tRump said he embraced Abe when they met this morning.

[trof]

I worked for a Japanese corporation for 10 years and they are NOT touchy feely.
I got to be close friends with a few of my co-workers and I would never even THINK of giving them a hug.

I'm sure Abe is in a constant state of cringe anytime he's around tRump.

[Phoenix61]

1. That's always been my understanding

Very affectionate with family but more, realistic I think, about the difference between an acquaintance and a friend. Is that accurate?

[trof]

3. Yes

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. If you are researching a visit to Japan, that's one of the items

that often turns up on lists of things not to do; hugging, even by close friends, is just not done. Other things not to do that Trump does all the time are talking about yourself and showing off, and failing to apologize, even when you weren't wrong in the first place. https://learnjapanesepod.com/the-top-10-japanese-etiquette-mistakes/ Trump is pretty rude in one way or another according to the customs of all countries, but I imagine he's especially offensive to the very courteous Japanese.

[OriginalGeek]

4. lol, I thought you meant Lincoln

thought maybe Frederick Douglass and Lincoln were having a sit down with trumples

[former9thward]

5. It happens.

Obama at Hiroshima gathering.





Abe is getting hugged here and does not seem bothered.
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?
src=&w=1484

[Maru Kitteh]

7. What motivates you to continuously and relentlessly bash Obama on Democratic Underground?

It seems a behavior more suited to other arenas, and I have to ask why you do it here. It's unseemly and I think to the majority here, quite unwelcome.

[former9thward]

9. I am not bashing Obama.

He did nothing wrong. If you think he did something wrong then you are bashing him and that is quite unwelcome.

[bettyellen]

8. Funny how that pic you posted leaves out the article calling that aggressive and uncomfortable....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/06/the-impressively-awkward-hugs-and-handshakes-of-indias-narendra-modi/?client=safari


Interesting omission!

[former9thward]

10. Cut and paste.

Interesting omission that you didn't!

[bettyellen]

11. You saw a link to an article that slammed that very hug as inappropriate and pasted it here

As "proof" the hug was normal. BUSTED!!

Your link was taken from WaPo but somehow got separated from the article that says the opposite of what you were trying to say.

How convenient!

[former9thward]

12. You are BUSTED!!

I told you to cut and paste and you can't. The article accompanying the picture had NO such language or implication. BUSTED!

[bettyellen]

15. You told me to do something and I declined to. The link is sufficient and that's how shit works-

You don't actually get to give orders to anyone here. That's not how this works.

We notice you normalizing Trump and trashing Obama.

[JI7]

16. that's always what the poster does

Always defending republicans .

[Maru Kitteh]

37. And expects that we will not notice that he is constantly doing so.

SAD.

[former9thward]

18. What did Obama do that is wrong?

He did nothing wrong. Why are you trashing Obama? You won't cut and paste because you made it up.

[bettyellen]

20. YOU brought Obama into the discussion, not I - it's an Indian PM hugging the Japanese one..

I never brought up anything negative about Obama but it seems like you tried to above and the link failed.

Really seems to bother you that people think Trump is a complete oaf.

[former9thward]

23. The pictures prove touching/hugging is not a problem.

Despite what the internet cultural experts told us.

[bettyellen]

26. LOL. that's why you left out the article that went with the pic- because it says

It's oft commented what a faux pas and how uncomfortable he makes most world leaders. The pic stripped of all context is very deceptive. Interesting how hard you're working to normalize trump- pretending anyone used he word forbidden? So embarrassed for you.

[former9thward]

30. So embarrassed for you.

Your refuse to back up your posts with a cut and paste. You made it up and everyone knows it.

[JI7]

36. fuck Trump

[former9thward]

38. He is not my sexual preference.

But if he is yours, go for it.

[JI7]

39. fuck trump

[Maru Kitteh]

41. Do you think this board trusts someone like you who bashed Obama over BettyEllen?

Think again.

Or don't. Whatever feels more natural.

[former9thward]

64. She refused to back up her false claim.

I don't care who you "trust". Please cut and paste where I "bashed" Obama. I won't hold my breath.

[tblue37]

60. Not made up:

snip

Yet, as it often is with Modi, much of the public attention will probably be placed on something else entirely: the Indian prime minister's impressively awkward physicality.

SNIP

Modi has become well-known for his vigorous hugs and handshakes with other world leaders, displaying a tactile familiarity that often seems to take his counterparts by surprise. The resulting pictures can often be awkward, subsequently making headlines all over the world.

