CNBC: Trump to Fox News: I may defund California as a weapon to fight illegal immigration

[yuiyoshida]

President Donald Trump is prepared to deprive the State of California of federal funding if it votes to become a sanctuary state, he said in a Fox News interview.

“If we have to, we’ll defund,” he said. “We give tremendous amounts of money to California.”

California Democrats in the Senate stepped up their fight against the president last week, advancing legislation that would provide statewide sanctuary for immigrants and keep local law enforcement from cooperating with federal authorities.

The president told Fox he is very much opposed to sanctuary cities, which he called “ridiculous.”

“They breed crime, there’s a lot of problems,” he said.


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As CLINT EASTWOOD SAID in DIRTY HARRY: "Go ahead, make my day..." Lets see what Jerry Brown will have to say about that...

[Glamrock]

1. Is he really that stupid?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that California gives more to the feds than they get back.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Yes, he is. And he's vindictive. He wants to punish CA because

it's doing something he disagrees with. Of course it won't work.

[GoCubsGo]

12. And, never mind that Congress controls the purse strings, not him.

He legally cannot "defund" anyone.

There needs to be a law that elected officials must pass a goddamn civics class in order to take office. FFS.

[CanonRay]

24. He's too ignorant to know what he cannot even do.

[doc03]

29. Won't Congress go along with anything he does? nt

[GoCubsGo]

31. Not necessarily.

Especially since California has at least a few republican congresspeople left.

[maxrandb]

80. Right, like any Retrumplican in Congress will stand up to him

Hey America! If you're hoping there are a couple of Retrumplicans who care more about our country than they do about their party...Good Fucking Luck

[Richard D]

55. And we didnt vote for him

By a large margin.

[rainy]

4. Can they stop paying federal taxes

If that happens!

[TheBlackAdder]

17. California is the #2 donor state, at $25 Billion a year--right behind New Jersey's $32 Billion.

[kysrsoze]

74. This is a strategy the state is looking into.

[Cha]

14. Yes, he's this stupid.

[Glamrock]

20. If only!

If stupid hurt, we'd be in better shape as a country.
.........and I'd be addicted to pain pills!

[vlyons]

62. Ya can't fix stupid

[Dorian Gray]

78. Wow....

He's going to do this. And he's going to make states truly want to secede.

[putitinD]

2. California pays a lot more in Federal taxes than it receives. Nice try Drumpf.

[Glamrock]

6. That's what I thought.

I'll go ahead and throw this out there then...

[kairos12]

30. Exactly.

[fescuerescue]

58. That's true.

But if California get's nothing back, and the residents are still compelled to pay Federal Taxes. That gap would get a little bit bigger.

At can't see how that would be legal though.

[putitinD]

83. truth is; most of the blue states pay much more to the Fed than they get back, while

most of the red state get back from the Fed much more (3 to 1 for Mississippi,
Louisiana, Tennessee, and West Virginia) than they pay.

[fescuerescue]

87. Right. I'm not disputing that

What I'm saying that if the state gets back nothing from the feds, while the residents and corporations continue to pay in.

Well that gap would be massive.

That's what Trump is threatening. Continue to collect taxes from the states, but pay zero to them if they don't obey the Feds.

[AngryAmish]

89. Californians should not pay their US income taxes.

[fescuerescue]

92. I agree

The power of the IRS and tax withholding isn't something to take lightly though.

[pbmus]

68. For every dollar they give the Feds, Cali gets back .72 cents...

The Big Con would be cutting off his own nose...ignorant bastard he is..

[grantcart]

5. now he is just pulling out shit from his ass.

[dchill]

9. Now?

When has he not?

[grantcart]

22. I know but I really don't have anything else I can say that is more accurate.

[dchill]

25. I know. It's probably not even real shit.

Probably alternate shit. I'm seeing bearded Spocks everywhere.

[Cha]

15. Now?

[Croney]

7. There's a fake news story going around Facebook

that he's already snapped his fingers and defunded UCBerkeley. It can't be much harder to defund the whole state, right?

[nikibatts]

8. Well CA should defund the rest of America.

how about that? Trump has already made not paying taxes a patriotic act. Not paying taxes and trashing almost every US government institution and the other two branches of government is now Trumps brand.

