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kentuck

(111,094 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:29 AM Feb 2017

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what "incompetence" looks like.

Three weeks in and this Administration is a total failure.

They tried a military mission in Yemen and it failed.

They said they were going to bring the country together and they have failed.

They took their case to the courts and they failed.

They have continued to lie at every turn.

Ready! Fire! Aim!

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Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what "incompetence" looks like. (Original Post) kentuck Feb 2017 OP
The name Trump and Failure are Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #1
Mexico to pay for wall, oops. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #2
"Guy who's gonna pay for the wall says what?" Initech Feb 2017 #21
heart for being so damn funny Initech :) Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #40
I stole that one from last week's SNL! Initech Feb 2017 #41
Still Funny. EOM WiffenPoof Feb 2017 #44
Flynn never talked to Russia about sanctions. oops Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #3
Message to #45 ... In_The_Wind Feb 2017 #4
Except for his cabinet picks n2doc Feb 2017 #5
when even your wins are fails. DeVos is loathed by many normal Republicans. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #14
Can't GIVE away his daughter's overpriced, imported, unoriginal, "fashions"! Loser! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #6
Don't forget Trump got into a fight with the President of France on the phone Botany Feb 2017 #7
And he hung up on the Australian Prime Minister. catbyte Feb 2017 #51
Trumpers should chant: Show me what incompetence looks like IronLionZion Feb 2017 #8
You are wrong Perseus Feb 2017 #9
Can they be "evil" and incompetent? kentuck Feb 2017 #10
Yes they cluld, but they are not. Perseus Feb 2017 #13
Open your eyes. trump himself is undeniably incompetent. That's obvious. Some others... brush Feb 2017 #17
They have you looking somewhere else, and that is the plan Perseus Feb 2017 #25
Take your own advise. Don't underestimate America and the American people. We are not... brush Feb 2017 #32
That's 42% of the 50-some percent that voted. kentuck Feb 2017 #33
Absolutely. So trump voters make up what, maybe 25%? IMO he won't last 4 years. brush Feb 2017 #36
+++1 ginnyinWI Feb 2017 #53
the eo in place now also deputizes all local police as immigration authorities Sunlei Feb 2017 #43
I am not underestimating us at all Perseus Feb 2017 #45
no protests didn't do it. the ban as written was against the law. Sunlei Feb 2017 #48
It sounds like you're saying let's just give up. brush Feb 2017 #55
Meant to say "They could" Perseus Feb 2017 #15
Forgot to add that Perseus Feb 2017 #11
You're right IMO. Your posts in this thread are on the money. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #29
+1, so far they've had very few aspects of their agenda stopped uponit7771 Feb 2017 #42
Yep Cosmocat Feb 2017 #22
its as if their only targets are their feet. LOL nt Javaman Feb 2017 #12
Are you tired of winning so much? safeinOhio Feb 2017 #16
Everyone needs to read the article here in DU Perseus Feb 2017 #18
This has helped me greatly Cosmocat Feb 2017 #23
that list is on target. I asked on DU for two breaking news forums. one for headlines with ITs name. Sunlei Feb 2017 #49
Yep Cosmocat Feb 2017 #50
yes her list is on target bdamomma Feb 2017 #35
Their MO is "Divide and conquer." They don't care a rat's ass about bringing the country together. raccoon Feb 2017 #19
45 just brought bdamomma Feb 2017 #37
what unfit & dangerous looks like once elected. Unfortunately once elected, it can do whatever. Sunlei Feb 2017 #20
The Party of Trump Cosmocat Feb 2017 #24
Republicans allow this plague on America. Tabloid TV fiction crap we can just shut off. Sunlei Feb 2017 #38
Trump a distraction wirelessmom Feb 2017 #34
Trump the stalking horse? wirelessmom Feb 2017 #26
But there is an election every two years. kentuck Feb 2017 #28
Paying a price is optional. The GOP has a GREAT propaganda machine. It's unsurpassed. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #31
yes, this was all mentioned a lot soon as republicans allowed trump to be their candiditate. Sunlei Feb 2017 #39
the reason so many "voters" did not notice Skittles Feb 2017 #46
is that all they mentioned, taxes? Skittles Feb 2017 #47
Turning all of the US into Atlantic City! tparrett62 Feb 2017 #27
It hasn't been "Ready! Fire! Aim!" BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #30
I guess Obama made it look easy. ginnyinWI Feb 2017 #52
K&R mcar Feb 2017 #54
Add 'used treasonous means to get into office!!!' triron Feb 2017 #56

