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pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 02:16 PM Feb 2017

CNN: Silencing Elizabeth Warren backfires on GOP.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/elizabeth-warren-silenced/

Washington (CNN)The Senate has silenced Elizabeth Warren.

And by doing so, majority Republicans just handed the liberal firebrand a megaphone -- further elevating President Donald Trump's fiercest and most prominent critic in the Senate and turning her into a Democratic hero.

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"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted," the Kentucky Republican said on the Senate floor, delivering an instantly classic line -- the kind liberals imagine being replayed ad nauseum in TV ads in a future presidential campaign.

It couldn't have come at a better time for Warren, who is up for re-election in 2018. On Tuesday, she announced she hired an aide who is an expert on national security, a move that could help burnish her expertise in that area, as well as the publication of a new book, which will become available in April.

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CNN: Silencing Elizabeth Warren backfires on GOP. (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2017 OP
The don't care Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #1
Who cares that they don't care? BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #2
Maybe not DownriverDem Feb 2017 #13
+1 progressoid Feb 2017 #44
That's right, they don't care n/t hibbing Feb 2017 #28
And her male colleagues read the letter and weren't shut down. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #3
A tattle-tale sign of 2naSalit Feb 2017 #4
Come out swinging each and every day - HELL YEAH !!! groundloop Feb 2017 #5
"[L]et's return the favor ten-fold." Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #33
I saw it more as a form of Hayabusa Feb 2017 #54
well, they weren't uppity women! lastlib Feb 2017 #45
Udall is my Senator! burrowowl Feb 2017 #46
Good Hekate Feb 2017 #6
McConnell tried to silence two women. blue neen Feb 2017 #7
Almost 8 million views now...lol titaniumsalute Feb 2017 #8
That fucking asshole couldn't give her a better compliment. DinahMoeHum Feb 2017 #9
Thank you, mitch! volstork Feb 2017 #10
I had to heart you just for coining MontanaMama Feb 2017 #30
Thanks, Mama! volstork Feb 2017 #41
Exactly keepthemhonestO Feb 2017 #11
His chin pouch has gotten almost as big as tRumps ego. Musta smacked him in the head, he's Augiedog Feb 2017 #12
Chin pouch. 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #56
Wish I could claim originality but I read it here on DU a few weeks ago and it stuck in my head Augiedog Feb 2017 #57
Well, kudos to whoever thought of it. 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #59
Yes... jaxind Feb 2017 #14
KNR Lucinda Feb 2017 #15
hmm - new book? National Security aide? NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #16
I hear that Bannon and Flynn come bigly recommended. keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #21
I hope she decides to, she would wipe the floor with Trump. nt cstanleytech Feb 2017 #32
Any Dems still going to vote to confirm Sessions? maxrandb Feb 2017 #17
I called Jon Tester today - again. MontanaMama Feb 2017 #31
EVERY Democratic Senator and Representative ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #35
Same here DFW Feb 2017 #49
You're correct, DFW. Thanks for the nudge. MontanaMama Feb 2017 #60
Manchin did Ruby the Liberal Feb 2017 #38
Bernie Sanders posted this on his page. japple Feb 2017 #18
interesting ... shireen Feb 2017 #19
Maybe it was at another meeting. I read that he was at the debate with Cruz pnwmom Feb 2017 #24
Good statement from Sen. Sanders. klook Feb 2017 #20
Repubs whine about rules after they change rules to pass Trump's nominees. keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #22
Just called Manchin's office MadCrow Feb 2017 #23
Fuckin bastard uponit7771 Feb 2017 #25
But of course he is.... Raster Feb 2017 #26
Let him have it. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #36
As a loyal WV Democrat MadCrow Feb 2017 #40
As much as I would like him primaried ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #43
When was the last time the Senate "silenced" someone? fiorello Feb 2017 #27
Liz--The Lioness of the Senate. panader0 Feb 2017 #29
Boooom! How the hell could it not.. these are the silencers.. who among Cha Feb 2017 #34
By this rule, Senators can't impugn other senators nominated for Cabinet positions ? stuffmatters Feb 2017 #37
Joe Scum thinks McConnell did it to help Warren Ilsa Feb 2017 #39
No - they won. They shut her down and confirmed Sessions. electron_blue Feb 2017 #42
McConnell, by his action, admits King's letter is real and damaging. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #47
I found it interesting to learn where Rule 19 came from. Beartracks Feb 2017 #48
Warren opposed Sessions confirmation because she wanted Sessions to remain in the US Senate nt nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #50
She opposed him because he has an awful record and would make a terrible A.G. pnwmom Feb 2017 #52
Stephen Colbert barbtries Feb 2017 #51
McConnell Scarsdale Feb 2017 #53
This was a stupid move by the turtleman Gothmog Feb 2017 #55
I sure hope so. We'll have to see what happens in the long run. nt pnwmom Feb 2017 #58