SNIP

[former9thward]

61. This whole thing is about hugging and Japanese culture.

It has nothing to do with PM Modi or India. The poster that replied to me tried their best to imply that I had left out language concerning the Japanese PM. That was made up BS which is why they never cut and paste anything. Try again.

[JI7]

13. that's not trump. it's the Indian pm who he has a good relationship with

[bettyellen]

17. That pic is in an article about how that PM often startles other leaders with an excess of affection

Or enthusiasm. There's a hilarious pic of Prince Williams hand after he let go of it- and left strong impressions from squeezing. LOL. That pic is from a story that says the opposite of what the poster claims.

Shocking!

[JI7]

21. yeah that pm is always doing that. many articles on it

[former9thward]

22. Yeah, I think we all know its not Trump.

But we were told by all sorts of internet Japanese cultural experts that touching is forbidden in Japan. PM Abe seems very happy. So you are saying the touching/hugging rule that the internet experts told us about does not apply if someone has a "good relationship" with the other person? Who made that exception?

Why have no MSM outlets that hate Trump, such as the NYT and Washington Post, mentioned this? Do they not know the rule?

[bettyellen]

24. Link to anyone using the word "forbidden"? Yeah I thought so....

Total bullshit.

[JI7]

25. why so obsessed with defending trump ?

[former9thward]

27. I don't like when people pretend to know other people's culture.

If Trump does anything, bad. If Obama does the exact same thing, good. I like honesty. Some don't.

[JI7]

28. it looks more like you don't like criticism of trump

[former9thward]

31. Looks to me you don't like it when internet "experts" on foreign culture are proved wrong.

[JI7]

33. Trump sucks

[former9thward]

34. So relevant to this discussion....

[JI7]

35. yes it is and your pathetic attempt to defend him everytime

[Generic Other]

29. You are the one who seems to know very little about the Japanese

The posters here are correct asserting that hugging makes Japanese uncomfortable. They are polite though and tolerate what they find cringeworthy.

Abe gave his assistant a look that clearly conveyed his belief that Trump is one rice ball short of a sushi roll.

Link to tweet

[former9thward]

32. BS and I posted the pictures to prove it.

[Grassy Knoll]

40. But Did You Die?

[Generic Other]

44. I happen to be Japanese and I call BS on your BS

Me and about 129 million others of Japanese descent.

[Generic Other]

45. Oh and...

I don't like when people pretend to know other people's culture.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028626654#post27

[former9thward]

46. Do you speak for PM Abe?

[Generic Other]

48. I think Abe's reaction to the clown's behavior speaks for itself

This is a pointless conversation. If you need a point, you can try falling on a samurai sword.

[former9thward]

49. No, I will leave that to you since its your culture.

You need to come down to where I went to school, Arizona State, where we have about 1000 Japanese students at any given time. I don't wish to alarm you but they shake hands and even hug -- and yes they initiate it. They clearly have been infected by bad, bad, bad American culture and need someone like you to set them straight.

[Generic Other]

50. I am sure Japanese have spontaneously hugged you many a time

followed by this:

[former9thward]

52. Well you seem to be familar with the product.

I'll take your word.

[trof]

47. Thank you.

[Doremus]

55. "MSM outlets that hate Trump..." Seriously? nt

[former9thward]

57. I suppose you don't read either one.

[hlthe2b]

6. Can you imagine what Queen Elizabeth will do if he tries that on his trip to G. Britain?

[HassleCat]

53. Remember that guy who went around hugging everyone?

He had an Italian name, but I can't pull it out of the feeble old brain right now. He went in for a hug on the queen, but they were ready for him. Maybe they'll do the same to Trump.

[smirkymonkey]

14. Yes, he gave him a great, big Russian bear hug!

The Yuuugest bear hug!

[sarcasmo]

19. National Embarrassment.

[hatrack]

42. They're from Japan, dumbfuck. They DON'T FUCKING HUG!!!!

Jesus Christ, you don't need to be Ruth Benedict to figure that out.

Unbelievable. Just fucking unbelievable.

[HassleCat]

51. Definitely. I hug my sister in law.

But I cannot imagine hugging a Japanese person I didn't know quiye well.

[MFM008]

54. he knows nothing about different

cultures and customs and doesn't care to learn.

[TrekLuver]

56. He hugged him not once but twice. I'm sure he CANNOT wait for this trip to be ova.

[tblue37]

58. He also kissed the top of Abe's head! nt

[red dog 1]

59. K&R

[trof]

62. Arigato

[red dog 1]

63. You're welcome?