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meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:18 PM Feb 2017

Why, WHY, aren't any republicans stepping up?

You can't tell me every one of them wants war on the scale it would be with Iran or China. You can't tell me they all want to let Putin have any influence or control over our country. They can't all think Trump's insulting posture he is taking with foreign leaders is a good idea relationships throughout the world.

McCain, Graham, Rand Paul, Rubio, Murkowski, Collins, Flake. I hear some scolding actions and words by Trump - well DO SOMETHING!

Did Russia hand over some opposition research on Ryan and McConnell that they did a total 180 right before the election and started kissing Trump's ass? Blackmailing them with some nasty secrets?

Republicans have to step up. Why are they so afraid? What do they know, what have they been told?

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Why, WHY, aren't any republicans stepping up? (Original Post) meadowlark5 Feb 2017 OP
Yeah, I hope someone comes up with some answers. LAS14 Feb 2017 #1
I would assume most are ok with the religious liberty stuff meadowlark5 Feb 2017 #6
Two words Alpeduez21 Feb 2017 #2
six rufus dog Feb 2017 #5
welcome to DU bdamomma Feb 2017 #12
Becuz...to these two... not fooled Feb 2017 #31
Because R's eat their own. lindysalsagal Feb 2017 #3
Because they're republicans. Loge23 Feb 2017 #4
But they could get most of this with Pence without the risk of war meadowlark5 Feb 2017 #7
They're saving impeaching Trump until they've gotten all the mileage they can. forgotmylogin Feb 2017 #17
It's way too soon. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #8
McConnell and Ryan blocked any further investigation into the Russian influence and Trump meadowlark5 Feb 2017 #10
or they are in it for making tons of money bdamomma Feb 2017 #14
Because they want to get all the goodies they can before they stab him at the forum frazzled Feb 2017 #9
They've been trained well to fall in line. Tatiana Feb 2017 #11
I miss Olympia Snow, Lincoln Chaffee... pat_k Feb 2017 #13
because they care about their jobs more than they care about America Skittles Feb 2017 #15
McCain did and he didn't look too happy. bdamomma Feb 2017 #16
Because they are morally bankrupt. milestogo Feb 2017 #18
Even their political positions Nevernose Feb 2017 #20
Fox news, want abortion illegal marlakay Feb 2017 #19
rethugliCONs are misfits, nerds, deplorables and whimps. democratisphere Feb 2017 #21
I've been wondering if the Russians let the GOP leadership know about the dirt csziggy Feb 2017 #22
That's what I think meadowlark5 Feb 2017 #33
They are all tough talking cowards who loves them some authoritarianism Generic Brad Feb 2017 #23
They don't care. Solly Mack Feb 2017 #24
Reeps really know how to keep their people in line.. ananda Feb 2017 #25
The answer is within the question, to wit: THEY ARE REPUBLICANS. Everything becomes clear, that WinkyDink Feb 2017 #26
Some Republicans Are Fake First Amendment Supporters AlexJonesBanned Feb 2017 #27
Nobody here is a fan of Alex Jones Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #34
Because they're scared of their own voters BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #28
Because BigBoss Feb 2017 #29
They want the Scotus pick. ReformedGOPer Feb 2017 #30
Because Trump is, ultimately, advancing their agenda Orrex Feb 2017 #32
I think it's a combination meadowlander Feb 2017 #35
They like a lot of his policies but they may be worried about Bannon and Quixote1818 Feb 2017 #36
18' and 20' briv1016 Feb 2017 #37
Because the people (their constituents) still like Trump and Trumps policies. We can't understand kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2017 #38

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
1. Yeah, I hope someone comes up with some answers.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:20 PM
Feb 2017

Almost worse than Trump is the idea that there are ALMOST NO Republicans of intelligence and integrity in either the house or the senate. How can that be?????

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
6. I would assume most are ok with the religious liberty stuff
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:24 PM
Feb 2017

the deregulations and moral legislation and the efforts to make America a white christian nation - that I can see totally those toads being perfectly fine with. But wars with countries like Iran or allowing Russia to influence anything in our country is wrong and they have to know it. They won't be safe from it all. How can they think they are some how exceptional that they and their families will be untouched by war on that scale?

bdamomma

(63,846 posts)
12. welcome to DU
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:35 PM
Feb 2017

I wish those two would get truth serum. I hate them too.