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. The name Trump and Failure are
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:32 AM
Feb 2017

one in the same. He is a failed businessman that lives only to feed his ego.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
14. when even your wins are fails. DeVos is loathed by many normal Republicans.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:43 AM
Feb 2017

So many DU'er loath FB but I can use it as an extremely rough gauge.

EVERYONE hates DeVos. Or at least almost everyone.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
8. Trumpers should chant: Show me what incompetence looks like
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:12 AM
Feb 2017

This is what incompetence looks like!

It could be their response to the millions of Americans protesting them

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. You are wrong
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:27 AM
Feb 2017

There is no failure, none...they are doing exactly what they set out to do:
1. Confuse
2. Divide
3. Anger & scare
3.1 The Democratic politicians, although they don't do anything about it
3.2 The 65% who did not vote for him
3.3 The World
4. They got everyone they wanted confirmed (Devo, Sessions, etc.)
5. Have used Trump-The-Decoy very well
6. Insulted and scared the media, the World
7. Lie and make-up stories, massacres, etc. to continue to distract
8. Work non-stop on their tactics.
9. etc.

You need to study history to compare how past dictators proceeded to establish the regime, and you will find out that those you call "incompetents" are following the plan to a "T".

They are not incompetent, just plain evil.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. Yes they cluld, but they are not.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:41 AM
Feb 2017

The same happened in Venezuela, people used to make fun of Chavez, they called him "Bruto" (dumb), and he was not, same with Maduro, they call him "Maburro" (Ma-Donkey), but there he is, doing what he wants and screwing everyone in the process.

Trump sounds like Maduro, dumb as a nail, but he has the backup of intelligent and very evil people, so to underestimate them is a huge mistake, one that many countries in similar situations have made in the past with dire results.

If the democrats don't get some balls, "cojones", they will find themselves in jail from made-up charges, fired, etc...Just evaluate the speed to what Trump and Co have confirmed their people, tried to change laws, etc. Evil people have a common characteristic, they are energetic, they go through walls to get to their goals, and they are not stupid.

The criminal mind works different than that of normal caring people. Not sure if you remember a case in CA where a murderer kidnapped, raped and killed a 12-year-old girl, an hour later they found him having beers at a local pub with friends, his criminal mind did not process the act he had committed earlier. There are different types of criminals, and the ones that have been elected and confirmed have come with a criminal agenda that is set to screw the USA and the World, and its all for personal gain, greed.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE this administration, "It CAN happen here".

brush

(53,778 posts)
17. Open your eyes. trump himself is undeniably incompetent. That's obvious. Some others...
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:55 AM
Feb 2017

in the repug party are ruthless and conniving but the orange one ... nah, he's showing the same incompetence he's shown repeatedly in his many business failures.

You call the Yemen raid decision competence?

Or the Muslim/travel ban roll out and failure in court competent?

Appointing Bannon to be an advisor and then not knowing that one of the EOs Bannon shoved under his nose appointed Bannon himself to the National Security Council — nah, that's not competence. IT'S THE OPPOSITE.

Alienating the heads of state of Mexico, Australia, and France in less than a month in office is also not competence.

Chancellor Angela Merkel having to explain to him the Geneva Conventions is incompetence illustrated.

Get a grip.

The man may study Hitler and visualize himself as the second coming, but no, he's like a pinball being battered from one failure to the next and next in what, 22 days in office?

Ryan and McConnell know that fool is incompetent but they also know they can cram their evil policies through while trump, Bannon, Spicer and Conway, those closest to him and undeniably incompetent also, take the glaring spotlight of scrutiny that their many fuck-ups bring.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
25. They have you looking somewhere else, and that is the plan
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:43 AM
Feb 2017

I am not saying the "Orange-One" is the one making the decisions, or crafting the plan, as I said before, he is not the problem, the real problem are all those behind him, and they will bow to his desires (Yemen fiasco) because again, they don't care, it is just a "means to an end" so loss of life etc is just collateral damage to them.

