Right Fucking Now. Elizabeth Warren for President 2016......

[NYC_SKP]

Plan ahead. Nobody else comes close. Elizabeth Warren: "There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own"

[font size=2]"You built a factory out there? Good for you... But I want to be clear:

you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for;

you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate;

you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for."

"You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did."[/font size]



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20110042-503544.html

[font size=4]I declare my support for Elizabeth Warren for President 2016 right fucking now.

http://elizabethwarren.com/?splash=1 [/font size]



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[GarroHorus]

1. I ADORE Elizabeth Warren, but she cannot win a national election.

I see no way for her to win nationally.

In fact, after 2012 I suspect neither party will be nominating a candidate from Massachusetts for a very long time.

[AJTheMan]

3. That's a very suspect thing to say.

A lot of people have been saying Deval Patrick or Elizabeth Warren....

[GarroHorus]

8. Either would be a great president, neither is electable, IMO. n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

30. Neither FDR nor Reagan were electable

And then they were.

Times change.

[NYC_SKP]

5. Hey, a secret muslin black dude born in Africa named Obama won in 2008..... *sarcasm*

Are you suggesting that a woman from Mass doesn't have a chance?

JURORS: My subject line is

[GarroHorus]

9. It's mostly the Massachusetts thing.

The rightwing has made it too much of a negative for too long, regardless of how phony their charges about Massachusetts are.

[MannyGoldstein]

33. Massachusetts politics is extremely genteel

People are generally very nice to one-another here. In most other parts of the country, politics is blood sport.

So when a Bay State politician is generally unprepared to run against, say, a Southerner. Our politicians are usually flummoxed by a street fight and get the crap beat out of them.

I believe that Ms. Warren is different. Looking at how she's gone after scoundrels like Timmy Geithner:

Patrick McHenry:

and the Morning Joke crowd:

I take her at her word that she'll leave blood and teeth on the floor. And she will win.

Perhaps it's because she wasn't born and raised in MA.

[Brigid]

50. Warren is a tough, old-school Midwesterner.

That's what makes her different. I wish I could vote for her in November. I look forward to voting for her for President -- in 2016, I hope.

[Flying Squirrel]

39. Then why is their candidate a former Governor from Massachusetts? n/t

[GarroHorus]

43. That's why I think after 2012, it will be many many years before another candidate from MA...

is nominated from either party.

[grahamhgreen]

18. EPIC FAIL. Same was said about Obama.

[Enrique]

19. oh pshaw

all these silly rules about who can't win.

[Scootaloo]

22. Nobody wins anything without support, Garro

If you adore her, show support, push for your representatives to be more like her. Make it known that you support and endorse her and her positions and rhetoric. That's one good way to get things to change from the bottom up.

[aaaaaa5a]

25. Agreed.

Regional prejudice is alive and well in this country.

[Motown_Johnny]

31. I see no way for her to lose. She is an extraordinary person

and so many people are still so hungry for a first female president that she has an automatic advantage from the outset.



Rmoney isn't really from MA anyways. I don't think that counts.





Oh, and I know that she could lose, that was an exaggeration.

[AJTheMan]

2. Yes, Elizabeth Warren is the best.

She represents a real chance for Democrats to win the presidency.

[ozone_man]

4. For 2016

After the next economic collapse, the country will be ready for someone who speaks truth to power, another FDR, a female version.

[MrSlayer]

6. I'd rather get her in the Senate first.

One step at a time.

[AJTheMan]

7. Get her in the Senate, let her vote for four years, and get her in the White House!

[NYC_SKP]

12. Do you know the history of JFK as regards age and experience?

We don't really have time to vet people, we have to trust based on their actions.

Yes, duh, she has to be a senator first, thus the 2016 qualifier.

I worry that a couple responders didn't catch the "2016 distinction from 2012.

[coalition_unwilling]

10. K&R! - n/t

[dkf]

11. If that happened I would get on my knees and beg Hillary Clinton to run.

Or start a drive for a 3rd term for Bill.

Oh man I really miss them.

[NYC_SKP]

13. Warren might be willing to consider Hillary as a running mate.

I don't think it would happen, and I don't think Hillary wants to run, but I would support that if it would help us win.

[dkf]

15. Ugh.

[Left Coast2020]

14. How could you put someone in who signed Senator Gramms....

...deregulation of banks legislation? Or someone who deregulated the airwaves with the Communications Act? Not me. He gave us a good economy and surplus, but F'd up all the radio and TV stations. THis is why only 6 conglomerates own every fucking station that spews out this R-W filth. Air America would still be on if he hadn't signed that legislation. I'll never forgive him for that.

[Motown_Johnny]

32. You would need a constitutional amendment for a 3rd term for Bill

and Snipergate disqualified Hillary as Commander In Chief.



The Clinton era is over, get used to it.

[white_wolf]

48. Really? Clinton over Warren?! Wow, you aren't even bothering to hide your 3rd Way corporatism.

I don't see how anyone could support right-wingers like the Clintons over Warren.

