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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN & MSNBC have a decision to make, and they have little time left
They need to STOP polluting their share of OUR airwaves with right wing drivel.
It is now more important than ever, to be able to tune in and see some truth and real news.
We are not now (or EVER were) even slightly amused/interested in hearing anything that comes out of the mouths of the right.
They HAVE "their channel", and that's the only channel they need.
It may have seemed "the right thing to do", to "fair & balance" things, but it really wasn't (see Iraq war)..and it may never be again. We all know what rightwingers think and are not interested in seeing them over-talk,interrupt and hog all the time.
Right-wingers are toxic, lying sycophants who will say anything they are told to say, even though they must know they are lying.
The bosses probably think that hedging their bets by showing "both sides" is the way to program, but for the people who are their true base, it's very off-putting, and has driven me to more BBC, and less MSNBC/CNN.
manicraven
(901 posts)Good grief, but they base their propaganda on his lies! And, they insult all of our intelligence. It's not like the right is bringing anything worthwhile to discuss--they just churn out crap and silliness.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,429 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)I thought they didn't
still_one
(92,187 posts)republicans in congress, MSNBC was the first network to report as "breaking news", that the FBI had reopened the email investigation. THAT WAS A LIE. They then proceeded to parade every right wing politician on their screen to propagate that lie for the next hour. Soon CNN and the others joined in the facade.
MSNBC is actually worse than CNN
I read the major Newspapers, PBS, BBC, and don't have to watch these idiots try to legitimize sexism, racism, and xenophobia
rurallib
(62,411 posts)or democracy or any of that crap.
$$$$$$ that's what they care about.
Comcast and Time-Warner
scscholar
(2,902 posts)still are so very strong. So very strong. I live in Seattle, and I see how hateful all of those Microsoft employees are. They even protect rapists.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And yet even more allegations lacking any objective evidence to support them.
maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)not hateful, and not protecting rapists.
WTF are you talking about?
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)we are out of directions.
MountainFool
(91 posts)Microsoft has had nothing to do with MSNBC for a while now.
From the wiki:
Microsoft divested its stake in the MSNBC channel in 2005, and divested its stake in msnbc.com in July 2012, rebranding the general news site as NBCNews.com and creating a new msnbc.com as the online home of the cable news channel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC
(omg, I'm defending Microsoft! Hell really has frozen over)
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)It reports and tracks viewers voting on the poll question of the day and it's administered by Microsoft.
So they do have some overlap once again.
rurallib
(62,411 posts)Microsoft has nothing to do with MSNBC and hasn't for a long time.
DU likes comments with some evidence
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... together
MountainFool
(91 posts)I cut my cable a year ago because all I was getting was crap on all the "news" channels. Just cut the cable and don't let your $ go to these idiots.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Use news sources that care as much about their integrity as they do profit.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)Sometimes he will criticize Trump and sometimes he sounds like he has a man crush on him.
Avoid watching between noon and 2pm and then avoid Wolf Blitzer in the evening and you shouldn't get irritated nearly as much.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)VaBchTgerLily
(231 posts)We don't need Spicer's alternative facts
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)What I mean is that we tend to focus on cable news because it is on 24/7 -- but regular people (non-politicos) watch regular network news.
The producers at CNN could only DREAM about getting the kind ratings that Lester Holt gets on NBC Nightly News.
NBC and ABC nightly news shows each get about 8 million viewers each night = 16 million. CNN is lucky to get a million for their evening news. And Fox gets only two million.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)One of the results of the demise of the Fairness Doctrine.
Initech
(100,068 posts)If we get back in power in 2018, that should be our first goal. The GOP has been able to get away with fake news and bullshit for too long. If we can deny them the ability to slander us day in and day out, we can stop them for good.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)And make no bones about it, any future Democratic front runner will get the same treatment. Because it works. The Big Lie theory has been proven over and over to actually work on the human psyche. They know it, and they use it to its fullest.
I have thought in the past that we should be using their own words against them. That once, I hope, the Democrats eventually get both the Presidency and the House back, someone from the party who can maintain a straight face must go on air and use the right wing's constant cry of their persecution by the dominance of the "liberal media" to say...you know you are right and we will concede and do the right thing and pass a new version of the fairness doctrine to make sure that the right gets to have at least a guaranteed 50% of the time on the air. Of course those in office, and those in the right wing radio media will raise bloody hell, but we have talk over them and reach the idiocracy beneath them that have been convinced that the left is dominating the media.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)calling out rightwing spin and alternative facts, and she and John Berman just got 2 hours weekday mornings.
Much better than what is ongoing on at MSNBC.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)The news media better pull their heads out of their asses or they will find their ratings doing the same thing. America has decided it doesn't trust Trump - or his cabal of lying sycophants. The M$M needs to decide if they want to lose more market share and the money they can charge for advertising on their shit shows.
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)...I turn the channel. I hadn't thought of watching BBC...I'll give that a try. I just want balanced reporting and when anyone is blatantly telling lies, I want them called on it. Enough of the soft balls.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)BBC will represent both sides. Accurately.
You will still hear the right wing talking points on BBC. But then you can hear it in the attitude of the presenters of the radio shows (Newsday, Newshour, etc) if they ever get to speak with someone representing the point of view espoused by DJT etc. I bet some of the Newsday team are thinking "we reported on crap like this happening frequently in Africa, and now we report on this crap happening in America now?"
CNN could go more international and have more international stories on the US service - makes it easier to say to a talking head that they're out of time on the interview. There's plenty of news in the world.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)ENOUGH ALREADY
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)we need to pressure them massively