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#BREAKING armed National Guard is raiding Oceti Oyate camp. They are arresting the elders as we (Original Post) bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 OP
anyone surprised?? MFM008 Feb 2017 #1
Nope. He's looking for a show of strength that will give him his Ronald Reagan moment. Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #3
That would make him a god to them, are you kidding. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #30
that would be closer to Nixon's barbtries Feb 2017 #59
So Trump an illegal immigrant starts a war with native doc03 Feb 2017 #2
Don't forget his grandfather was a owner of prostitutes Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #7
first he came for the Muslims, then they came after the First Nations. DK504 Feb 2017 #54
?? Trump is not "an illegal immigrant," unless you are being extremely-subtly sarcastic, re: WH. WinkyDink Feb 2017 #55
If Crazy Horse was alive he would probably consider Trump an illegal immigrant. doc03 Feb 2017 #60
Melania is irrelevant to your post. Crazy horse is dead. All parties involved were born WinkyDink Feb 2017 #62
Well excuse me that you are too up tight to understand sarcasm IGNORE doc03 Feb 2017 #63
He wants his Kent State moment elehhhhna Feb 2017 #4
Why? It didn't end well for Nixon, ultimately. WinkyDink Feb 2017 #56
Trump once again proves he is the Ass Leader of the free world ........... Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #5
Wounded Knee II GusBob Feb 2017 #6
Jesus Christ! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #8
May those folks that ordered this go to hell leanforward Feb 2017 #9
The national guard are NOT blameless angrychair Feb 2017 #64
. myrna minx Feb 2017 #10
I've been watching a live feed Qanisqineq Feb 2017 #11
I spent my childhood there (in the red river valley) and still have family there. Volaris Feb 2017 #18
I had no idea it was the Red River Valley..it reminded me of an OLD song angstlessk Feb 2017 #27
The Red River Valley borders the Minnesota State Line. Volaris Feb 2017 #31
Sorry, I was wondering about the cowboy reference, but thought angstlessk Feb 2017 #33
Actually the Red River belongs to Oklahoma, the border is the south bank bigbrother05 Feb 2017 #51
Gotcha. Volaris Feb 2017 #53
I grew up near Jamestown Qanisqineq Feb 2017 #46
This is madness malaise Feb 2017 #12
Disgusting NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #13
Calamity Jill hasn't a clue of her impact on the 2016 election. oasis Feb 2017 #23
Standing Rock Opposition FB page has a number of live feeds Qanisqineq Feb 2017 #14
Thanks-- I couldn't find any b/c I don't have FB. lol n/t bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #15
Couldnt find anything on that link but here is live video: Amaryllis Feb 2017 #19
Heart-breaking news! ananda Feb 2017 #16
Must be a state action if they haven't been federalized n/t bhowle Feb 2017 #17
Obama had their back and Trump doesn't. Governor knows that. Nt lostnfound Feb 2017 #25
fucking Nazi pigs gopiscrap Feb 2017 #20
Need a GoFundMe page for their legal fees. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #21
Still standing video feed. ananda Feb 2017 #22
ohhhh... TeddyBear 1 Feb 2017 #24
Anyone else want to bet this is where Trump is headed on his "mystery trip"? Initech Feb 2017 #26
He went to Dover to see the dead SEAL Lithos Feb 2017 #42
Disgraceful. I'm embarrassed to be associated with another white man invasion. ffr Feb 2017 #28
Candidate trump, even his 2nd day in office, would steal oil Ilsa Feb 2017 #29
Bury my heart at wounded knee redux workinclasszero Feb 2017 #32
FDT! brer cat Feb 2017 #34
WOW! And I've been hoping the National Guard would protect Americans and not the corporations judesedit Feb 2017 #35
If they were REALLY smart they wouldn't be in the National Guard. pangaia Feb 2017 #50
Your hope was dashed in 1970, was it not? WinkyDink Feb 2017 #57
Remember Wounded Knee Uponthegears Feb 2017 #36
Republican corporate fascism is on the March Achilleaze Feb 2017 #37
thanks for this-- truly scary and sick Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #38
We do have a long and sad history of PatrickforO Feb 2017 #39
The military and police have history of supporting business against people's rights tikka Feb 2017 #40
Soon in will be martial law in chicago McCamy Taylor Feb 2017 #41
And Berkeley. and, and... pangaia Feb 2017 #49
I don't know SteelSmasher Feb 2017 #43
They have been losing cell signals off and on today. nt bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #44
1) The vets have pledged to return; and 2) I hope Rachel Maddow will be on this tonight pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #45
AP: New Standing Rock camp evicted by law enforcement pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #47
K&R bdamomma Feb 2017 #48
Jesus Pete! Bayard Feb 2017 #52
... Lucinda Feb 2017 #58
Facism Botany Feb 2017 #61