[dkf]

52. You've scared me into that position.

Reading posts like yours turned me into a moderate as I pondered what would happen if ideas like yours were the prevailing ones. That's when I realized I don't think it would work. What we have isn't perfect, but it produces innovations that drive our economy. I don't see how that happens when there isn't the ability to make a profit.

[rhett o rick]

16. Unless we fix the corrupt election system, it wont matter who we run. nm

[Drunken Irishman]

17. It's all moot if she doesn't win her election this November.

[NYC_SKP]

36. Thinking far ahead, I've contributed to her campaign...

...and I'm in California.

[TeamPooka]

20. I'd vote for her

in any election if I could but I'm in Cali.

[inna]

21. Shoot! I thought she announced her candidacy, or somethin'!

K&R anyway

[JDPriestly]

23. I'm with you. Warren for 2016.

[aaaaaa5a]

24. We may love Warren here.

But the fact that she is having this much relative difficulty in a state like MA, doesn't bode well for National office.

[MannyGoldstein]

34. Four months out and she's tied with the incumbent

who was, until recently, polling as the most popular politician in the Commonwealth. I think that's pretty awesome.

And given that:

1. the debates have not started yet, in which she'll surely incinerate Scotty, and
2. Democrats have not really started spotlighting Brown's appalling voting record

I think Ms. Warren is in the catbird seat and will win by a wide margin. I guess we'll find out in November!

[aaaaaa5a]

37. I hope you are right! nt

[Tx4obama]

26. We first must see her voting record and hear her positions on all of the issues n/t

[msongs]

27. well obama's "position on all the issues" wasn't that relevant in the end was it? nt

[cbrer]

28. A - Fucking - men

Best candidate in the field

[BeyondGeography]

29. Has she won her first election yet?

Let's hope she does. I agree with this article; pretty slim choices to succeed Barack as party leader:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/06/elizabeth-warren-for-president-democrats-barren-2016-bench/258772/

If Warren loses this fall, we might have to hope that Hillary's up for a run in 2016.

[Nye Bevan]

35. If she beats Scott Brown, she will be a clear front-runner in 2016, along with the likes

of Andrew Cuomo.

If she loses to Scott Brown, then forget it.

[hwmnbn]

38. K & BIG FUCKIN' R!!

[graywarrior]

40. No, we need her here in MA

[Bake]

41. I am impressed with Warren, but let's see if she can win the Senate seat first ...

So far, she's never run for, much less been elected to ANY office, and you want her to run for President?

Get real.

Bake

[suffragette]

42. That would be wonderful

K&R

[Zorra]

44. I'm in. nt

[NYC_SKP]

45. Thanks, Zorra,

It's remarkable to read some of the comments upthread that people seem to think there's even time to wait for a great candidate to be vetted through one or two additional four-year cycles!

I don't have that kind of time. Do you?

[Zorra]

49. No, NYC_SKP,

we definitely don't have that kind of time.

A candidate can have a thirty year career as a federal legislator, and not even come close to having the comprehensive, necessary qualities for Executive leadership that Elizabeth possesses.

I've donated to her 4 times, and will do so again shortly.

[Tarheel_Dem]

46. I like Elizabeth, but we'll have to see her Senate voting record to see if she is truly.....

"The Great Liberal Hope" that some people believe she is. She'll soon find out that she has no wiggle room for compromise, or she'll be called a "caver". She'll also find out how quickly fans become enemies once she's elected. She'll have to pacify the far left, while trying not to alienate moderates. It's not as simple as it sounds. And while I'm elated that she's caught up to Brown, it's Teddy's old seat, ferchrissakes. The president is running ahead of Rmoney by double digits, while she has struggled. What's that about?

If she's the nominee, she has certainly has my vote, but I'd like to see if Cuomo gets in.

[NYC_SKP]

47. Warren coming up on the Rachel Maddow Show in the next few minutes (6:25 Pacific Time). eom

[SoutherDem]

51. I would vote for her. n/t

[cpwm17]

53. Elizabeth Warren is all in with the war mongers.

That's a deal breaker for me. Nothing is more important than world peace.

She sucks up to AIPAC, lies about Iran, and opposes Palestinian rights.

There's almost no mention about any national security / foreign policy that would benefit the US at her web site:
http://elizabethwarren.com/issues/national-security-foreign-policy

Here's Max Blumenthal's take:
http://maxblumenthal.com/2012/03/progressive-hero-elizabeth-warren-tows-aipacs-pro-war-line/

[Arkana]

54. Let's let her win the MA Senate race first.

Her opponent is a skilled-enough flim-flam artist that that is not a certainty.

[Honeycombe8]

55. You must be a yankee. No one in the country knows who she is, or cares. She's a nobody. And not a

and she's not a politician, either.

Dreams are just that....dreams.

Spend your time backing someone who has a chance.

[NYC_SKP]

57. Hahahahahhahahahahahaha and Obama couldn't win either.

Who has a chance, in your opinion?

[WI_DEM]

56. No, she should serve her term in the Senate and be a dependable US Senator