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At the end of the day what the f--- can Russia do for the U S? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 OP
And in terms of trade? Making rich oil people filthy rich, period... it's literally all they have. bettyellen Feb 2017 #1
We are being played by the Sino-Russian alliance. roamer65 Feb 2017 #2
Let me see - did you study World War II? malaise Feb 2017 #3
Very, very well put, malaise. pangaia Feb 2017 #6
Nothing to do with the morality of the respective parties. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #9
The West forged alliances with worse Russians in WWII n/t malaise Feb 2017 #10
Because Hiltler was worse than Stalin. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #11
It's not about the US... lisa58 Feb 2017 #4
Thread Winner! world wide wally Feb 2017 #7
And perhaps they can help Trump by keeping certain blackmail videos in the vault. (nt) JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #12
They are holding twitlers debt randr Feb 2017 #5
I am more worried... Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #8
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. And in terms of trade? Making rich oil people filthy rich, period... it's literally all they have.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

Today one of the shows had clips about how they are heavily investing in arctic forces- troops working w reindeers and sleds- building huge ice breaking ships. They want the Northwest passage and to drill right on top of Canada.

malaise

(268,993 posts)
3. Let me see - did you study World War II?
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:53 PM
Feb 2017

Didn't they welcome poor American Communists early in the last century?

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Our side bombed Doctors without Borders hospitals in Afghanistan, fugged up the Vietnamese with Agent Orange and used Depleted Uranium in Iraq.

There are no innocents among world powers.

A more objective analysis is required for us all to move forward - and I'm not sure anyone hates Groper Don the Con more than me. All this talk about morality and exceptionalism is bullshit.

A better argument speaks to the benefits of Liberal Democracy and Rule of Law. You see for all its flaws the American people believe in the rule of law and the Constitution and will fight for both.

All are guilty of evil in the name of the interests of the dominant class/the fugging 1%.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. Very, very well put, malaise.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:04 PM
Feb 2017

Guatemala, anyone?

So often, even here, many just refuse to be discerning.

I have wanted to post something ;like what you did.

Something along the lines of, "Well, there is some truth in what Voldemort says."

But I can just imagine that certain clique alerting 'BOING BOING BOIMNG" we have an American hater! BOING BOIMNG!! """

So I didn't..

Thanks,

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Nothing to do with the morality of the respective parties.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:26 PM
Feb 2017

Drumpf wants to forge an alliance with Russia. There is nothing in it for us.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. Because Hiltler was worse than Stalin.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:48 PM
Feb 2017

Why ally with Russia to fight Muslim terrorists and piss off those who are on the fence?

Bannon and Flynn are itching to fight a war against Islam. It is in Putin's interest to have that war too. Why are we even fighting Muslims at all?


I can't even imagine what war against 1.7 billion people who are dispersed all over the globe would like.

randr

(12,412 posts)
5. They are holding twitlers debt
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:02 PM
Feb 2017

and will allow him to invest in Russian oil once he lifts sanctions and brings down the EPA

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