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Former AL Gov. Don Siegelman to be released from prison Wednesday
WSFA 12 News Staff
Posted: 02/06/2017 3:09 PM
http://m.wbrc.com/myfoxal/db/330638/content/ckKD6gzm
MONTGOMERY, AL (WSFA) - Former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman has been told that he will be released from prison on Wednesday, according to his former aide, Chip Hill.
Hill said Siegelman will be on very restricted supervised probation for an initial period of time, which is expected to last about six months.
Following that probationary period, Siegelman will be on unsupervised probation for an extended, but not yet specified period of time.
Hill said that after he returns home, the former governor will report to an assigned probation officer who will provide him with much more detailed information about what restrictions he will have, including specifics regarding media access.
"Naturally, his family and many friends are very excited about his release and very much look forward to seeing him," Hill said.
Siegelman, who is serving a six-and-a-half year sentence in Oakdale, Louisiana, for bribery and obstruction of justice, posted to his online site back during Thanksgiving that he could be released as early as Feb.
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raging moderate
(4,305 posts)I have followed this story for so long! I am so glad for Don Siegelman, and for his family!
The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)This took way too long. One of my Obama admin disappointments.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Obama didn't commute Chealse Manning's sentence. The guy only had so much latitude, he had to prioritize issues and causes, something some people can't seem to grasp.
choie
(4,111 posts)what lack of "latitude" did he have? what was constraining him?
elleng
(130,905 posts)before anyone had heard of Chelsea Manning.
Deep politics intervened when it should not have.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)in two weeks
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Information and Instructions on Pardons
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2. Federal convictions only
Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense. Accordingly, if you are seeking clemency for a state criminal conviction, you should not complete and submit this petition. Instead, you should contact the Governor or other appropriate authorities of the state where you reside or where the conviction occurred (such as the state board of pardons and paroles) to determine whether any relief is available to you under state law. If you have a federal conviction, information about the conviction may be obtained from the clerk of the federal court where you were convicted.
3. Five-year waiting period required
Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency, 28 C.F.R. §§ 1.1 et seq., an applicant must satisfy a minimum waiting period of five years before he becomes eligible to apply for a presidential pardon of his federal conviction. The waiting period, which is designed to afford the petitioner a reasonable period of time in which to demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life, begins on the date of the petitioner's release from confinement. Alternatively, if the conviction resulted in a sentence that did not include any form of confinement, including community or home confinement, the waiting period begins on the date of sentencing. In addition, the petitioner should have fully satisfied the penalty imposed, including all probation, parole, or supervised release before applying for clemency. Moreover, the waiting period begins upon release from confinement for your most recent conviction, whether or not this is the offense for which pardon is sought. You may make a written request for a waiver of this requirement. However, waiver of any portion of the waiting period is rarely granted and then only in the most exceptional circumstances. In order to request a waiver, you must complete the pardon application form and submit it with a cover letter explaining why you believe the waiting period should be waived in your case.
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If it had been a state conviction, he cannot pardon
If it were a federal one, there is still a five year waiting period
Did Seigelman apply for one?
former9thward
(32,006 posts)His power to pardon (or commute) anyone who has been convicted or could be convicted of a federal crime can't be restricted by the DOJ or anyone else. Nixon was pardoned by Ford and he had not even been convicted of a crime. There was no waiting period. Nixon never applied for a pardon. I could give many other examples. Obama had full power to pardon Seigelman at anytime after Noon, January 20, 2009 until the end of his terms.
The DOJ puts out these rules to keep the Pardon Office from being deluged by requests -- not to limit the president's power.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)From the Department of Justice website:
Information and Instructions on Pardons
snip
2. Federal convictions only
Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense. Accordingly, if you are seeking clemency for a state criminal conviction, you should not complete and submit this petition. Instead, you should contact the Governor or other appropriate authorities of the state where you reside or where the conviction occurred (such as the state board of pardons and paroles) to determine whether any relief is available to you under state law. If you have a federal conviction, information about the conviction may be obtained from the clerk of the federal court where you were convicted.
3. Five-year waiting period required
Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency, 28 C.F.R. §§ 1.1 et seq., an applicant must satisfy a minimum waiting period of five years before he becomes eligible to apply for a presidential pardon of his federal conviction. The waiting period, which is designed to afford the petitioner a reasonable period of time in which to demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life, begins on the date of the petitioner's release from confinement. Alternatively, if the conviction resulted in a sentence that did not include any form of confinement, including community or home confinement, the waiting period begins on the date of sentencing. In addition, the petitioner should have fully satisfied the penalty imposed, including all probation, parole, or supervised release before applying for clemency. Moreover, the waiting period begins upon release from confinement for your most recent conviction, whether or not this is the offense for which pardon is sought. You may make a written request for a waiver of this requirement. However, waiver of any portion of the waiting period is rarely granted and then only in the most exceptional circumstances. In order to request a waiver, you must complete the pardon application form and submit it with a cover letter explaining why you believe the waiting period should be waived in your case.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)The president doesn't have control over state charges.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)former9thward
(32,006 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Then you are right it's disappointing.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)i love Obama but he broke my heart sometimes.
elleng
(130,905 posts)and shame on the Obama administration. Very sorry to say this, but it MUST be said, imo.
I emailed and called the white house regarding the governor....too no avail. Would love to know the actual reason this sentence was allowed to stand.
GregD
(2,263 posts)I am so happy for him.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Paladin
(28,257 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Response to MrModerate (Reply #11)
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kairos12
(12,861 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)Thank you for sharing this great news!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)a bright star, up and comer for us. And, to see pics of him now is just heartbreaking. He pretty much gave up the prime of his life. And THEY did it to him.
Rhiannon12866
(205,353 posts)We sure needed some good news about now and this is it!
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,120 posts)It could draw attention to political punishment in the age of Trump. Vitally important.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)with a great trial lawyer team !
subterranean
(3,427 posts)Don't know why he has to be on such restrictive probation, though, given the nature of his supposed crime.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)lucca18
(1,241 posts)It was a long time coming, but finally the day is here.
nkpolitics1212
(8,617 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)to bet that there's something in the records we aren't privy to that disturbed Obama enough to refuse. I have nothing against Siegelman, but I also have enough faith in Barack Obama to know that his reasoning was well thought out.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,735 posts)President Obama always has a reason why he does or does not do things.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)and I have to agree...I have enough faith in the integrity and character of Barack Obama to say there's got to be more to this than is publically known.
Karl Rove is a turd but he's not unstoppable...
Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)Obama wouldn't have been able to pardon him.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Correct me if I'm wrong?
Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)state or federal.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)how can they muzzle him as part of his probation?!
his story needs to be told far and wide. never should have spent even one second in jail.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Civil Rights Pilgrimage
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heaven05
(18,124 posts)He should NEVER have spent a day in prison...that other evil midget Rove did this......and got away with it....I don't know background but with Roves hand in this....something has to stink. I hope Siegleman can clear his name.....
HelenWheels
(2,284 posts)Served time for a trumped up charge. Pres. Obama should have pardoned him.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)than the woman who killed my daughter. i find it hard to even imagine the frustration he's had to deal with over these years.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)they are looking for any little reason to put his ass back in lockup !