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herding cats

(19,564 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:46 PM Feb 2017

House Democrats toss 2016 playbook

(CNN)House Democrats are scrapping their playbook -- with plans to fire pollsters, hire new staff and ditch the very tools they used to decide where they fight against Republicans -- as they search for a way to win back the House of Representatives in two years.

Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, a New York Democrat who is leading an internal review of the Democrats' campaign strategy, and Rep. Ben Ray Lujan, the chair of House Democrats' campaign arm, told Democrats they need to drop their old way of doing business.

"We should understand the reality of the new battlefield and we should talk about things that matter to ordinary Americans and if we do both, we will write a new chapter," Maloney told CNN Thursday.

Part of that review means dropping some of their basic ideas of what wins them races and dropping some of the strategies that hurt them just a few months ago, when Donald Trump won an upset victory for the White House and Republicans maintained control of both chambers of Congress.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/house-democrats-toss-2016-playbook/index.html

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House Democrats toss 2016 playbook (Original Post) herding cats Feb 2017 OP
Bout time! ... N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2017 #1
Good, because that was a massive fuck-up. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #2
Does this mean they are done with ProudLib72 Feb 2017 #3
Buy all the voting machine manufacturers ymetca Feb 2017 #4
Ya think? Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #5
A "new battlefield" requires a new war strategy. democrank Feb 2017 #6
I think there are two or three third parties out there... kentuck Feb 2017 #7
As long as Jill Stein is around crazycatlady Feb 2017 #8
In that case... kentuck Feb 2017 #10
94 million didn't vote last time n2doc Feb 2017 #18
Winning is a 3 pronged approach crazycatlady Feb 2017 #20
Get your act together and listen to the Marchers, Indivisible groups, and townhall attendees Freethinker65 Feb 2017 #9
8 years of appeasing republicans ... did not work out that well nt msongs Feb 2017 #11
I hope they're tossing out that old powder they've been keeping dry forever, Buns_of_Fire Feb 2017 #12
Look into Comey's role in swinging the election. lpbk2713 Feb 2017 #13
I agree.. kentuck Feb 2017 #16
Great get with the indivisible people and the woman's march workinclasszero Feb 2017 #14
they need a Democratic version of Cambridge Analytics. Advertising on tv is a waste of money KittyWampus Feb 2017 #15
Getting rid of the consultant class and their influence on the DNC would be a start. PatsFan87 Feb 2017 #17
Fight everywhere! Salviati Feb 2017 #19
A lot of good ideas on this thread... Blanks Feb 2017 #21
You want to win, start by ripping their heads off, none of this nambypamby shit. sunonmars Feb 2017 #22

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. Does this mean they are done with
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:56 PM
Feb 2017

"When they go low, we go high" mantra that proved so ineffective? Time for trench warfare.

democrank

(11,094 posts)
6. A "new battlefield" requires a new war strategy.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017

Focusing on "ordinary Americans" is a good place to start.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
7. I think there are two or three third parties out there...
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:08 PM
Feb 2017

That tend to lean more to the Democratic Party than the authoritarian Republican Party. We truly need to get them under our tent, in my opinion.
We need to form coalitions and work together.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
8. As long as Jill Stein is around
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:09 PM
Feb 2017

Greens won't work with us. Jill Stein hates Democrats more than Republicans.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
10. In that case...
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:20 PM
Feb 2017

we could only advise Democrats of her refusal and recommend that they think twice about their support.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
18. 94 million didn't vote last time
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:58 PM
Feb 2017

5 million fewer voted Democratic in 16 than in 08. There is where we need to focus our efforts. Not on the fringe.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
20. Winning is a 3 pronged approach
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 04:45 PM
Feb 2017

First step is expanding the electorate by registering voters. This is very district dependent-- if your district is primarily older, established homeowners, there won't be as much opportunity as say a college town.

Second step is to persuade the voters on the fence (that always vote). They're going to vote, you just need them to vote for your candidate.

Third step is to turn out the sporadic voters. This is done typically in the last months of the campaign.

Freethinker65

(10,018 posts)
9. Get your act together and listen to the Marchers, Indivisible groups, and townhall attendees
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:15 PM
Feb 2017

The Democratic Party can expose the GOP hypocrites locally. The party needs only to figure out how to coalesce around one candidate...the one the locals want to represent them, not necessarily the one the Washington bubble DNC thinks polls better.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
12. I hope they're tossing out that old powder they've been keeping dry forever,
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:23 PM
Feb 2017

and replacing it with some stronger stuff.

Forget about those "strongly-worded letters."

And I know it's against the natural inclination, but perhaps developing a small taste for blood might be more appropriate nowadays.

(Of course, I've long wished they hadn't outlawed caning on the Senate floor, too, so maybe I'm not the ideal person to ask.)

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
13. Look into Comey's role in swinging the election.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:28 PM
Feb 2017


And dig into the very real likelihood of voting irregularities.

Be proactive instead of reactive.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
16. I agree..
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:40 PM
Feb 2017

Also, Democrats should continue to push Trump on investigating our voting system. But, it should be a bi-partisan investigation. We need to know just how much voter suppression there has been?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. Great get with the indivisible people and the woman's march
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:31 PM
Feb 2017

folks and let's hammer the shit out of the fascist republicans!

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
17. Getting rid of the consultant class and their influence on the DNC would be a start.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:57 PM
Feb 2017

Consultants take money away from state parties who desperately need money, organizing, and energy. We need to build from the ground up.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
19. Fight everywhere!
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 03:40 PM
Feb 2017

I wish there was somewhere I could donate that would allocate money towards recruiting and funding challengers in every house race evenly. Even if we lose, it helps to get the message out there and it may make it more competitive in the future.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
21. A lot of good ideas on this thread...
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:31 PM
Feb 2017

But I didn't see the sure fire method of winning "flowers, chocolates, promises you don't intend to keep".

We should go with what works.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
22. You want to win, start by ripping their heads off, none of this nambypamby shit.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 06:35 PM
Feb 2017

They bring a knife, you put them in a morgue.

Stop being wimpy weasels and stop worrying about what people are going to say.

You can see how this went, the GOP is playing nasty and getting away with it, about time you started doing the same.

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