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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't want to get too much ahead of events but
imagine trump's reaction if/when the Supremes let the stay remain in effect.
'A ruling by the court on Mr. Trumps travel ban on seven predominantly Muslim countries could help answer some crucial legal questions: How much independent constitutional authority does the president have over immigration, and how much power has Congress given him?
The likely answer to both questions: a lot. But other parts of the Constitution may temper or defeat that power. Among them are the due process and equal protection clauses and the First Amendments ban on government establishment of religion. . .
Many trial judges around the country have blocked aspects of Mr. Trumps executive order. But none have issued an order as broad as the one by Judge James Robart, a federal judge in Seattle, who blocked the key parts of the executive order, which had suspended travel from the seven countries and limited the nations refugee program.'>>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/05/us/politics/trump-immigration-law.html?
See trump and watch the world respond!
Oral argument tomorrow will be FASCINATING, and then . . . .
spanone
(135,831 posts)he thinks he's king
elleng
(130,895 posts)what do We the People and our Representatives do? Will we/Can we just let it GO?
madaboutharry
(40,210 posts)Imagine the twitter meltdown.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)Even if Gorsuch is confirmed and is on the Court by the time the case gets there, he, too, would probably rule against the EO. I'm saying this not because I think Gorsuch should be confirmed (I don't, but realistically he probably will be), but because he is a big fan of Scalia. And Scalia once said about the Korematsu case (upholding the internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII), that Justice Jackson's dissenting opinion in that case was the past court opinion he admired most, adding "It was nice to know that at least somebody on the court realized that that was wrong."
When the Supreme Court ruled against Nixon, ordering him to turn over the secret tapes, Nixon complied even though he knew he'd be ruined. At the time, though, I recall a fair amount of discussion about whether he might refuse to turn over the tapes and even use the military to barricade himself in the WH. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump tried to ignore a Supreme Court order, though, because he's way crazier than Nixon ever was.
napi21
(45,806 posts)He asked how many terrorists actions have been done by people from these Countries? What justification do you have for issuing this ban? I don't recall everything he said, but the attorneys from Justice didn't have answers. From what I heard Con & co. don't stand much of a chance in their appeal.
elleng
(130,895 posts)THAT judge, and those on the 9th Circuit who will hear it next, are mostly pretty 'savvy,' each in their own way.
Right, the Government attorney had no response. Sure feel sorry for her!
REALLY looking forward to tomorrow's Argument!
amerikat
(4,909 posts)We we need to get ahead of this.
elleng
(130,895 posts)Pence will do the abhorrent in the 'proper,/standard' ways, along with a vice president, a real substantive nightmare, but presumably without nuclear war.
Prepare to fight long term.
napi21
(45,806 posts)HIS religious beliefs into Federal Law.
vanlassie
(5,670 posts)be seriously weakened. Pence will not be able to run roughshod.