2naSalit

(86,897 posts)
4. A tattle-tale sign of
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 02:35 PM
Feb 2017

overt misogyny. I saw a thread, haven't read it yet, that claims Schumer has spoken out against the silencing. I hope this is the last straw for Dems to come out swinging each and every day.

groundloop

(11,530 posts)
5. Come out swinging each and every day - HELL YEAH !!!
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:06 PM
Feb 2017

We might currently be outnumbered in the House, we might currently be outnumbered in the Senate, an an illegitimate repuke might currently be occupying the White House - but we MUST NOT make it easier for them to pass right wing agenda by staying silent and not fighting. Let's never forget how they treated President Obama and let's return the favor ten-fold.




keepthemhonestO

(252 posts)
11. Exactly
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:30 PM
Feb 2017

I want them out of office. All of them that voted against her. They blocked her from reading but then later allowed two men. I want them all out of office but definitely McConnell. He is going.

Augiedog

(2,549 posts)
12. His chin pouch has gotten almost as big as tRumps ego. Musta smacked him in the head, he's
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 03:30 PM
Feb 2017

acting so stupid as to do this to Senator Warren. Maybe he should wear a helmet to protect himself and those nearby.

3catwoman3

(24,088 posts)
56. Chin pouch.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:21 AM
Feb 2017

Thanks. I've been wondering what would be the best term for that "thing" hanging there under his weak chin. Too voluminous to be called a turkey wattle.

I shall be making use of this.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
14. Yes...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:01 PM
Feb 2017

Yes, unfortunately it doesn't count as shaming because neither McConnell nor the rethuglican base feel ashamed! We are the only ones that feel it!

keithbvadu2

(37,008 posts)
21. I hear that Bannon and Flynn come bigly recommended.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 05:01 PM
Feb 2017

I hear that Bannon and Flynn come bigly recommended.

MontanaMama

(23,366 posts)
31. I called Jon Tester today - again.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 07:22 PM
Feb 2017

He'd better not. It's a deal breaker for me and I told them so. LEAD on this issue dammit. I'm withholding my donation envelope until I see what he does.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
35. EVERY Democratic Senator and Representative ...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 07:48 PM
Feb 2017

... need not only to hold their ground, but to actively oppose this crisis-laden regime. If they do not, we have to act swiftly and harshly to ensure they know the consequences of their actions. This sends a message to both them and the regime that the they have a fight on their hands.

Resist!

DFW

(54,477 posts)
49. Same here
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:09 AM
Feb 2017

I have supported him in the past, as the alternative was always worse, but if he votes for Sessions, he has become the alternative.

MontanaMama

(23,366 posts)
60. You're correct, DFW. Thanks for the nudge.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:05 PM
Feb 2017

If these yahoos do not vote NO on the worst of the worst appointees, it is a deal breaker for me. No question. As you so aptly put it, they are the alternative.

It seems that lazy Dem Reps and Senators like to instill fear in constituents pressuring us to keep them in office because of the scary alternatives that could take their place...while there's a grain of truth to that, in the end, its BS. If they are not representing our best interest, they are damaged goods and they need to go. I'm done being politely patient. Our country and very lives are at stake.

japple

(9,847 posts)
18. Bernie Sanders posted this on his page.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:22 PM
Feb 2017
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/

"It is unconscionable that Republican Leader Mitch McConnell silenced Sen. Elizabeth Warren because she read a letter from one of the great civil rights leaders, Coretta Scott King, in opposition to Jeff Sessions. When I read the same letter, no one prevented me from speaking. And when I asked to enter the entire text into the record, nobody objected. Sen. McConnell owes Sen. Warren an apology and of course she should participate in this important debate. In the U.S. Senate, you don’t ban a senator from engaging in debate. Donald Trump and Republicans are quickly moving us in an un-American and authoritarian direction. This cannot be allowed to take place in the Senate."

shireen

(8,333 posts)
19. interesting ...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:57 PM
Feb 2017

was it before or after Warren's speech?

