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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 03:58 PM Feb 2017

Pences excuses for Trump fall flat

Vice President Pence, when challenged on President Trump’s language — for example, referring to a federal judge who enjoined his travel ban as a “so-called judge” — likes to use the crutch that the president has “a right to speak his mind.” This attempt to cast Trump as a victim — you’re denying him his First Amendment rights! — personifies the dysfunction and confusion at the heart of the presidency.

To begin with, the standard for being president, we’d like to think, remains higher than for the average citizen. Americans are entitled to expect more — that he abide by ethical standards, divest himself of conflicts of interest, reveal his tax returns, tell the truth and show respect for the co-equal branches. Frankly, his nominees (including Tillerson, who did divest himself of financial holdings) abide by a higher standard than he. The message Trump sends (and Pence as his surrogate sends) is that when it comes to this president we should have lower standards and higher tolerance for misbehavior. His desire to say what he wants, make money and ignore ethical standards take precedence.

There was this exchange on ABC’s “This Week”:

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: The president is vowing to overturn that order. This morning he called it, “A ridiculous order from a so-called judge.” A so-called judge.

Is it appropriate for the president to be questioning the legitimacy of a federal judge in that way?

PENCE: Through the course of the campaign and in the early days of this administration, President Trump’s made it clear that our administration is going to put the safety and security of the American people first. And the executive order that he put into effect, which suspends immigration from seven countries that have been compromised by terrorism and don’t have the kind of internal systems that we can be certain that people that are applying to come to this country are who they say they are, was legal. It was appropriate. And our administration is going to be using all legal means at our disposal to challenge the judge’s order.

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Pences excuses for Trump fall flat (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 OP
Pence will go down with him... Blanks Feb 2017 #1
This is one of the benifits of the Democrats fighting tooth and nail against trump. Salviati Feb 2017 #2

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
1. Pence will go down with him...
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 04:07 PM
Feb 2017

He keeps backing him up. He also said something along the lines "he speaks his mind, and the American people find that refreshing, that's one of the things they like about him".

It's possible that Trump will last the entire term, although that seems less likely as time goes by, but when Pence steps in for him, all this nonsense that he has said to support him will come back to haunt him.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
2. This is one of the benifits of the Democrats fighting tooth and nail against trump.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:49 PM
Feb 2017

Even in battles they can't win, they're forcing the republicans to publicly have his back, hastening the day when he's doing more to hurt them than help them.

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