It is fucking relentless.

[Stinky The Clown]

Name an issue you care about and it gets hit.

Just today we saw the first death blow to public schools and the final go-ahead to the desecration of a an American first nation's land.

Day after day. Hit after hit.

And we have no power anywhere. We will soon lose the court for a generation.

It all feels huge and that puts a person on overload. And yet there is no end in sight.

[frankieallen]

1. what is the story behind these incidents you mentioned?

[Stinky The Clown]

3. DeVos confirmed. Pipeline okayed by ACE.

[bdamomma]

67. What is happening to the water protectors

in North Dakota???? Leave the Native Indians alone!!!!

[liberalhistorian]

68. Not only that, but just after Devos'

confirmation a repub mofo congressman introduced a bill to completely abolish the federal Dept. of Education by Dec. 31, 2017, and turn all education over to the states for state and local control. Many speculate that this will mean the selling of public schools and the use of the money for a network of fundie schools to implement Devos' notion of using the schools for "advancing the Kingdom of God". As the daughter of retired teachers, I am beyond sickened, appalled, frightened and disgusted.

And what will this mean for the education of and services for children with disabilities? The IDEA Act is a federal act with federal funding and most states greatly resist having to give any kind of educational services to those with disabilities. We will go back to the days before the IDEA Act passage in the mid-70's, to the isolation of children with disabilities and refusal to provide them with any education or services unless the parents pay through the nose. I'm old enough to remember those days in my own schooling. I have a learning disability and my son has a type of autism, and I know many, many others with similar disabilities and issues' one of whom inexplicably voted for the Orange Dictator despite her misgivings over his horrendous views on disabilities.

[wordpix]

85. are you living under a rock? READ! Watch other than Faux News!

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

92. I get a little frustrated by OP's alluding unclearly to less prominent events,

assuming we'll all know what they refer to. I just can't always keep up with every development. But, c'mon frankieallen! No offense, but can't we all take responsibility for at least keeping up with the hugest most egregious and widely reported major political current events like the ones mentioned in this OP?

[ElkeH]

2. A blow to civil rights tomorrow

I read Sessions could be confirmed as Attorney General as early as tomorrow evening

[avebury]

64. As horrid as Sessions is, if the Democrats has allowed

him to be voted on in the Senate we would have had a serious shot at defeating DeVos because Sessions would not have been able to vote. We haven't had any luck with keeping any of the nominees out as it is and we probably blew the one chance at a victory.

[progressoid]

4. It's pretty depressing.

I'm hoping our party and the American public make a big change in congress in 2018.

[catbyte]

54. Not with the Election Assistance Center being chopped.

They're trying to rig it so that Democrats won't have any power until demographics overtake their shriveled white asses. I'm 61 and I don't think any of this can or will be fixed in my lifetime. I've never been so depressed. I'm so glad that I never had kids--that would be too much for me, but my heart breaks for everyone else's.

[Plucketeer]

66. I never said I wanted kids

Well, I had some anyway - not by choice, but by chance. They've had their challenges as kids and adults, but I'm proud to say that they and my grandkids voted and voted in their own best interests. What my grandkids are gonna be facing from here on out, I feel guilty I couldn't fend off with what little I could and can do. I'm 72 and for the moment, fairly comfortable, but I can certainly see where even my little world could be flipped upside down. So that certainly doesn't make me feel any easier, short OR long-term. The really disheartening thing is the fact that there's nothing to turn things around other'n taking to the streets with pitchforks. I actually have a pitch fork and am still able to wield it for it's intended task. But I don't know if the TSA would allow me to take it along if I were to fly to den of thieves on the opposite coast. Sending a few bucks now and then seems like the most I can do. But I'm like you in that I (and my spouse as well - a retired civics teacher) am frustrated with the helplessness that feels like a crushing weight.

[LaydeeBug]

5. That's part of their plan...take a breather and take care of yourself and then RESIST nt

[moda253]

7. I hear people say resist and I ahve to wonder what they mean by that.

There is literally NOTHING that we can do legally that will be resisted. They simply do not care about legal recourse.

They are going to trump us at every turn.

RESIST to me is starting to take on a MUCH DARKER tone than calling representatives and showing up at a march. Ugly Ugly Ugly.

[LaydeeBug]

8. welcome to DU, but I wholeheartedly disagree

to each his own.