[dchill]

10. I'll bet NY would join in.

[Amaryllis]

13. There is actually a movement in CA to seccede...

[NewJeffCT]

85. It's not a real movement, though

it's run by Right Wing activist who now lives in Russia. More attempts to divide the left.

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/12/13/from-his-home-in-russia-calexit-leader-plots-california-secession/

[Historic NY]

11. Jackass doesn't know about the ports.....the ports...

[Cha]

16. Fucking bully stupid bully monster

[Zorro]

18. Trump is declaring war on US citizens

[Foo Fighter]

19. Next, I bet he says he'll make them pay for the wall.

Then he'll declare that he's cutting off SS and Medicare for California residents, effective immediately.

The stupid just never stops with this guy.

[Warpy]

21. No, Fatso, the courts won't let you do that, either

You're still not a king, you're an ugly man in an office he's completely unprepared for and you need to shut that sewer you call a mouth and listen to experts instead of to that fucking crank Bannon.

[Merlot]

23. My first prediction was that drumptf would come after California

We were actually behind the Muslims, and we know how well that workd out.

Gov. Jerry Brown is already in fighting form.

[Jimbo101]

26. He not only stirs it,...

He steps right in it.

[dalton99a]

27. Trump will defund DU if people on here keep talking smack about him

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[angrychair]

52. Really?

Here's your pizza, enjoy your stay!

[Mister Ed]

79. I think the poster was joking.

But maybe you're joking along with him, and I'm too dense to pick up on it.

[dalton99a]

84. That totally went over your head, didn't it?

[lordsummerisle]

28. He keeps making pronouncements

about funding and defunding as if Congress didn't even exist...

[manicraven]

32. He thinks he's king or a dictator.

[NurseJackie]

33. Is it wrong for me to HOPE that he tries it?

[SHRED]

34. WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT

Sanctuary cities have lower crime rates.
He's not Congress.
California is a donor state.

What a liar.

[Doodley]

35. This is how Trump has run his businesses - as a bully, threatening people to get his own way

[Xolodno]

36. Riiiiiiiggghhhtttt.....

And what would happen if California decided not to remit federal taxes and use them in the state? Kansas, Oklahoma, etc. suddenly wouldn't have the funds they were counting on.


FYI, this was one of the methods a number of Soviet Republics used to break away.

[roamer65]

38. CA could actually reduce taxes.

The transfer payment imbalance would be immediately corrected.

[roamer65]

37. I'm sure the Canadian confederation would accept CA, OR and WA quite readily.

The Canadian dollar would be come the new currency of the new Canadian provinces.

New England and NY would not be far behind.

[Kennah]

39. Don't tease me like that. I'm in the Evergreen State. (n/t)

[MFM008]

76. Me 2

The state of Calicanaoretonian.

[notdarkyet]

44. I would move there.

[angrychair]

57. Sounds good to me

Where do I sign?

[Kennah]

40. Blue States Are Less Dependent On The Federal Government

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/#red-vs-blue

[roamer65]

41. Michigan is a net loser as well.

We would be better off in the Canadian conferderation.

It was and is a blue state. The votes were not properly counted in Detroit.

[notdarkyet]

42. Well, for starters there are more than four million people

In CA who did not vote for you, as well as some pretty rich tech businesses. I think you'll get a lot of push back you stupid jerk. You are just, mean, vindictive and nasty, I don't see how anyone can stand to be near you.

[roamer65]

56. Who are you talking about?

I am assuming Donald Dump...lol.

[jg10003]

43. CA has 14 repub congressmen. I wonder what they will say.

[Eyeball_Kid]

49. You mean, "What will they say after they wet their pants laughing?"

[AllaN01Bear]

45. viva reformed california

i wish we could pull the plug on faux noize

[Turbineguy]

46. It seems that idea came up before

and funding can only be withdrawn from programs that are not functioning or not achieving their stated objectives.

Government is unlike business where you can remove funding from one program, say employee retirements, to cover overruns in an other area, say executive bonuses.

[Eyeball_Kid]

47. Jerry Brown is laughing his ass off. Go ahead, Trumpy. Make your day.

Get Bannon to write you an executive order banning California from federal outlays. He'll have the entire nation giggling with delight, waiting for Trumpy to figure out that he'll be pointing a gun to his head if he tries step one.