I have also said that the "Orange-One" is a decoy, and it works because all that people talk about is him, everyone thinks that if they get rid of him all problems are gone, and that is not true, the problems are the people surrounding him, the cabinet they have put together, the fact that repubs have majority on both congress and senate. Don't be fooled by thinking the "orange-one" is the problem, I repeat myself, he is just a decoy. Also, they remove him and who comes along? Mike Pence, evil with a brain...You think that is not the plan? I hope no one relaxes thinking that getting rid of the con will solve everything, it won't, he is not the real problem.

You can list all acts of what you think is incompetence all you want, but have any of them derail their plans? Have they stopped to think and change course? No, they have not, they have people talking about all these things while working hard and fast behind the scenes...

brush

(53,778 posts)
32. Take your own advise. Don't underestimate America and the American people. We are not...
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:14 AM
Feb 2017

letting trump or other repugs install fascism in this country.

It may take going to the streets, even pitched battles in the streets but it ain't gonna happen.

You saw the demonstrations at airports through out the country protesting the travel ban.

Those demonstrations undoubtedly influenced the court and the ban was thrown out.

Again, don't underestimate the American people, of whom only 42% voted for trump.

brush

(53,778 posts)
36. Absolutely. So trump voters make up what, maybe 25%? IMO he won't last 4 years.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:26 AM
Feb 2017

Senior repugs are already discussing how to get him out, either through impeachment or the 25th Amendment.

trump's imagined fascism is not happening here.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
53. +++1
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:59 PM
Feb 2017

I do have faith in the American people, who are much more used to democratic governing than a place like Venezuela. We won't stand for it--not the 75% of us who didn't vote for #45.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
43. the eo in place now also deputizes all local police as immigration authorities
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:35 PM
Feb 2017

meaning they can turn over anyone they wish to ICE.

people will be sent to the new holding facilities on the border (also in eo) so called 'volunteers' (also in eo) help process the detainees. Republicans plan to drag moms, dads , grandparents out of their homes and deport millions. They've already started.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
45. I am not underestimating us at all
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:18 PM
Feb 2017

What I am saying is that we cannot concentrate on the orange-guy because he is not the most dangerous, the fight has to be taken to the rest, the cabinet he put together. Lets say the orange-guy gets impeached and he is out, Pence takes his place, the horrible vocal stupidity and attacks stop, but now you have a more sophisticated evil man, Pence, to continue with the Agenda.

The danger here is to loose focus concentrating on the wrong issue, which is what the orange decoy is there for. Every country that has been subjected to a dictatorship is proud of their people, they all thought it could not happen to them, they all thought they would fight, even on the streets if need be, they marched, used every legal tool at their disposal, and failed.

Please look at these pictures:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+demonstrations+in+caracas+venezuela&biw=1525&bih=669&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwja1NmVxYbSAhXERiYKHSE8CC8QsAQIGQ

These are people marching against the regime, and that is only one country, nothing, absolutely nothing was accomplished with those marches. The fight has to be fought differently, a real opposition with courage has to emerge and talk to the people to open their eyes. Legal maneuvers have to be taken to unbalance the cabinet, make sure the supreme court does not tilt 100% to their side, and many other actions to do what they are trying to do to us, which is confuse them, keep them on their tows, any move they make has to have an opposite reaction, and important to not allow them to think much.

I understand your feeling and, as I said, I am not underestimating the American people, but least of all anyone should underestimate the regime that is working very hard to build and control. If the regime gets hold of the military, the police, and the supreme court to pass any law the regime may need, then it becomes a very steep climb.

Don't think the regime is incompetent, which is the premise of this discussion, it is not, and the more you respect their intelligence, the easier will be to defeat them.

