Paul Ryan says, new corporate tax cuts will be made PERMANENT!

[Equinox Moon]

This was his declaration during a PBS news interview (2.8.2017). He was chatting away that they are working hard on the bills they plan to push through this year, highlighting they are making the new legislation's PERMANENT. That's right. They are making up some language in the bills so that their agenda can NEVER be overturned. That is their plan anyway.

If they do this with our voting rights, we will have republican rule installed. This is my fear. Elections and voting is the only way to get back some balance with Democrats in power too. I just hope we are not too late.

[Turbineguy]

1. Easy

do away with elections.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. An electorate that is healthy (healthcare), comfortable (high paying jobs)

are able to vote and pay attention to what the criminals are doing.

These bills are designed to take what little the average person has and give it to the oligarchs.

Our Medicare and Social Security are next, they will be taken and soon. What YOU and ME will do about that, is what I am wondering.

[JHan]

3. wtf

[Vinca]

4. Guess this means the corporations who currently pay no tax will be getting big checks from the ATM.

AMERICAN TAXPAYER MONEY.

[BlueCaliDem]

5. And in return, they'll tax poor Americans who don't pay taxes now because there's nothing to tax.

Raise taxes on everyone else except corporations and millionaires and billionaires. It's the neo-Republican way!

[Wounded Bear]

6. It's bullshit, of course....

Tax laws, whether they have sunset clauses or not, are subject to the next budget negotiation.

Laws can be rescinded and repealed. They are "repealing" Obamacare, we can repeal their bogus tax laws.

They are not enshrining them in the Constitution for fuck's sake.

[Ms. Toad]

10. You beat me to it.

The ACA was written in a way that was intended to be permanent, as well. So much for that idea.

[CrispyQ]

30. It just as well be permanent.

They control 33 state legislatures & just did this. Voter disenfranchisement - the aspect of 'voter fraud' that the media never reports on.

House Republicans Just Voted to Eliminate the Only Federal Agency That Makes Sure Voting Machines Can’t Be Hacked
Republicans would make it easier to steal an election by killing the Election Assistance Commission.

https://www.thenation.com/article/house-republicans-just-voted-to-eliminate-the-only-federal-agency-that-makes-sure-voting-machines-cant-be-hacked/

In a little-noticed 6-3 vote today, the House Administration Committee voted along party lines to eliminate the Election Assistance Commission, which helps states run elections and is the only federal agency charged with making sure voting machines can’t be hacked. The EAC was created after the disastrous 2000 election in Florida as part of the Help America Vote Act to rectify problems like butterfly ballots and hanging chads. (Republicans have tried to kill the agency for years.) The Committee also voted to eliminate the public-financing system for presidential elections dating back to the 1970s.

“It is my firm belief that the EAC has outlived its usefulness and purpose,” said Committee chair Gregg Harper (R-MS), explaining why his bill transfers the EAC’s authority to the Federal Election Commission.

Thirty-eight pro-democracy groups, including the NAACP and Common Cause, denounced the vote. “The EAC is the only federal agency which has as its central mission the improvement of election administration, and it undertakes essential activities that no other institution is equipped to address,” says the Brennan Center for Justice.

This move is particularly worrisome given reports that suspected Russian hackers attempted to access voter-registration systems in more than 20 states during the 2016 election. Moreover, the Presidential Commission on Election Administration set up by President Obama in 2014 outlined an “impending crisis” in voting technology and the Brennan Center found that 42 states used voting machines in 2016 that were at least a decade-old and at risk of failing. The EAC was the agency tasked with making sure these voting systems were both modernized and secure.

[okieinpain]

7. then why didn't dems do this when they had all the power.

is that even possible, even the constitution can be changed it takes a act of god but it can be changed. so how can they make a tax law permanent.

[Equinox Moon]

12. If (and when) Dems are back in the majority,

I hope the lessons learned will be used against repubs.