You know Giuliani he likes to squeal like a pig he probably knows what is going on. We need to a timeline on him and when he said we got some big news or something like that a week before the election. Comey where he hell is he???

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
31. Becuz...to these two...
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:33 PM
Feb 2017

...wrecking Social Security and Medicare is more important than averting World War III.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
4. Because they're republicans.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:24 PM
Feb 2017

We have another thing coming if we expect the republicans to help save the country.
They will ride this horse as far as they can to get whatever they can before they get rid of trump.
They're drunk with power now.Don't expect any positive action from any republican.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
7. But they could get most of this with Pence without the risk of war
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:26 PM
Feb 2017

without the risk of insulting and destroying relationships with our allies. They can have all of this with Pence . Pence is a huge bag of dicks but he at least wouldn't be an idiotic asshole with leaders of other countries.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
17. They're saving impeaching Trump until they've gotten all the mileage they can.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:11 PM
Feb 2017

It's like running up the credit cards beforehand because you know you're going to declare bankruptcy.

Then when all is crap, they themselves can impeach him and say "Look, we're the good guys, we saved the world from this menace."

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
10. McConnell and Ryan blocked any further investigation into the Russian influence and Trump
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:30 PM
Feb 2017

I always thought they would let that go forward and then use that if they needed to remove him when he became too much of a liability. But if they don't investigate it and know, they are taking away any leverage to remove him. So maybe they don't want to or can't because Russia maybe gave dumpy some juicy opposition research to blackmail those two with.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. Because they want to get all the goodies they can before they stab him at the forum
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:28 PM
Feb 2017

They are delirious about the chance to get all the things they've wanted to do for years, but didn't have the power. Now that they do, they're willing to tolerate Trump until they can pass as much horrible legislation as they can:

Repeal of Obamacare!
Tax Cuts!
Deregulation of everything!
Slashing "entitlements"!

When they've got it all, they'll throw him off like a cheap suit to save their necks for the next election.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
11. They've been trained well to fall in line.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:30 PM
Feb 2017

They are willing to put this country at risk to further their political and economic goals.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
13. I miss Olympia Snow, Lincoln Chaffee...
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:38 PM
Feb 2017

Hank Brown, even Warren Rudman.

Once upon a time, some members of the Republican caucus had integrity.

Given the state of the Republican Party today, anyone with an ounce of integrity has shed the Republican mantle.

I could be wrong, but I just don't see any of these folks actually revolting. If there are any who haven't completely sold their souls, I wouldn't be surprised to see them "bow out" at the end of their terms rather than stand up.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
15. because they care about their jobs more than they care about America
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:43 PM
Feb 2017

they are afraid of upsetting the "deplorable" snowflakes

bdamomma

(63,846 posts)
16. McCain did and he didn't look too happy.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:47 PM
Feb 2017

He made call to the Australian Prime Minister to say we what to continue being allies. You know it's like the father figure apologizing to the principal after their child was being a bully.

No wonder trump's daddy kicked his ass out when he was younger.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
18. Because they are morally bankrupt.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:12 PM
Feb 2017

All they care about is power. And if they stand up and say the truth they will lose their place in the party. They are hostages to the devil, having sold their souls.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
20. Even their political positions
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:30 PM
Feb 2017

Are all about power over other people. Abortions, "religious freedom" to discriminate, giving blank checks to corporations so they can have power, controlling other countries.

Also, a whole lot of cowardice.

marlakay

(11,457 posts)
19. Fox news, want abortion illegal
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:21 PM
Feb 2017

Agree with Trump about Muslim ban. Pro military and because of Fox probably believe war is right.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
21. rethugliCONs are misfits, nerds, deplorables and whimps.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:54 PM
Feb 2017

They just fall in line and kiss the asses of their disgusting masters.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
22. I've been wondering if the Russians let the GOP leadership know about the dirt
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:01 PM
Feb 2017

They had just before the GOP convention. Remember that there was lots of talk about ways to block Trump up until about a week before the convention then all of that suddenly went silent.