That is my humble opinion.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
48. no protests didn't do it. the ban as written was against the law.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:19 PM
Feb 2017

remember when Obama left he said(NOT exact quote), "I won't speak about what republicans Admin are doing except if its not legal"? He spoke out about that ban. Only the ban nothing else.

really doesn't matter much because the entire eo includes rounding up millions of Americas undocumented people, many who have lived here almost their entire lives. The EO has already authorized-ordered LOCAL police to start to arrest our undocumented neighbors, our kids school friends undocumented parents across America.

brush

(53,778 posts)
55. It sounds like you're saying let's just give up.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:19 PM
Feb 2017

And protests do influence judges. We seen it many times throughout history.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
15. Meant to say "They could"
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:51 AM
Feb 2017

Another problem with convincing ourselves that they are incompetent is that it relaxes people into thinking they are going to make such big mistakes that all will be over by their own doing.

That is not the case, Bannon, Ryan, McConnell, Sessions may be evil, but they are not incompetent or stupid, they pull the strings and they have the perfect decoys to help them get their agenda through, they also have the republicans who cannot think for themselves, they have no real principles and they will vote along party lines, as we have all seen during these confirmations.

The USA and the World is in deeper trouble than ever, the reality of a WW3 is closer than one might think, the changes to the constitution these people have planned will help them get their agenda through without opposition. I hate to say it, but marches and talk will not get rid of these people, the democratic leaders need to start fighting harder, they need to work some of those republicans who do not like what is happening to try to bring them into the Democratic party and thus eliminate the majority from the republicans in both congress and senate, and example is the rep from Hawaii, she was stripped of her title (I forget what it was right now) because she dared to contradicts the emperor, they wanted her to play along and she refused so the threw her under the bus.

I believe those republican in congress and senate who are not happy should be worked hard to convince them to move our side, because if they remain republicans, their party will force their vote and, like Lemmings, they will have to follow along.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. Forgot to add that
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:32 AM
Feb 2017

they have done their job so well that a lot of people think they are incompetent, but they are not.

Answer this question....

Has anyone opposed and succeeded in backtracking Trump so far? Besides the judges rolling the "Muslim Ban", everything else has been a success for them, and with the "Muslim Ban" they will rename it to make it sound patriotic and appealing where the judges will not be able to reverse it again, same with the "Ethics" bill they wanted to get through, which eventually they will.

If these people are not stopped now, you will find that it will be almost impossible to stop them in a year or two.

I don't think people are taking this threat with the seriousness that it deserves, everyone seems to be in denial that their plans are really evil, that these people do not believe in democracy and they are not there to make "America Great", they are there to hold power and enrich themselves.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
29. You're right IMO. Your posts in this thread are on the money.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:57 AM
Feb 2017

Trumpy surrounded himself with a lot of evil, and they're all just going about the mundane work of setting up an authoritarian regime while Trumpy spits out rhetorical fireworks. He's still got Russian assets all around him (It was worse during the campaign.) and he's alright with it.

There's a trillion dollar deal waiting to be closed with Putin, and Trumpy wants a cut.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
22. Yep
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:37 AM
Feb 2017

While 45 is an uniformed buffoon and from the head down they are incompetent dolts with absurdly extreme and fantastical mindsets - the chaos serves a purpose.

To distract, to keep everyone confused and wore out and to keep everyone agitated.

The nonstop bullshit keeps the pods engaged in the "us vs them" mindset, no time to think if it is factual or reality, just have to keep rolling them out there defend it.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
18. Everyone needs to read the article here in DU
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 09:59 AM
Feb 2017
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028621176

MLKs Daughter Just Took Out Trump On Facebook Donalds Going To Flip Out

I feel this is the important part because she understands what this is about, which is not incompetence, I put dashes (---------) on the one I consider to be of highest importance to understand:

Don’t use his name; EVER (45 will do)
------- Remember this is a regime and he’s not acting alone; ---------
Do not argue with those who support him–it doesn’t work;
Focus on his policies, not his orange-ness and mental state;
Keep your message positive; they want the country to be angry and fearful because this is the soil from which their darkest policies will grow;
No more helpless/hopeless talk;
Support artists and the arts;
Be careful not to spread fake news. Check it;
Take care of yourselves; and
Resist!