[VancouverDem]

21. Resist

Moda 253 - I don't know either what will turn the tide to get sanity back into politics, to get back everything that the Republicans aim to take away, but despair is definitely not going to help, not the least bit. Perhaps you can talk to your support people, to vent and to release your despair enough to get back into the fight.

To quote one of John Belushi's characters: "Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

It may get uglier than it is now, but what choice do we have?

[elmac]

25. it may take generations to undo the the damage the fascists have, will do

it took over 70 years to build the great society, it will take only 4 years to tear it down.

[adigal]

40. Thousands protested at Chuck Schumer's Brooklyn apartment last week

People protested at Rep. Faso's home in upstate NY last week. I think we may need to start doing this. These people want to put some of us in camps. Fire others who disagree. I think it's time to let them hear us day and night, right at home.

[hunter]

43. If enough of us gather in righteous angry witness they will be afraid.

Every last one of them needs to live in terror that We The People are plotting against them as they plot against us.

We don't have to do anything illegal, we just have to keep pressure on them that they turn against one another.

We are not alone, and we are not without allies. Even giant corporations, the left's nemesis in ordinary times, are turning against this Trump administration. His friends are small fry and mobsters. Bad for business. The real billionaires will squash this ignorant fool like a bug, he who merely plays a billionaire on television.

All the knobs and tools of this modern Republican Party, cowards as they are, will then retreat, claiming they were never minions to this monstrous evil. Your Trump-voting neighbor will disown him.

They have no mandate. They are weak.

[Hulk]

45. Spring is coming...

These insipid bastards are taking advantage of the weather and will be crapping their pants once things warm up and people multiply in numbers. God bless those brave souls that come out in this cold, wet, miserable weather most of us are experiencing this winter. I look for a long and hot summer ahead....and you can bet there will be many more demonstations to RESIST these brutal war lords of dRumpf and Putin.

[qwlauren35]

65. In my humble opinion...

it is time to reach out to all of the moderate Republicans and Independents, and get them to help turn this around. Democrats are not a majority in this country. Liberals are not a majority in this country. So moving forward involves working across the table. What we have on our side is that a LOT of people don't like Trump. If we can somehow get Congress afraid to follow his lead, then we win.

For example. The majority of seniors don't want Medicare touched. The majority of middle aged Americans don't want Medicare touched. It's an issue that will cut across party lines, and it needs to be used to create a powerful people's lobby. Same with Social Security. I think these are two issues that we can win on.

[agincourt]

94. In my humble opinion

there are some rural areas which could benefit from a true populist party that focuses exclusively on economic justice. The rural areas and cities are too far to the right for the democratic party but a party that focuses on the degradation of the working class by the monetarists(robber barons), might be a successful termite in these GOP strongholds. Hold off on issues like the death penalty, gun control and transgender bathrooms and just focus on living standards that are deteriorating under the Republicans. Unfortunately a lot of these rural areas have only libertarians for alternate parties. It would be a party that shows how the GOP is screwing them but not tackling the backwards social opinions, or at least not right away.

[bdamomma]

69. do you know what dark is???

how about Black Boc what are their intentions??? They are not protesters? Could they be hired by Bannon?? To give peaceful demonstrators a bad name??? To take away free speech??

Just food for thought.

[brush]

80. Keep some optimism. trump is unstable. Just heard on Progress radio that senior repugs realize it...

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and are discussing ways to get him out thru either impeachment or the 25th Amendment:

The Twenty-fifth Amendment (Amendment XXV) to the United States Constitution deals with succession to the Presidency and establishes procedures both for filling a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, as well as responding to Presidential disabilities. It supersedes the ambiguous wording of Article II, Section 1, Clause 6 of the Constitution, which does not expressly state whether the Vice President becomes the President or Acting President if the President dies, resigns, is removed from office or is otherwise unable to discharge the powers of the presidency.[1] The Twenty-fifth Amendment was adopted on February 10, 1967.[2]

It's said to be faster than impeachment and they could slide Pence right in.

And this just in also: Info is starting to emerge of Pence's email problem from when he was gov. of Indiana.

Let's all stay tuned and continue to resist. Things sometime change overnight. Remember we all thought the repugs and their so-called needed autopsy were dead for 2016.

Resist anyway you can.