I guess McConnell was taking a nap when Bernie was on the floor.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
24. Maybe it was at another meeting. I read that he was at the debate with Cruz
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 05:12 PM
Feb 2017

when they had the vote to silence Warren.

klook

(12,174 posts)
20. Good statement from Sen. Sanders.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 04:58 PM
Feb 2017

Glad he is supporting his brilliant and effective colleague in the wake of this travesty.

MadCrow

(155 posts)
40. As a loyal WV Democrat
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 08:48 PM
Feb 2017

I know that there is a movement afoot to find someone to challenge him in this state. He is not well liked by the Dems I know. I have been to the WV Democratic Convention in both 2012 and 2016. WV went for Bernie in the primaries. I'm retired and in my county most of the Dem. Leadership is of my generation. We need new blood and the only ones really enthused are the young Bernie supporters. I can include my own grandchildren in that group. As Democrats we need to bury the hatchet and concentrate on the 2018 election. I'm not sure when Manchin comes up for reelection, but he needs to be primaried when he does. Hopefully, the discouraged and disenchanted people of my state, not necessarily deplorable, will wake up and realize what a disaster Trump is and go back to their historical Democratic roots.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
43. As much as I would like him primaried ...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 09:41 PM
Feb 2017

... I would much rather have an immediate consequence for his actions. Actions louder than words and all that. Does your system have an option for recall?

fiorello

(182 posts)
27. When was the last time the Senate "silenced" someone?
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 05:55 PM
Feb 2017

I see that the "silencing" rule was put in in 1902 after a fistfight. But I could not find any actual silencing. The famous one, from a different rule, was related to the "gag rule" back in the days of slavery-it was made, and it was used, against John Quincy Adams , to prevent him from reading letters about the horrors of slavery. Very appropriate that today another senator from Massachusetts is taking up the call against racism.

Cha

(297,935 posts)
34. Boooom! How the hell could it not.. these are the silencers.. who among
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

the gop didn't vote to Silence Elizabeth?

Look at all the gop women who did..




Thank you for this, pnwmom~

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
37. By this rule, Senators can't impugn other senators nominated for Cabinet positions ?
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 08:12 PM
Feb 2017

It seems to me that McConnell and other Republicans, in addition to the hyper repugnance of their actions ...especially as this Republican authoritarian suppression happened during hearings for the chief defender of civil rights... also completely misused this
Rule.

How could it possibly apply to senators being vetted and opposed for (extra senatorial) cabinet positions? If it did, that would mean that no senator could impugn (criticize) another senator during his nomination process for any job outside the Senate.
McConnell really misapplied this old and only-used -once before rule to silence Warren and her legitimate attacks upon Sessions' dire
history of serial anti civil rights agenda.

This is a rule I presume that was passed to keep some level of civility among senators in their body. But once Sessions accepted the nomination for AG, he stepped outside of any "protections" against factual criticism or exposure by fellow senators.

I hope Warren takes this to the mat...perhaps charging Mcconnell with some kind of violation of her own civil rights. The more this story stays in the news, the better exposure for all Repub voters to see their sickeningly oppressive senators in action.

Ilsa

(61,710 posts)
39. Joe Scum thinks McConnell did it to help Warren
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 08:45 PM
Feb 2017

Win the Dem ticket in 2020. McC thinks trump is a shoe-in against her.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
52. She opposed him because he has an awful record and would make a terrible A.G.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 07:15 AM
Feb 2017

If she could choose, I'm sure she'd like him to retire. But he can do less damage as one out of 100 Senators than as Attorney General.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
53. McConnell
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 08:18 AM
Feb 2017

Imagine what he would do if his wife, Elaine Choo(?) got this treatment by her colleagues in the Labor Dept? Mitch would really get his knickers in a twist. The GOP should remember what happened to Eric Cantor. He thought he was bullet proof, then he was voted OUT of office!! Lost his do-nothing job, with all those perks. Who will be next, I wonder?

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