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
3. Nope. He's looking for a show of strength that will give him his Ronald Reagan moment.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:24 PM
Feb 2017

He could have all the elders killed and the right-wingers will love him for it.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
30. That would make him a god to them, are you kidding.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:31 PM
Feb 2017

What has happened since inauguration is far worse than people realize.

Most the people I know dont care about these Native Americans anyway, as long as "The Bachelor" comes on when it is supposed to tonight.

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
59. that would be closer to Nixon's
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017

Kent State moment. the backlash will annihilate him. i hope it does not occur. if i was a praying person, oh fuck it, i PRAY it does not occur.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
7. Don't forget his grandfather was a owner of prostitutes
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:29 PM
Feb 2017

the start of the Trump fortune .............. screwing people is in his blood

DK504

(3,847 posts)
54. first he came for the Muslims, then they came after the First Nations.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 12:51 PM
Feb 2017

Some orders have to be ignored, this is one of those moments.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
55. ?? Trump is not "an illegal immigrant," unless you are being extremely-subtly sarcastic, re: WH.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 12:53 PM
Feb 2017

doc03

(35,336 posts)
60. If Crazy Horse was alive he would probably consider Trump an illegal immigrant.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:03 PM
Feb 2017

The Indians didn't invite us over here to steal their land and murder them. I think it could
be argued Trump's wife is an illegal immigrant by his definition.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
62. Melania is irrelevant to your post. Crazy horse is dead. All parties involved were born
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:17 PM
Feb 2017

here.

Being pedantic doesn't a cogent argument make.

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
9. May those folks that ordered this go to hell
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:41 PM
Feb 2017

The guardsman are doing as ordered. The Governor needs to go. Anyone complicit in the Governor's decision needs to go, too.

There is nothing but GREED involved. We need someone to "run the money changers out of the temple".

Greed = Capitalism. This is another example of greed getting in the way of treating people with honor and respect.

I'm a loyal American in opposition. Let's not forget the russian connection. The russians just earned a half billion dollars with the confirmation of the new SoS. How's that for jackpot in helping to win the election for dRumpf and the rethugs.

Finally, "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
64. The national guard are NOT blameless
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:31 PM
Feb 2017

That argument didn't work for concentration camp staff and it doesn't work here.

They are capable of resistance and defying an unlawful order against the use of military force on US citizens.

This should be a wake-up call for everyone!

If they will do it here they will do it everywhere!

Qanisqineq

(4,826 posts)
11. I've been watching a live feed
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:46 PM
Feb 2017

and crying. Crying for what my state (which I just returned to a year ago) has become. Crying at the greed, at the environmental destruction, at the racism. Forget "North Dakota nice." It's all bullshit now. I know, I live here and everyone has turned into a greedy, uber-Christian asshole. We are trying to leave.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
18. I spent my childhood there (in the red river valley) and still have family there.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:10 PM
Feb 2017

I'm sad, too. I haven't been back in a few years, but even then the beginnings of a whole slew of New-industry related problems were starting to surface. The oil money made a lot of them dumber than I seem to remember, and when it collapses (and it will, cause that stuffs not worth taking out of the ground at less than a hundred bucks a barrel) they're going to be left with a lot of very expensive problems that have not been budgeted for, that don't have easy solutions, and that only a small few saw coming.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
31. The Red River Valley borders the Minnesota State Line.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:36 PM
Feb 2017

Most of the oil and gas industry has been set up in other half of the state, west of Devils Lake. I'm pretty sure the river in the song you linked, however, is the Texas Red River, but a lot of people make that error. It's ok, we forgive you lol
=)

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
33. Sorry, I was wondering about the cowboy reference, but thought
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:39 PM
Feb 2017

maybe Dakota has cowboys? Thanks for the education.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
51. Actually the Red River belongs to Oklahoma, the border is the south bank
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 12:24 PM
Feb 2017

The river divides the two states

eta: We all weep with our brothers/sisters

Qanisqineq

(4,826 posts)
46. I grew up near Jamestown
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:16 PM
Feb 2017

Left almost 20 years ago and came back to Bismarck-Mandan. It is soooooo different. But maybe this part of the state always was this way.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
13. Disgusting
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:50 PM
Feb 2017

Good thing those anti-Clinton folks voted for Stein to protect the water because Trump would not be any worse.