[wordpix]

88. I for one will resist Dense, too--we don't need a theocracy anymore than a dictatorship

[wordpix]

86. yes, troll, we should sit back and wait for Trumputin to officially declare himself Fuhrer

WE WILL RESIST THIS POWER GRAB

[moda253]

6. I don't want to lose heart but.....

It's over.

I want to stay and fight this but fight with what? They are going to destroy every institution we have. They are going to burn it to the ground and they are going to destroy every limited avenue we have left.

I have kids and I am supposed to raise them in this garbage? I don't see how we change this. The effects are going to be felt for 40 years minimum. Why should I saddle them with this? They don't deserve this and they shouldn't have to grow up trying to claw back from this.

America is over I am afraid.

[Cosmocat]

9. Yep

There is some real grass roots energy, but it is very much a day (actually YEARS) late and a dollar short.

This all didn't happen November 8th, people let the rs gain Congress, many senate seats, the majority of state legislatures and governorships years ago.

[meadowlark5]

36. The Republicans, with the help of the Koch mastermind machine, decided to work from the ground up

Instead of top down. They started funneling money into local elections. Hell, they even funneled money into my county's school board election. They worked to get republicans on county/town/city councils, sheriffs, school boards, state senators, governors. All while dem voters seem to only interested with a presidential race.

I get so tired of hearing election after election how dems just aren't energized or excited about this candidate or that race. Too bad. It's your right and your duty to go vote. I've been voting for 36yrs with the exception of a few elections when I was moving a lot, and I can't say I've been overly excited to vote for anyone. I vote because I know the importance whether it's boring or not.

[LisaM]

51. Exactly. Every position matters.

And there might be more of us than there are of them - there are! - but you can't show up once every four years. Period. I'm livid at the people who dropped out of the picture after 2008. Where did they go? What did they expect?

[Cosmocat]

59. YEP

the Rs show up EVERY election.

They just have so much more focus and sense of pending doom, like their lives depend on it.

Ds, as noted, can't be bothered to ring the bell except on Presidential elections.

[Dallasdem1988]

71. Many do think their lives

Depend on it. Or at least their legacy. They see demographic shifts like we do, and as we cheer them on they work to stop them. A minority white country would be disastrous for repubs and they know that.

[elmac]

29. its over in a sense that elections and civil unrest can fix it

they can't, and that leaves few options.

[thejoker123]

38. I just told my wife last night...

Babe, it's over. She was shocked, she's only ever known me as a fighter these last 20 years.

She tried to make me feel better but I explained that she doesn't realize it's not trump. Trump is just the symptom of a stage IV cancer that has been brought on by 40 years of corporate brainwashing and the rise and dominance of the right wing media complex.

It's over, we lost. They won, in every possible way.

Everyone's focused on Trump, fuck Trump. Let's say we impeach him tomorrow, what then? I'll tell you what then, president Pence and his likely reelection in 2020.

Since Bush nearly destroyed the country, republicans have won at every level, local, state and fed.

Look at the polls today...52% think trump is dishonest. 52%!!!!! Are you kidding me???

And now with the internet and fake news the world is a sea of disinformation, and that feeds right into republican strategy. And it isn't ever going back.

Will we win the presidency again? Sure. But the kind of sea change it would take at the local, state and federal levels is light years away, if it ever happens at all.

On my BEST DAY I figure maybe, maybe there will be a true top to bottom progressive revolution in 20-30 years when we're in a massive Great Depression.

And that's on my best day.

I wish it were different, but I'm nothing if not a realist, and this is just the reality. They've won.

[mrgorth]

49. Agreed

the pendulum will keep swinging. Let's say we win the Pres. and maybe even one of the houses. These elections have shown how backwards we are as a society. So many of us are, in essence, Birchers, racists, etc. We lost education and public broadcasting is up next. I have 18 and 15 year old sons. Why not look into emigrating?

[wordpix]

87. fine, sit back and take care of your kids. We'll do the work

who needs you if you don't want to lift a finger?

Join a group, ffs

[coco22]

89. It ain't over until its over and..

If its over for us its over for them too.

[CousinIT]

10. DeVos, RAMMING through DAPL and shutting down the EAC

In a little-noticed 6-3 vote today, the House Administration Committee voted along party lines to eliminate the Election Assistance Commission, which helps states run elections and is the only federal agency charged with making sure voting machines can’t be hacked. The EAC was created after the disastrous 2000 election in Florida as part of the Help America Vote Act to rectify problems like butterfly ballots and hanging chads. (Republicans have tried to kill the agency for years.) The Committee also voted to eliminate the public-financing system for presidential elections dating back to the 1970s.

