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applegrove

(118,654 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:01 PM Feb 2017

Did anyone else see the Betsy Devos ad on CNN? How would that

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be paid for? Does it get around campaign finance laws? I don't understand. If the GOP can afford ads in non election times what hope is there?

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Did anyone else see the Betsy Devos ad on CNN? How would that (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2017 OP
Apparently by his already filing for re-election in 2020, PACs can run ads. LisaM Feb 2017 #1
That's awful. applegrove Feb 2017 #2
It has nothing to do with Trump's FEC filing. onenote Feb 2017 #12
Called my senator Florida-Liberal Feb 2017 #3
Did you try the Florida numbers? Before six PM, easier to get through. bettyellen Feb 2017 #4
I've seen 2 today MFM008 Feb 2017 #5
I've seen one for Neil Gorsuch at least twice LibinMo Feb 2017 #6
Saw one on Fox... Baconator Feb 2017 #10
I don't get it. rasberry Feb 2017 #7
Saw it again just now LibinMo Feb 2017 #8
was it cable or local TV? pstokely Feb 2017 #9
Local LibinMo Feb 2017 #11
are you opposed to the ads being run against cabinet nominees? onenote Feb 2017 #14
i saw an ad for the new republican healthcare plan THAT THEY DON'T HAVE YET. spanone Feb 2017 #13
I saw it and I went, "Huh? Why?" Iggo Feb 2017 #15
Why are ads run for or against any nominee or any legislation? onenote Feb 2017 #16
So I guess they were trying to get people to call their Senators in support of the nominee? Iggo Feb 2017 #17
It's not really that new. onenote Feb 2017 #18

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
1. Apparently by his already filing for re-election in 2020, PACs can run ads.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:04 PM
Feb 2017

I am not that well acquainted with the ins and outs of the law, but that's what I read.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
12. It has nothing to do with Trump's FEC filing.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:17 PM
Feb 2017

The ads are being run and funded by pro-Devos groups. Just as there are ads being run groups opposed to various Trump nominees. If you think the former are inappropriate, you can't defend the latter either.

Florida-Liberal

(5 posts)
3. Called my senator
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:12 PM
Feb 2017

No doubt I called Senator Rubio to vote no on DeVos. Guess what happened.... Voice mail...Try again later.

LibinMo

(533 posts)
6. I've seen one for Neil Gorsuch at least twice
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:06 PM
Feb 2017

I can't remember ever seeing a political ad for a Supreme Court nominee. Maybe I haven't been paying attention up to now.

rasberry

(49 posts)
7. I don't get it.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 12:30 AM
Feb 2017

How are these ads even legal? It is just frightening to see ads for cabinet members and for the Supreme Court. The ads sound reasonable and are sure to influence people who will never check anything our themselves.

LibinMo

(533 posts)
8. Saw it again just now
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:01 AM
Feb 2017

The ad is paid for by The Judicial Crisis Network https://judicialnetwork.com/
The organization was founded in 2005 to promote the judicial appointees of then president George W. Bush.

Their Wikipedia article is very interesting. They paid for ads opposing Merrick Garland.

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
9. was it cable or local TV?
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:58 AM
Feb 2017

I've seen one JCN ad here on local news, just one, I don't watch cable news

onenote

(42,702 posts)
14. are you opposed to the ads being run against cabinet nominees?
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:19 PM
Feb 2017

I'm not. In fact, I've sent contributions to help pay for those ads. But I'm not so hypocritical as to criticize those who would run ads taking the opposing point of view.

And ads for or against Supreme Court nominees are not new. https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/homenews/news/19830-liberal-group-runs-first-pro-sotomayor-ad

onenote

(42,702 posts)
16. Why are ads run for or against any nominee or any legislation?
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:29 PM
Feb 2017

To generate public support or opposition.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
17. So I guess they were trying to get people to call their Senators in support of the nominee?
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 02:12 PM
Feb 2017

Okay, I guess.

I never noticed this kind of thing for a confirmation hearing/vote before.

Kinda threw me.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
18. It's not really that new.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 02:25 PM
Feb 2017

The first ads I recall relating to a SCOTUS nomination (although there may have been others) were during the Bork confirmation hearings. Most of the time, the nominations aren't so controversial as to warrant ad campaigns on either side. But even the Sotamayor confirmation had ads pro and con.

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