Everytime this asshole administration does something I get angry about that all over again.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
26. Anyone else want to bet this is where Trump is headed on his "mystery trip"?
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:24 PM
Feb 2017

Think about it - they got the man they wanted for SOS, so they're going to get their stupid fucking pipeline. And what better place to announce it?

ffr

(22,670 posts)
28. Disgraceful. I'm embarrassed to be associated with another white man invasion.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:27 PM
Feb 2017

Keep taking pictures and recording video to keep up posted.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
29. Candidate trump, even his 2nd day in office, would steal oil
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:27 PM
Feb 2017

from another country. Of course he doesn't give a good goddamn about poluting the natives'water supply or desecrating their burial lands.

I hope the NG is gentle and doesn't hurt anyone.

Fuck Trump.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
35. WOW! And I've been hoping the National Guard would protect Americans and not the corporations
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:46 PM
Feb 2017

How wrong I was. And to think they don't even care about the original Americans and their drinking water and those living 17 miles downstream. There are already 3,000 cities with worse levels of lead in their water than Flint. Are these robots so stupid to forget that their families have to live on this planet too. They should be refusing to follow the order and stand with the brave soldiers who stood against the pipeline on this sacred and vital land and water last month. They are the true heroes along with the peaceful resistance participants. Boo to loser Drumpf and cabinet of misfits. You will have to answer to a higher power for this.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
50. If they were REALLY smart they wouldn't be in the National Guard.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:31 AM
Feb 2017

They would be lawyers fighting against stuff like this.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
39. We do have a long and sad history of
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:55 PM
Feb 2017

brutally oppressing American Indians. I guess they have to be arrested because this protest could adversely affect profits.

tikka

(762 posts)
40. The military and police have history of supporting business against people's rights
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:09 PM
Feb 2017

Just look at the Ludlow massacre

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
41. Soon in will be martial law in chicago
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:09 PM
Feb 2017

This is a test to see what we will tolerate. Or maybe he will call them out to drive protesters away from one of his hotels. I hope all his hotels are being picketed 24-7

SteelSmasher

(35 posts)
43. I don't know
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:32 PM
Feb 2017

How long will we be getting information from them though? I thought there were cell phone jammers deployed before. Information is power, which is why they will take it away.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
45. 1) The vets have pledged to return; and 2) I hope Rachel Maddow will be on this tonight
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:38 PM
Feb 2017

The Veterans Stand group has been raising funds to go back to stand with the water protectors again. And Rachel has followed Standing Rock developments on her show repeatedly as events warranted.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
47. AP: New Standing Rock camp evicted by law enforcement
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:21 PM
Feb 2017
New Standing Rock camp evicted by law enforcement

Arrests as police move on 'Last Child' camp, set up across from larger camp near Standing Rock


The Associated Press Posted: Feb 01, 2017 6:03 PM ET| Last Updated: Feb 01, 2017 6:03 PM ET

Law enforcement have evicted about 40 Dakota Access pipeline opponents from a camp the demonstrators set up on higher ground near their flood-prone main camp in southern North Dakota.

The Morton County Sheriff's Office says the camp, near the Standing Rock Sioux reservation, was on private property owned by the pipeline developer. But in Facebook posts, demonstrators described what they called the "Last Child" camp as a "peaceful assembly."

Sheriff's spokesman Rob Keller says there were two initial arrests and no reports of injuries. Live-streaming video on Facebook shows several officers in riot gear on the scene.

The main camp once housed thousands but is now down to about 300 people. The tribe has told those in camp to leave, and the camp is being cleaned up in advance of spring flooding season.

...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/new-standing-rock-camp-eviction-1.3962503

Bayard

(22,069 posts)
52. Jesus Pete!
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 12:41 PM
Feb 2017

So will there be any press at all when oil leaks into the water supply and starts killing people? The U.S. government pledged to protect Natives in treaties, not kill more of them. The National Guard, "Just following orders", has been the main excuse for genocide thru history.

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