Thirty-eight pro-democracy groups, including the NAACP and Common Cause, denounced the vote. “The EAC is the only federal agency which has as its central mission the improvement of election administration, and it undertakes essential activities that no other institution is equipped to address,” says the Brennan Center for Justice.

This move is particularly worrisome given reports that suspected Russian hackers attempted to access voter-registration systems in more than 20 states during the 2016 election. Moreover, the Presidential Commission on Election Administration set up by President Obama in 2014 outlined an “impending crisis” in voting technology and the Brennan Center found that 42 states used voting machines in 2016 that were at least a decade-old and at risk of failing. The EAC was the agency tasked with making sure these voting systems were both modernized and secure.

https://www.thenation.com/article/house-republicans-just-voted-to-eliminate-the-only-federal-agency-that-makes-sure-voting-machines-cant-be-hacked/

[Initech]

84. Sadly I feel like war is the only thing that will get us out of this.

I hope it doesn't come to that but things are getting uglier by the day, and republicans won't rest until liberalism is gone. Until the government is destroyed and dismantled and sold to the highest bidder. That is their agenda. We're now the biggest threat to the stability of the world, and things are going to get worse before they get better.

[coco22]

11. A lot of these issues will overlap ...

with no checks and balances and Trump not knowing what he is signing we are headed for disaster, it is only a matter of time.

[bora13]

12. being watched

Every liberal or progressive idea or theme over the last century has been
targeted by what we have now. Every book, every fear, everything.

The only possible hope in getting out alive is by sending dis-information their way.


Also, I would add, they are like children when if you start showing
interest in what they like, they don't know what to do.

[elmac]

30. yes, we have to get off the high road crapola

and play just as nasty, and dirty, and dangerous as the fascists.

[NCTraveler]

13. We are fucking relentless.

No letting up.

[Dave Starsky]

14. Call your Republican rep and tell him how mad you are.

He has NEVER heard from you before. Encourage all of your friends who feel the same way as you to do the same and get in his fucking face whenever he's in town. You really do have the power to make his life in politics a heaven or a hell.

[LuckyLib]

23. This is my tactic. I am on the phone to Repug reps and senators

to register my disgust each and every day. It takes 5 minutes. I ask: "When is _______________ going to stand up for the country rather than the party? What are you doing about the horror that is Trump?"

At least it makes me feel better.

[bdamomma]

72. We are resisting these filthy repigs

the repigs are afraid of their constituents not wanting to meet with them, calling them names, and not answering their questions, not showing up what is this crap???? They are scared, they are scared of us.


Let's keep on them relentlessly

[tecelote]

15. I agree. It is fucking relentless.

I fully expect a war or a serious civil uprising that will allow our new government to declare martial law within a year.

Maybe a month or two.

The media is treating this like it certainly is odd and unusual. No. This is fucked up.

[Percy Cholmondeley]

42. I agree, they're going to keep this up

They'll continue to destroy anything that protects the citizenry from the predatory rich & powerful until people just say "what the hell?" Then, I believe people will die. And, really, it will invite violence. They've been preparing for this for a long time, hiring lobbyists who double as crooked legislators/governors to get bad laws passed. The "stand your ground" laws that allow unpunished murder. The gun laws that allow everybody to carry a gun around,everywhere. It's really sick, and they're really sick people. The extremely rich, whose hobby it is to ruin our lives. These legislators who brag about their destructive acts against the public, they're only doing what they're hired to do, serving the evil rich. Everyone can see what evil that illiterate bully in the White House is doing. He's not in charge there, it appears the human dumpster Bannon has been installed in control. Does anyone think Trump is capable of thinking up any of the stuff he's doing, or knows who any of these people are he's nominating? I feel pretty guilty about bringing kids into the world the Brothers, et al., are creating. What did my kids, what did we, do to deserve what these people are doing? Bernie Sanders' website has part of the 1980 Libertarian platform on it, when someone very rich (you'll recognize the name) ran for VP. Read that, and you'll see that what these bastards are doing is what these ultra-rich, Nazi-raised monsters want done. Now it's happening right out in the open, because they know they'll never have to face the electorate in an honest election.

