know,” Warren said. “People are right to be skeptical; I am. But a man who makes written promises gives us a toehold on accountability. If President Trump goes to his second choice, I don’t think we will get another HUD nominee who will even make these promises—much less follow through on them.”

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2017/01/26/elizabeth-warren-ben-carson/

I like Senator Gillibrand's attitude..

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
14. Which makes no logical sense either, worse than what !?!?! Someone who's going to do what Benedict
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:13 AM
Feb 2017

... Donald wants !?!!

OMG.. OMG

They have that punk ass Carson sitting next to Benedict Donald now... FUCK HIM !!!

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. Must Resist 100%. Anything less is corroboration.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:06 AM
Feb 2017

We must acknowledge and accept that we are an occupied nation and we must resist.

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
13. Bowing to the emperor and voting with the Republicans will demoralize the base and decrease turnout.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:09 AM
Feb 2017

There is precedent.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
16. Yes, I think David Corn is right... the DNC better get ahead of the base and the base wants all out
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:14 AM
Feb 2017

... whoa... not war... whoa.

Obstruct everything every second as possible

17. I agree...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:15 AM
Feb 2017

I would be very happy if Democrats let all the Republicans vote on everything controversial that most Americans do not want, while abstaining from the vote so that the Republican Party fully and completely OWNS IT.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
18. +1, you have a point... don't make ANYTHING bipartisan... NOTHING... so the KGOP owns it all
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:27 AM
Feb 2017

... and we all know there's going to be some extreme fuck up going on.

Dems don't want their hands in any of it.

Even the SEAL team raid which was 100% MiniPootin call was a total fuck up... the Russians choose their partner well

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
24. If America wants a one part system, let them have it.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:07 PM
Feb 2017

Maybe then they will catch on... But don't bet the farm on it.
I expect most Republican voters will be waving little American flags as Putin's team moves into Washington to advise Trump.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
20. We don't have enough dry powder yet,
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:39 AM
Feb 2017

but you can bet that as soon as we do the strongly worded messages will be sent.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
23. Do you think they will go that far?
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:50 AM
Feb 2017

I mean using gosh and darn is really harsh. repubs might feel sad.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
25. Gillibrand voting for Nicki Haley makes sense to me. Hopefully Gillibrand will run in 2020
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:09 PM
Feb 2017

and will make a case to moderate GOP women that she represents them as well, and that is why the ONLY trump nominee she voted for is a moderate GOP woman.

I would have cast that vote in her shoes.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
26. I do agree they should HAVE A CASE for the moderate ones but not folk like Sessions
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:10 PM
Feb 2017

... and price and Manure or the rest of those bastards.

If they can make a factual case we can understand

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