[rpannier]

48. California is a donor state

And is the 6th largest economy on this planet
Good luck with that threat Hair Doofenshmidt

[TomCADem]

59. Also, That Would Pretty Much Cause The Remaining Congressional Republicans in CA...

...to lose their seats. Tom McClintock, Darrell Issa, etc.

[rpannier]

61. Wouldn't miss them

Not a damned one

[NewJeffCT]

86. Most of the top donor states

are blue states - NJ and Connecticut are typically the biggest donors per capita. I think it was 8 or 9 of the top 10 the last I checked. And, the biggest welfare states are almost all red states.

[FailureToCommunicate]

50. Is this not treason? It didn't work out for Jefferson Davis. Let's hope this orange idiot

doesn't take it that far.

[elmac]

51. the red states (gop & putin states) take much more then they give

which pretty much sums up the whole party, a bunch of takers.

[Beartracks]

53. Trump: Still thinks President means King or CEO.

Or Dictator. No wonder he likes to compare himself to Putin, and America to Russia.

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[raising2moredems]

54. Well then no sense of CA residents paying federal taxes then..

If it were not for blue states, particularly CA/NY/IL, the red states would not get their welfare payments.

Each and every one of us who has the discretionary dollars should ensure that those in voter suppressing states obtain the proper id to vote. Just sayin'...

[lpbk2713]

60. This guy is ludicrous.

He has no idea how to run a country. I hope the majority of the voters never
forget this is who the GOP wanted to be our president. They could have replaced
him before the GE but they refused to do it.

[kevink077]

63. California can support itself.

What a fool. Funny almost all of the red states need that blue state money.

[KingCharlemagne]

66. And we have the ports.

[PatrickforO]

64. Defund California???

You just can't make this shit up.

[Generic Other]

65. Tit for Tat

If California and other pissed off states withhold paying taxes, they will turn the lights out at the White House.

Stupid chump!

[Blue_true]

67. California is looking into withholding Federal taxes

Collected by the state and shielding their citizens against IRS issues. I don't it says in the Constitution that a state has to turn over it's tax money to the FEDs.

[yuiyoshida]

69. What's next, declare War on California?

would like to see him try...

[Kennah]

93. If Trump declares War on California, then I'm declaring WAR ON CHRISTMAS!

Suck it, O'Reilly!

[Initech]

70. As a proud Californian, I will say: KISS MY FUCKING ASS, Trump!

[yuiyoshida]

71. hey!!

[workinclasszero]

72. What a fuckin moron

Its hard to believe an idiot like Trump is...sitting in the white house!

He defends a murdering dictator like Putin while slamming the US and if that wasn't traitorous enough..

He threatens the state of California like a MFing dictator!! Who the hell does Orange Hitler think he is???

STATES RIGHTS ASSHOLE!!!

You know the thing lyin ass republicans claim to be for until they are in power?

[kysrsoze]

73. Bring it on, Comrade Assface

[torius]

75. He is still doing Facebook ads.

I just saw one about the ban, he was complaining about the courts, just a few lines of text and his photo. WTF. When I see his ads I click the laugh emoji. Hope our side is doing FB ads too.

[treestar]

77. Not only does he not have the power to do that

It is his responsibility, or the federal government's, to enforce immigration laws, not any state's.

[Buns_of_Fire]

81. Big threats from a little man.

Methinks the boy "misspeaketh" much too often. If the story gets legs, Kellyanne will no doubt be making her rounds to try to patch up ye-gods-yet-still-ANOTHER shitstorm his big mouth got the administration into.

Asshole wouldn't even release any funds to help the poor massacre victims in Bowling Green.

Me, I will stand with California.

[yuiyoshida]

82. Yes, This.

[AngryAmish]

88. People in California should have a tax steike

No paying taxes until Trump behaves. Put down you have ten dependants and withhold taxes.

[alarimer]

90. California sends more money to DC than they get back.

All blue states do. What a dumbass.

[IronLionZion]

91. Dude wants a civil war!

Also thinks that without California, he would have won the popular vote too.

Things could start to be more like The Man in the High Castle every day. The west coast could break off. The racist states could start a reich. And other states will be the resistance.