[Auggie]

16. Net Neutrality too

[ffr]

17. Money. Vote with your dollars. That's how we get back at them.

Boycott their companies. Hit them with the language they understand. $$$

[2naSalit]

77. It's what I do.

There is very little that I care to buy or need to buy so I don't shop much. I'm not a capitalist so I have managed to avoid playing the money game most of my life.

[Laffy Kat]

18. Nothing to do but leave.

Seriously, we are totally fucked.

[SticksnStones]

19. Our chance at the court will come around again...

Who ever thought Scalia would be gone as early as he did.

A seat is guaranteed for a lifetime but a long lifetime isn't guaranteed.

RBG is tough as nails. She works out every day. She'll outlive them all.

Thomas is getting up in years...so there's that glimmer ~

We stay resolved to win back the Senate in 2018. The incumbent party always has the tougher time, we can do this!

[yeoman6987]

62. How can we win back the senate in 2018. We have 1 seat that may flip. Nevada

They have 10 seats in red states that may flip. Too depressing.

[Kingofalldems]

70. Your mantra about Democrats losing in 2018 is so transparent, yeoman6987.

Again and again:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8608072

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1691757

Maybe you could post an OP with all your concerns?

[world wide wally]

20. Impeach this lunatic NOW!

And then immediately serve warning to Pence that we just won't take any more bullshit.
And that goes for the Senate and Congress too!
We are stronger than we think if we stand together and stay strong.
After all, we are the people.

[Ilsa]

22. Election Assistance Commission to be disbanded under EO. nt

[bdamomma]

31. Al these EO's have to

go through Congress. Don't they?

[Ilsa]

33. No, I don't think so, but I may be wrong. NT

[Chipper Chat]

24. The answer to everything is so simple - it's right before our eyes:

Concentrate 100% on the 2018 midterms. Put all the money there. Registration registration registration. Town hall meetings. Buy TV time. Get help from CNN and MSNBC. Canvas neighborhoods. Fight gerrymandering. Run for local office. Talk to your kids who can go to school and talk to other kids who can maybe influence their parents. Democratic bumper stickers. Yard signs. WIN BACK BOTH HOUSES and do not worry about who is going to run for president in 2020 (It won't make any difference if we don't win back at least one chamber). We need to all get involved.

[OnionPatch]

50. Yes!!

This is what we need to do. All of it. We will drive every voter to the polls (and to get their voter IDs) if we have to. We need to use every court decision we can win and every local or state government we control. Well march to show our numbers and support for each other, we'll call and write and organize, organize, organize for 2018.

We are the majority! Don't forget that. It won't be long before the dictator and his party's horrible policies will begin to fail. As things get worse and worse our majority will only grow. Don't give up!

[Ccarmona]

26. Sadly, We're Down to

Just two branches of Government. The Legislative branch has succumbed and is nothing more than an extension of the Executive Branch.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. Everything, they want everything.

Social Security, Medicare, etc.

[barbtries]

28. hug.

must resist, to the end. despair is here, but do not succumb to it. resist.

[bdamomma]

35. I wonder what will take

for us to retaliate if Bannon's paid protecters come after us peaceful protesters.

[barbtries]

41. i don't know

it's like a bad dream, surreal. they do seem intent on destabilizing and destroying the nation. they have no respect for the law, are trying to eliminate the free press and replace it with propaganda and lies...my understanding is that bannon is a warmonger. my feeling is that trump has an itchy finger and the most destructive trigger in existence. hard to know how far this goes. i try not to speculate a lot, but it's irresistible some times because their statements and their actions are really alarming in their destructiveness.

i have 2 mottoes now: Resist to the end, and I will not be a good german.

in my lifetime this is nothing i ever anticipated or imagined happening in this country.

[secondwind]

32. DON'T GIVE UP!!! A lot of stuff has to go through Congress... RESIST !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cosmocat]

34. It just is getting started ...

This country is going to cash the check it wrote ...

[adigal]

37. I am really sick today, also. So Thursday, I am going to protest at a local Republican's fundraiser

And I"m looking for a protest in NYC this weekend.

I need to get out and be with like-minded people, fighting for something. Not just getting more and more depressed and anxious.