With what has come out since I've wondered if the Russians let the GOP leadership know that they had tons of stuff that could be put out about every single one of them if they fought Trump's nomination. It would explain a lot of what has happened since.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
33. That's what I think
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 12:53 AM
Feb 2017

There was way too much buy in really quickly ftom republicans who previously said really negative stuff about Trump. Then suddenly he was a good candidate. I think the Russians have something on many and they're playing along to keep it quiet.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
23. They are all tough talking cowards who loves them some authoritarianism
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:04 PM
Feb 2017

It's so much easier to parrot a slogan than think for themselves. Plus, they think Jesus loves them.

ananda

(28,859 posts)
25. Reeps really know how to keep their people in line..
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:14 PM
Feb 2017

.. so they march in lock step.

It is a very rare occurrence when one breaks ranks.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
26. The answer is within the question, to wit: THEY ARE REPUBLICANS. Everything becomes clear, that
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:15 PM
Feb 2017

understood.

27. Some Republicans Are Fake First Amendment Supporters
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:23 PM
Feb 2017

My first post, so maybe I can create a thread later. I have a bone to pick and I'm sure many here could agree. On the very day... Free speech 1st amendment seems to be a republican headlines outcry after the UC Berkeley riot last night. I have to call out one big fake who pretends he's a big supporter of the 1st Amendment....Alex Jones who has for years banned thousands for their speech as was done to me today. Alex Jones is a big hypocrite, who pretends he's a big defender of free speech but bans constantly others, who he does not agree with. I would love to bring together all those who have been banned by Alex Jones over the years and make a compilation of people who would like to call Alex Jones a free speech fraud and hypocrite.

Rhiannon12866

(205,319 posts)
34. Nobody here is a fan of Alex Jones
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:02 AM
Feb 2017

In the previous version of this site, nothing by him was even allowed. Now, it's allowed, but only if it's critical or exposes exactly what you've said. But generally, no one wants to hear about him. He really is beneath contempt. Welcome to DU! You can be sure that others here share your opinion.

 

BigBoss

(23 posts)
29. Because
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:30 PM
Feb 2017

Republicans are cowards, they always have been. They present themselves as these rugged individualists but in reality they in a state of perpetual fear and paranoia. Its really sad.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
32. Because Trump is, ultimately, advancing their agenda
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:37 PM
Feb 2017

They'll let him push as much crazy nonsense as they can, all of it generally in line with their essential platform. So when Trump crashes and burns (for whatever reason), they can nobly step up to roll back his most egregious bullshit while still having significantly advanced their agenda. They'll be able to claim that they acted decisively to rein Trump in, even though he was part of their own party. And they'll use that slogan for decades, claiming to have proven their dedication to serving the country.

Further, every last one of those "buyer's remorse" voters, who now pretend that they've changed their minds about Trump, will certainly decide that the GOP has redeemed itself, and they'll be back to pulling the Red lever in 2018 and 2020.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
35. I think it's a combination
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:17 AM
Feb 2017

of Republicans who:
a. are racist dipshits and agree with Trump;
b. need votes from the racist dipshits in their district to hold on to their seat;
c. are similarly compromised either by the FSB or by other Republicans in another category;
d. see Trump as a useful idiot who will ram through their extremist agenda and who can easily be disposed of later;
e. are greedy and stupid and are betting that Trump's policies will end up enriching them in the end;
f. are even more corrupt than Trump and see his shenanigans as a useful cover for their own wrongdoing.

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
36. They like a lot of his policies but they may be worried about Bannon and
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:27 AM
Feb 2017

want a few more disasters to occur before stepping in. Also, stuff may still come out and take him down and they can sit and look pretty.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
38. Because the people (their constituents) still like Trump and Trumps policies. We can't understand
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:32 AM
Feb 2017

these people who voted for Trump and, according to polls, still support him. Part of it is they resent us "elites." Not sure why. Maybe it's because they think we feel superior to them. I notice that the people who especially are resentful are those who either didn't go to college, or even the people who went to a crappy university are resentful if went to a better school, etc.

There is nothing that breeds resentfulness and hatred than jealousy and envy.

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