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
23. This has helped me greatly
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:38 AM
Feb 2017

ALL who have not succumbed to the invasion of the body snatchers should try to get on board with it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
49. that list is on target. I asked on DU for two breaking news forums. one for headlines with ITs name.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 07:27 PM
Feb 2017

America is being spammed & spammed with trump headlines breaking news as part of republicans propaganda. I want to block that entire forum or I'll block the two or three people who post 95% of trump headlines.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
50. Yep
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:37 PM
Feb 2017

The error of the campaign was the deluge of xxx xxx this, xxxxx that... we are full in that sucked hole still.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
35. yes her list is on target
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:25 AM
Feb 2017

and should be remembered especially the part Do not argue with those who support him--it doesn't work.
Support the artists and arts too.

https://www.arts.gov/

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
19. Their MO is "Divide and conquer." They don't care a rat's ass about bringing the country together.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:09 AM
Feb 2017
They said they were going to bring the country together and they have failed.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. what unfit & dangerous looks like once elected. Unfortunately once elected, it can do whatever.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:13 AM
Feb 2017

republicans president, he's still a very good distraction for the republican party. All of them are free to do whatever they want.

Great distraction for the last election, no need to ever discuss the REAL American issues and got most of them re-elected.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. Republicans allow this plague on America. Tabloid TV fiction crap we can just shut off.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 12:02 PM
Feb 2017
once kids are slaughtered like last week in yemen, American moms ripped from their kids & deported-people and entire countries get outraged.

Republicans make America a HUGE target for 'revenge' attacks. Not just from middle eastern countries, Mexico & all the South American countries aren't happy with USA Republican 'policies'.

Even in America more & more people fear the police & many desperate people will fight back.

 

wirelessmom

(2 posts)
34. Trump a distraction
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:19 AM
Feb 2017

This is exactly what we were talking about last night. Dems can scream at and about Trump all they want. In the mean time, Republicans are getting the job done. Trump is the distraction. I didn't think Republicans were this smart.

 

wirelessmom

(2 posts)
26. Trump the stalking horse?
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:43 AM
Feb 2017

A group of friends (real friends, talk face to face) got together last night. This group is politically mixed, even so we've been friends since college. The discussion got pretty heated, Democrats saying Trump was crazy and had to go, and they would see that he was kicked out of the White House. Then one of the Conservatives spoke up and said he didn't care if the Democrats made Trump the stalking horse, by the time they got Trump out, his work would pretty much be done. His Supreme Court nominee would be a sitting judge, his Cabinet heads would be settled in their offices, and Pence would take over for him. That means the things Conservatives voted for would be pretty much accomplished, Democrats wouldn't be able to name a Supreme Court judge, taxes would be lower, Obama care would be gone, etc. I hadn't thought of this scenario before, and I began to wonder if Trump had been put up as a Republican candidate to do exactly what he is doing. Did the Republicans know that the Democrats would have their hair on fire at the prospect of Trump as President, and they'd waste all their time trying to de-legitimize Trump, and miss all the action taking place right under their noses?

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
28. But there is an election every two years.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:56 AM
Feb 2017

And policies and nominees have consequences. If the voters, or their children, are harmed by these policies, Republicans will pay a price at the polls.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
31. Paying a price is optional. The GOP has a GREAT propaganda machine. It's unsurpassed.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:04 AM
Feb 2017

They lied their way into the White House. What better credentials could they ever have earned?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
39. yes, this was all mentioned a lot soon as republicans allowed trump to be their candiditate.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 12:35 PM
Feb 2017

LAST YEAR. Not many 'voters' noticed the con artist party propaganda it worked very well.

Voters notice now but votes over.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
46. the reason so many "voters" did not notice
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:32 PM
Feb 2017

was that anyone with critical thinking skills finds it hard to believe so many people can fall for such utter obvious garbage, how people are SO EASILY CONNED

it BOGGLES OUR MINDS

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
47. is that all they mentioned, taxes?
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:33 PM
Feb 2017

so besides the fact that your friends are greedy assholes, what other actual BENEFITS do they see from that lying, vile piece of SHIT con man?

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
52. I guess Obama made it look easy.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 08:52 PM
Feb 2017

That's because he was truly competent and up for the challenge.

These people in the WH now are starting to realize that it just doesn't flow automatically. Like Kellyanne complaining that they weren't getting due respect. Ah, respect needs to be earned. That smug, haughty attitude they all display ain't gonna get us there.

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