[logosoco]

39. Don't forget a Texan rep. introduced a bill to committee

to abolish the EPA!
Without clean air and water nothing else matters.

[mountain grammy]

44. I'll be 70 on my next birthday..

guess they could fuck up the rest of my life, but not that much left.

My granddaughters on the other hand...... We do have to resist. These people are disgusting. My husband wants me to go to Texas to visit his family and I don't want to go. It's awful. These people are against everything I believe in.

[colorado_ufo]

56. Stop it.

I will be 70 on my next birthday, too, and if I have to fight this - so do YOU!

Don't go to Texas. The stress will shorten your life. You husband can visit his own family. If he is disabled, get a nurse or a friend to go with him.

If you are not eating right and exercising, send me a message, and I have some suggestions for you. You need to live as long as possible and live in a healthy and vibrant and vigorous way.

Sorry, my dear; class has not been dismissed, and you are NOT excused!

[mountain grammy]

74. Thanks, I needed that!

and we do have to fight together, and you're right, he can visit his own family. I was sitting at the bedside of both his parents when they died.. My own mother died without me, I was 2000 miles away and had given birth 4 days before or I'd have been there. I've done my duty with his family and I won't go back and I'm finished with no guilt.

I have been taking care of myself. Went to the March on Jan 21st. Walked two miles every day since the election to prepare and it was one of the best experiences of my life. I'm ready for the next one. One here in Denver this month.

Feeling down and out right now. Seems like we can't win a single battle. Greed and evil are winning. Tomorrow's another day.

[colorado_ufo]

75. You go, girl!

Don't worry - we've all got your back!

So proud of you. Absolutely.

[dchill]

76. +1000

[slumcamper]

46. Piss and moan all you want. I'll join you. We made our bed.

Now we lie sleeplessly in it while the right-wing dismantles a shit-ton of progress. The writing on our wall spells W.E.A.K.

Do you think the sacrifice and spilled blood of the ghosts of the working class on the past century and a half hear you? They DON'T.

Instead of adhering to bedrock principles, the Democratic Party has forged an increasingly dysfunctional and electorally unreliable base of old New Dealists, unionists (though diminished), environmental and social progressives and whatever else (dare I say Wall Street?). The identity of the party is diffuse and overextended, and the party is in internal collision and chaos. The Bernie-Hillary split is merely symptomatic.

We are not coming to terms. This is failure. Ask 50 Democrats "What does it mean to be a Democrat?" and you're likely to get 50 different answers.

So yeah--we "achieved" so much we arrived at this point. And now our tent is so big and broad and fractured into so many pieces that we can't seem to unify ourselves on core principles. CORE PRINCIPLES--that's the key. We've failed to define them and promote them loudly and proudly.

Conservatives, in contrast have clung to core principles, e.g., small government, individual liberty, individual responsibility, etc.--very basic but salient ideas that the masses can relate to.

While we twiddle our thumbs and minds in confused indecision, Trump, the GOP Congress and statehouses will make sure we have to spill another century of blood to reach where we were 3 months ago.

Slumcamper is not a happy camper.

[NBachers]

47. I sure wish more people had voted for Hillary Clinton.

[slumcamper]

48. Buy a lottery ticket. You just posted your 7,777th post.

And actually, I wish we'd fielded a stronger candidate who excited people and gave them a powerful reason to VOTE. Clinton was a good candidate but the campaign strategy and events basically SUCKED. Very flat.

[NBachers]

52. Thanks! If you hadn't called my attention to it, I'd never have noticed.

[JudyM]

63. Same here. Sat next to a woman on a flight today who held her nose to vote for tRump, hoping

for the best, because she strongly disliked H. Said she regrets her vote, but at the time many of her friends did the same after struggling with the decision between 2 disliked candidates. She's a centrist and said she would've voted for almost any other Dem. How sad is that.

[brush]

81. Don't worry about her and the other idiots like her. She helped get trump in and is now sorry

Well, she can kiss my ass as she was stupid enough to fall for the repugs 25 years of character assassination of Hillary, which Sanders

and the Bernie bros chipped in on.