[okieinpain]

20. no kidding. n/t.

[dawg]

8. I think Bat Boy just means that ...

they won't be written with a scheduled expiration date like the Bush tax cuts.

[LaydeeBug]

9. They can TRY, and they can LIE, but can be just as easily undone.

Permanent my Royal Irish Ass.

[KPN]

11. Don't you get it? If you're whole life isn't geared toward

making money -- the maximum amount you can -- then you're an irresponsible deadbeat and society doesn't owe you a thing. You as an individual have that freedom of choice. Oh, unless you're gay, lesbian, a woman, African-American, etc., etc., in which case, by nature, you are a lesser anyway and you don't have that freedom.

[Equinox Moon]

13. Plus...

"If you really think the environment is less important than the economy, try holding your breath while you count your money."

~~ Dr. Guy McPherson

[okieinpain]

21. damn how true. n/t.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. meh. nothing is not overturnable. even the constitution

else i still wouldn't be able to vote, and a lot of people would be counted as 3/5th a person.

[Equinox Moon]

15. I have ZERO doubt they are working on legislation to rig

voting in their favor. Maybe a federal law regarding voter ID?

This is going to be a very rough few years.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. it's going to be awful. it is already awful if you are muslim or a refugee.

[Equinox Moon]

17. Hugs

[Initech]

18. God damn them! They really don't care at all.

They talk about jobs, but all the wealth goes to the people who already have too much and don't need any more. This is fucking disgusting. These people are addicted to wealth and power. It's time to flush them out. Forget "drain the swamp", let's "flush the turds".

[Equinox Moon]

23. This expresses well...

[GoCubsGo]

19. He's so full of shit, I can smell him from here.

I am 500 miles away from that lying sack of crap.

They really do think we are all that stupid.

[spanone]

22. good luck with that paulie

[Tommy Generico]

24. May the Pugs will pass something ...

... but nothing is "permanent".

[teezy]

25. Americans need to storm the Capitol building.

In the thousands. And refuse to leave.

[Trust Buster]

26. Filibuster Filibuster Filibuster

[drray23]

27. No law is permanent.

Unless we enshrine it in the constitution. It can always be overturned. What he probably meant is that there wont be a sundown provision to make it expire like the previous ones.

[Mariana]

37. Even Amendments aren't necessarily permanent

in the way normal people use the word. Mr. Ryan is full of shit.

[avebury]

28. If they pay not taxes then they should not expect

to receive help from the Federal Government when and if the masses turn against them. Corporations have not right to demand any services or protection from the Federal Government if they have not paid for them.

[avebury]

29. If the Republicans pass any laws for protecting religious rights

then people who are anti-war should not have to pay money into the Federal Government military budget. I don't might helping the veterans but I have no interest in having to help pay for the Trump and the Republican Party's war games.

[Equinox Moon]

31. Well... for that matter...

I want a law that says we can reject republicans from our businesses due to the harm they have caused.

[logosoco]

32. Anyone who says "permanent" and says something cannot be changed

does not understand life itself.

[Sgent]

33. That just means

the changes will be permanent instead of temporary. For instance, some of the Bush tax cuts were temporary, for example the estate tax repeal expired in 2010, with the tax reverting to its prior level. This was used as a scoring device so it wouldn't show deficits ballooning due to their cuts.

The new cuts are supposed to be revenue neutral (on the corporate income tax side), but congress can still change it in the future.

[alarimer]

34. That is not possible.

There no such thing as a law that can't be overturned. Fucking assholes.

[n2doc]

35. I'm guessing that means they think they have 60 votes in the senate

Otherwise they can only use reconciliation and get 10 years.

As noted above, there are no permanent laws. The hardest ones to overturn are Constitutional Amendments, but those have been nullified by later Amendments.

[Equinox Moon]

38. Your response makes sense.

[Mariana]

36. "Permanent" is legislator-speak

just means there is no expiration date written into the bill.