Stay optimist and resist as eveyone has seen now that trump is a disaster. It's been only two and a half weeks and already this admin is

a laughing stock, a debacle: What with the travel ban; Devos, the glaringly incompetent plagiarist is the Education Secretary; a white

supremacist is a top advisor and on the NSC; the trump ok'd Yemen raid was a tragic fool's errand that resulted in some 30 people

dead; a known racist has been nominated to become AG; trump has fallen out with the presidents of Mexico and Australia; the the British

parliament has refuse to let him address the body; Chancellor Angela Merkel had to explain the Geneva Conventions to him; his admin

misspelled British PM Theresa May's name; he's holed up alone in the White House at night as it's pretty apparent that his wife doesn't

want to be with him (DC undoubtedly has great private schools for her son if she really wanted to be with trump). . . God, WTF is next?

What's next is this crap can't go on. This yu-u-u-u-ge bulge of incompetence at the top will topple over of it's own weigh.

Just heard on Progress radio that senior repugs realize it and are discussing ways to get trump out thru either impeachment or the 25th

Amendment:

The Twenty-fifth Amendment (Amendment XXV) to the United States Constitution deals with succession to the Presidency and establishes procedures both for filling a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, as well as responding to Presidential disabilities. It supersedes the ambiguous wording of Article II, Section 1, Clause 6 of the Constitution, which does not expressly state whether the Vice President becomes the President or Acting President if the President dies, resigns, is removed from office or is otherwise unable to discharge the powers of the presidency. The Twenty-fifth Amendment was adopted on February 10, 1967.

It's said to be faster than impeachment and they could slide Pence right in.

And this also just in: Info is starting to emerge of Pence's email problem from when he was gov. of Indiana.

Let's all stay tuned and continue to resist. Things sometime change overnight. Remember we all thought the repugs and their

so-called needed autopsy were dead for 2016.

Resist anyway you can!

[R B Garr]

82. Oh ffs, this is just a tired canard. The same things were said about Gore, and look

what we got. The blame Hillary crowd has only themselves to blame when you look back at the whole Gore debacle. This is exactly how Republicans become entrenched. We would have had Al Gore's environmental policies, but instead we got Bush's war. Now some 14 years later, we are still dealing with his policies of his Iraq invasion. That is how it works. Spouting garbage on airplanes about which Democrat is the most hated only helps Republicans. How sad is that.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

53. Until Trump's poll numbers go down, the Repubs will go along with whatever he wants.

They only care about being re-elected. The dimwits who approve of him will keep him and his policies going and until he pisses them off in bigger numbers.

[herding cats]

78. I'm not meaning to sound rude here, but the R's really, passionately want bad things for us, too.

Look at the legislation they're presenting. They want to break us, and they're using Trump as both a distraction and a rubber stamp.

They're not about to stand up to him, they're too busy ramming their own agenda through. They're in a form of political nirvana right now.

[ProfessorGAC]

91. They're Already At Historic Lows

For a POTUS in office 3 weeks, nobody has ever had a matching of approval/disapproval like this. 42/56%! 56% of people, which is 11% more than on inauguration day. In three weeks, his disapproval numbers went up by 24% relative, and they're still doing whatever they wish. That's because "it" has no policies. These are what the "theoreticians" in Congress have always wanted to do. The approval numbers of the buffoon in the WH has no impact on their actions.

[zentrum]

55. That is exactly how

...they want you to feel.

These overt and covert attacks on every part of the system are carefully orchestrated to overwhelm you with the destruction of the mechanisms of democracy.

Bannon has written about this deliberate set of actions.

Grover Norquist was trying to do this when he said he wanted to shrink government down to a size you could drown it in a bathtub.

They have been aiming at this since Reagan: A Xtain-right corporate friendly tsarist executive kind of state that takes the world's resources, exploits labor and controls a docile and disempowered population; no taxes, no services. But lots of patriotism and circuses.

We need to resist. To rebuild from the ground up. To take over local elected offices. And say "Hell no."

[calimary]

57. But hey, Jill Stein is there to tell us it's all our fault!

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I know how you feel, my friend. Discouraging. And the people we can't reach... I went onto Scott Baio's Twitter page regarding a story about him

http://www.mediaite.com/online/scott-baio-tried-trolling-starbucks-on-twitter-it-didnt-go-well-for-him/

The tweets on there... HOLY CANNOLI!!! They exist. The trump-humpers are truly there. And they see nothing wrong with their so-called pResident (or president*, as Charlie P. Pierce at Esquire calls him) or what he's doing, or what he's done, or what he's said, or how much he's lied, or ANYTHING. They see nothing at all wrong with any of it. Seriously. After I skimmed down that Twitter page, I felt like I wanted to shake myself awake - surely this had to be some sort of bad dream.

It's just astounding to me, wrapping my brain around this. These folks really seem to have bought the whole package. Stunning that they believe this shit, and support it so adamantly. Welcome to Bizarro World.

On edit - I just saw Sam Seder on with Joy Reid (who's subbing for Chris Hayes on MSNBC this week) shaking his head with discouragement, about the same thing. "There's no way to convince these people," he said, pointing out that whatever trump says, even if it's so easily proven to be a lie, they'll believe. Rock solid, too. Seder gave the example of trump's statement about the murder rate in this country which he said was the highest in at least four decades. WRONG! That's simply not true. That is FALSE. That is a LIE. It just so happens that the murder rate these days is at closer to an all-time low. But trump says something different and the deplorables out there just swallow it whole, without even bothering to chew.

Seder lamented that there's no way to reach these people. You CANNOT convince them. But THEN (yikes!), Seder said - in such a case, the only thing you can do about those people is to keep them OUT of power. And his next sentence was - "and, well, we failed that test."

So, Stinky, you're FAR from alone in the way you're feeling, these days. FAR from alone.

[VOX]

58. To the KGOP & alt-right, every goddamn day must be like Christmas morning.

"I got a fuck-you to the free press!"
I got a Ed. boss who knows shit about public schools!"
"Ohhh, I got a right-wing SCOTUS judge!"

[Qanisqineq]

60. I feel the same way n/t

[Tatiana]

61. It's really going to take a revolution. Like a big one.

Like work stoppages, massive protests every weekend, like... we're living in something close to a banana republic and we need to start doing the things that people in banana republics do to get rid of corrupt dictators and thugs.

We also have to begin by taking back the party and completing at every level (from municipal to state-wide), everywhere.

Even then, we are in for at least 4 years of hell.

But, we can't give up. I do believe in Karma.

[Initech]

90. If we last another four years.

The GOP just voted to gut the committee governing fair elections. This is getting really fucking scary. I think it's going to come to war but I hope not. There's more of us than there are of them.

[Jamaal510]

73. This is what

his base voted for, and they're getting it. That's why I don't believe there are that many people yet who voted for him and now regret it. He has mostly gone after those of us who typically don't vote GOP.

[SoCalDem]

79. Sadly, it is nothing new.

Democrats have been trying to do too much for too many, for too long, while republicans have had a narrow, meanspirited agenda that they relentlessly have pursued at the local levels as they worked their way into higher offices...all across the country.

They got their "biggie" issue when they consolidated the south against civil rights, and their cancerous agenda spread throughout the midwest (blighted farmlands/small towns), and into the rust belt (blighted manufacturing towns).. They learned that when you control the state legislatures and are willing to sabotage the national government, you can "win".

Democrats have always been BIG ideas people and unfortunately for us, that translated into the presidency every 4 years, and not much else inbetween.
I had so hoped that the GW experience would have changed things for us, and the Trumpster fire we are in may be our last wake up call..

[R B Garr]

83. Looking back at Bush's war started some 14 years ago, it's easy to see why

you have to keep the GOP from getting power, but it's too late for this reflection now on many levels. Bush's Iraq policies have become a permanent part of our foreign policy and have affected our candidates abilities to rise above the daily realities of what that brought.

You have Bush's 14-year-old Iraq war and now Trump's travel ban that are compounding what will be two decades of Republican policy, when we could have had Al Gore and his environmental policies being the forefront of those discussions. Obama made some headway, but now Trump is going right back to the fear tactics and attacking even more. Bush should have been a shining example of how a quick eight years of GOP agenda should not be allowed to become entrenched, but it's too late for much of this reflection. What a shame. In another few years, you are right, it will be a generation lost to those poor choices of demonizing Democrats to no good end.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

93. Fascist takeover playbook.

I don't know what to do either.

[JMCoast]

95. Its tough

to not despair over this nightmare but we have to feel enlightened about the protests going on, the phone calls to congress, etc..We can't give up. Dems have been so timid over the years. The righties have always kept their eye on the prize. It's a long haul but this man will do something, something so hideous and outside the norm that even his fellow repubs will want him out. At least that's my hope. It springs eternal right?